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- Aug 31, '11 by GrnTea"keep in mind that the pilgrims weren't team players. the nazis were."
godwin aside, as a bona fide pilgrim descendent who lives within half an hour's drive of the ancestral homeland and its churchyards where they rest up to my grandparents and father, i can tell you that the pilgrims, while they didn't want to play ball with the english monarchy of their day, were definitely not free spirits, and definitely did not encourage, umm, creativity in religious or social expression. they were not here for religious liberty, except their own. i'm not knocking them, they did what they had to do, and i am in awe of how they made a life here whenever the winter rolls in, but they don't have anything to do with this discussion.
- Aug 31, '11 by heronQuote from caroladybelleIt may follow Godwin's Law, but in this case it's legit ... and that's not trivializng the Holocaust in any way.Only a post or two in and someone kicks in the Godwin's law effect.
I believe that there is more than a bit of difference between Nazi genocide and a sympathy strike. I suspect that the families of the 9 million murdered would agree.
The companies looking to cut costs on the backs of their workers depend on us having the attitude "I've got mine ... you're on your own". It's called divide and conquer.
I know that my bargaining unit, years ago, was only allowed to represent RNs. LPNs, CNA's and dietary workers and housekeepers were in a different union. Our contract ran out just before election day (I worked in a state hospital) and theirs expired just after. Funny how it happened that in election years, our contract sailed through, no problem. Meanwhile, magically, money got so tight - just 2 months later - that they just HAD to have give-backs. These were men and women who worked beside me every day, without whom I couldn't do my job. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in a mirror if I had crossed their picket lines.
Having said that, the issue is not black and white ... the fact that the OP doesn't trust the information coming from her union speaks volumes about the politics of the situation. There's a balance that needs to be maintained between self-interest and support for co-workers and none of us can make that decision for the OP.
My only suggestion is, first, to read your own contract to see if the issue is addressed there. Secondly, double check the union's info with the state or federal labor board. The biggest question is whether workers striking in sympathy have the same protections against retaliation as the workers directly involved. Finally, there's a judgement call balancing your own financial responsibilities and employment against the politics of angering management, who will find a way to get back at you if at all possible.Last edit by heron on Aug 31, '11
- Aug 31, '11 by xtxrnQuote from caroladybelleonly a post or two in and someone kicks in the godwin's law effect.
i believe that there is more than a bit of difference between nazi genocide and a sympathy strike. i suspect that the families of the 9 million murdered would agree.
- Aug 31, '11 by tyvinWell ... I've always been a member of a union. I would go to work if scheduled and strike with them if off. In the end you need to cover your own back. The unions are getting a bad rap right now and soon, when there are none, we shall all grieve together in the bread lines ... but at least we'll be together.
- Aug 31, '11 by OCNRN63Quote from dthfytrAnd look how the Nazis turned out in the end. Or did WWII end differently from what I was taught?Those scheduled for work should work, the others can picket with the other union. The problem with organisations is they put their own survival ahead of that of thier members.
Keep in mind that The Pilgrims weren't team players. The Nazis were.
I'm not sure I understand your example.
OP, you're east of the rock and west of the hard place. I'm not sure what I would do.
- Aug 31, '11 by dthfytrMy Pilgrim/Nazi reference was to encourage individual thought. Overall I'm pro-union, but have been talked to by union reps for doing a job too well, making it difficult for other dues paying union members. The OP was looking for suggestion and opinions and I gave him the best I could offer. Had no intention of offending anybody.