Survey: Would you pay Apollo $43,000 or Ethel Bauer $27,000 or do you have any ideas

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Let's face it. Everyone is this group wants to be a nurse. I am one of them. I want to be a nurse so bad that I can taste it. Heres the problem I am facing just like you. If I go the traditional way, its going to take a lot of time just to do the prereqs. Then when you apply to the RN program, you have another issue. You probably have hundreds of other people applying thus your chances of getting in become silm. I know of a student who completed all the prereqs, gpa 3.8 and still has been passed over 3 times. To get to the topic, would u pay Apollo $43,000, Ethel Bauer $27,000, or would you consider another route.:uhoh3:

yeah, that occured to me after i typed that response. so, are you in fact already on the waiting list for mccd or have you applied yet? it seems you are right there. if you are this close why would you go to ebsn, why not just apply right to asu or grand canyon? am i misunderstanding? i have all the pre-req's minus like, 3, still left to finish so im nowhere near where you are.

sassie,

i have the dreaded time stamp now for the community colleges. i am sure i am number 1699 out of 1700 to be placed for the next 500 spring 08 spots. :lol2:

you really have to keep a sense of humor with those numbers.

i am taking the extra prereqs for asu and grand canyon. grand canyon is the same amount of time and money as eb but with the outcome of a bsn instead. i can apply in spring 08 for fall 08 admittance and fall 08 for spring 09 admittance at grand canyon. well of course if they don't have a wait list by then i'll be able to start. asu has so many different programs and they are trying to add more but it is extremely competitive. so you know the drill, i'm continuing my education until i get into a nursing program of my choice.

obsessing once again.:uhoh3:

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Since your putting all that time and effort into schooling, why go the ADN route, go to Grand Canyons fast track program, little to no waite. Or one of the Universities little to no waite. Your talking about waite time on a ADN list when in reality you could have your BSN in half the time and spend the same amount of money and come out ahead of the came as far as education goes. Just a thought

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since your putting all that time and effort into schooling, why go the adn route, go to grand canyons fast track program, little to no waite. or one of the universities little to no waite. your talking about waite time on a adn list when in reality you could have your bsn in half the time and spend the same amount of money and come out ahead of the came as far as education goes. just a thought

yes that is what i am aspiring is more than likely grand canyon, asu is very competitive but i will try. i am keeping all of my options open since my goal is to get a graduate degree after my rn.

have a great day.

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Bottom Line: Time is Money.

Think of it this way, the average new nurse grad makes $50k a year. If you are on a 1 1/2 year wait list, thats $75k of nurse income you are losing. So if you pay Apollo's block 3 tuition (going in with your CC pre-req's) its $28K. Thats $23K more than MCCD, but you are 1 1/2 ahead, so you made $52k in your pocket. You have to make the choice that works for you. I am pursuing the Banner Fellow, 16 mos of advanced study, and you can still get financial aide to live on while in school, and you skip to the front of the line. Keep in mind with any of these nursing programs (except the weekend day, and Rio's online program), you are advised against working.

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Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.

I would not. I would do what I am doing instead. I'm on the waitlist for MCCCD, and while I'm waiting I'm completing BSN pre-reqs and liberal arts requirements. By the time I'm done with the BSN pre-reqs, I'll be applying to BSNs and it'll roughly be the time I should be placed in an ADN program.

Also, I'm not really persuaded by the lost RN salary argument. Many of us are working already for decent earnings (not zero income) and have low personal overhead.

It is a matter of degrees about the tuition choice, though. For example, I would do what FutureRnJess did and pay three times the community college tuition to a private program. But 30-40k? Not me.

Of course, different strokes for different folks. Good luck with what you decide!

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Specializes in cardiac/education.

Just wanted to say Good Luck and Best Wishes to all of you waiting to get in or struggling to find a way to get in. It was difficult when I applied, but not THAT difficult. I only paid roughly 5 grand for my community college education and for that....I am thankful!! Especially since I am not working as a nurse right now, lol:lol2:

Anywayz, keep ur chins up!;)

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Just wanted to say Good Luck and Best Wishes to all of you waiting to get in or struggling to find a way to get in. It was difficult when I applied, but not THAT difficult. I only paid roughly 5 grand for my community college education and for that....I am thankful!! Especially since I am not working as a nurse right now, lol:lol2:

Anywayz, keep ur chins up!;)

If you don't mind me asking....why aren't you working as a nurse right now??

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I would not pay Apollo 43k but I would do the 27k EB program. their prereqs are Eng, Chem, Med Term, Alg and you have to be a CNA. The program is 18 months. If I can be done that quickly compared to the 5 yrs or so it would take me to go the CC route, prereqs plus wait time plus 2 yr program....

