Petition to help new grads get experience - page 7
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In light of the struggles that new grads are having securing a job, this petition may be of interest to many of you. allnurses.com has nothing to do with this petition. We are not endorsing it at all. We are just sharing... Read More
- 2Jan 12, '13 by XmasShopperRNA medical resident's salary is paid via Federal money for the sole purpose of providing hands-on, clinical experience and continued education for medical school graduates. That's the objective of any medical residency program. So while CMS may allocate XX amount of dollars for nursing care provided, the amount is beyond laughable, and certainly not enough to constitute a "salary". In addition, there are no financial incentives or designated monies paid by Medicare or other Federal agencies to fund any nursing residency programs.
Without Medicare-funded medical residencies, there would be no incentive for hospitals to employ and fund "newbie" doctors and their novice educations. Medicare foots residents' salaries because it is much cheaper to pay a first year resident's salary that equates to something like $8 an hour as opposed to the much more significant salaries that attendings or fellows receive.
Bottom line is, if there were no nurses, doctors wouldn't be able to do their job, and vice versa. Patient care already suffers 2/2 to inadequate nursing staffing with resulting unsafe nurse to pt ratios. Ratios that are direct resultants of hospital and corporate greediness along with a healthcare and political culture that doesn't place adequate importance and funding upon education AND training of its nursing workforce. At least not as much emphasis as is placed upon medical training.
Personally, what I think could equate to a possible solution for the difficulties that many new graduate nurses continue to face in locating employment is whatever money CMS makes payable for nursing care be solely designated for nursing salaries. Regardless of how many patients a medical resident cares for, their salary is predetermined and guaranteed once they land that residency. While the salaries aren't much to write home about, the provider is gaining valuable clinical experience that will make them marketable in the future. With invested time and expanding clinical competencies, the residents' salaries increase yearly. I don't see why those same principles cannot be applied to the training of new graduate and less-experienced nurses.
- 2Jan 12, '13 by LadyFree28Quote from RNdynamicGood point...Nurses ARE vital...I think that there should be more nurse residency programs, especially in LTC care, LTAC as well, caring for our nations veterans, the VA...How about we start a petition on that???
Why not? Enormous grants are given to healthcare facilities for physician residency programs. Why not offer the same to nurse residency programs? Are nurses not as vital to this country's healthcare system as physicians?
- 0I had to laugh at this response. One of our PCA 's graduated from RN school AND typed her resume on the hospital computer. I had to look at it twice because it in NO way described her. She had SUCH an highly inflated opinion of herself. Even myself that is not one to participate in gossip knew that she was thought of very poorly. Never smiled and was the laziest person./ So glad she got a job on another floor.
Now there are MANY highly qualified and persons suitable as a new grad for the few new jobs that come open. However they need to get their foot in the door and showcase what they are all about so they can land a job immediately after school!
- 0How long have you been out of school> Just curious..and are you in a rural or urban area>? What kind of jobs have you applied for ? Would you work anywhere but an acute care hospital.
The job market was similiar when I graduated from nursing school. Guess what I could not move back home..no jobs..so I did move back AFTER a year experience..took a $4 cut in pay. Things are not always fair...but for one we have too many nursing schools pumping out inferior new grads.(not saying you are _ but alot are NOT prepared to work in an acute care setting and guess what hospitals know that.This is why they bank their money on BSN grads....and young healthy nurses that they can see investing alot of money in.
- 0Jan 12, '13 by msn10You guys are nuts! I don't see any problem with asking the government to assist in this matter. First of all, the number of MDs produced in residency is tightly regulated and results in an adequate number of jobs per graduates. Here, we have nurses investing in their education only to come out of school and be told that a costly residency is not in their future. The cycle continues when they prematurely apply to grad school or leave the profession all together eventually leading to another boom bust cycle. Sadly, some of these people have been seduced into shady programs that leave them with no viable job options even if they have passed NCLEX.
I also agree with Xmas ShoppingRN and expect nurse residents to get a much lower wage because education is not cheap.
- 0I am lost here...are these DNP programs????I know the VA got innovative and formed their "own agency" so you can travel around..one state license. I have had the fleeting thought to go there..I did agency work at a facility...lots of people that are there because of the comfortable rut and great benefits but still alot of good people working there...Many former vets themselves!
- 2Jan 12, '13 by canigraduateQuote from JZ_RNIf you are going to school, use the school's internet.You ever stop to think maybe some people don't have internet access when they're brand new college students, struggling to pay bills on their own and pay tuition? I know I didn't.
Use the local library's internet. Shoot, borrow a friend's laptop and use the free McDonalds/Starbucks/Panera WiFi.
In this day and age, if you don't have internet access, it's because you don't want it and are actively avoiding it.Last edit by sirI on Jan 13, '13 : Reason: member request
- 0Jan 12, '13 by msn10I am lost here...are these DNP programs????I know the VA got innovative and formed their "own agency" so you can travel around..one state license.
- 0Jan 12, '13 by Tree5981When I graduated from nursing school I got an internship in oncology that was funded through a government grant. I think there should be more programs like this out there for nurses. It is a great learning environment,, and got certified in chemo. It gave me the tools I needed to be a better nurse. Obviously, our government has an enormous amount of debt, but hopefully in the future there can more internships for new nurses.