I have been to the Apollo info session. same prereqs but their program would cost me 42k. Does anyone know why Apollo charges so much more for the same program? Is it because of the 18k tuition reimbursement they offer if you work for one of their hospitals for 3 yrs? I would not tie myself down like that.

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Specializes in Pediatric ICU.
I would not. I would do what I am doing instead. I'm on the waitlist for MCCCD, and while I'm waiting I'm completing BSN pre-reqs and liberal arts requirements. By the time I'm done with the BSN pre-reqs, I'll be applying to BSNs and it'll roughly be the time I should be placed in an ADN program.

Also, I'm not really persuaded by the lost RN salary argument. Many of us are working already for decent earnings (not zero income) and have low personal overhead.

It is a matter of degrees about the tuition choice, though. For example, I would do what FutureRnJess did and pay three times the community college tuition to a private program. But 30-40k? Not me.

Of course, different strokes for different folks. Good luck with what you decide!

I agree with multicollinearity. I, too, would not pay that much to get into those programs. I'd rather work on my BSN classes while waiting and work a job in the field to get experience. I totally understand the frustration you all feel about the wait. It seems like an eternity when you are waiting to get started. However, the payment that you make for your education is still money spent...any way you cut it. Just my opinion.

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Bottom Line: Time is Money.

Keep in mind with any of these nursing programs (except the weekend day, and Rio's online program), you are advised against working.

Hate to tell you this, but even the weekend day program at GCC (which I'm in) advises against working. They tell you it's FRI/Sat, but neglect to mention that you need lab hours, you have to pick patients on Thursdays, you have your testing on Sundays, so how is this a two day program(I'm still trying to figure that one out)?? They also state that you'll spend 60 hours a week studying (this is a little high), and if you do the math, with school "two" days a week, and the other five for studying, that's studying 12 hours a day!!! Now of course, this is what they tell you, and it's not really a reality, but to those who think they can still work full-time and do the 'weekend' program, well let's just say we've lost over half of our class since we started and most of those were trying to work full-time.

About the OP. I know how hard it is to wait to get into a nursing school but I would really caution those taking alternative routes. Clinicals are a huge part of schooling and getting the right experience is really important. The MCC, ASU and GCU schools have had slots scheduled for years at all of the hospitals where you can get that experience. What's left are the hospitals that these schools don't want, and that's where the new schools are going, IYKWIM. Just something to think about.

If you are on a waiting list you can always try and get a job as a HUS at a hospital to keep yourself familiar with the hospital setting. A lot of the hospitals in the area have fellowships where you can get priority placing in a slot at an MCC. Or take classes that you'll need for an advanced degree or that will make you more marketable (Spanish) while you're waiting. If you use the time instead of wasting it, you'll be that much more ahead of the curve when you finally get placed. JMHO.

Good luck to everybody,

Keli

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I graduated a long time ago--1984.I attended an ADN program in Iowa while my husband was studying at Palmer. I borrowed about $3000 and that covered all of it. There was still one hospital based (diploma) nursing program in town,too.

I was taught by WONDERFUL, EXPERIENCED RN's ,some from the military, none of them had master's degrees--just lots and lots of practical experience.

My school graduated good nurses, ready to give good care and we all got good jobs. Some of us (ME) even went on to become Nurse Practitioners!

I don't know WHAT HAPPENED to Nursing Education. IF THERE IS A NURSING SHORTAGE WHY CAN'T EXPERIENCED NURSES TEACH OTHER NURSES? AND stop this silly 4 year waiting period????

A saint would lose motivation after that long!!!!!

WHY can't we return nursing to the bedside, to HOSPITAL SCHOOLS?

Not every nurse cares to become an administrator, manager or an advanced practitioner. some want to work in a hospital and give good care.

This can be taught.By other experienced nurses. In hospitals.

I suppose in these times you have to bite the bullet and get on some awful YEARS -LONG WAITING LIST! And pay a fortune.It's a shame.

I am all for returning nursing to HOSPITAL BASED PROGRAMS where you are AT THE BEDSIDE in WEEK TWO of your training.

It was the co-opting of NURSING PROGRAMS into universities that has caused this mess.It started with the Community colleges , first.

In fact, since Universities are now teach nursing, it is possible to stay in school and become an ADVANCED PRACTICE NURSE (an NP) with NO EXPERIENCE AS A REGULAR RN.

When I went into my advanced program you had to have years EXPERIENCE FIRST, THEN you became an NP.

Let's go back to hospital based programs, taught by experienced nurses.

radical idea??

In the meantime, good luck, pay what you must and GET INTO TRAINING--DON'T WAIT! --nursing is a great career, you'll make your money back. We NEED GOOD NURSES.

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