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Your Thoughts on COVID-19 Vaccine

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Specializes in Corrections, Dementia/Alzheimer's. Has 3 years experience.

Marisette, BSN, RN

Specializes in Registered Nurse. Has 28 years experience.

I've believe the virus is mutating very slowly and a vaccine may ultimately stop the spread of covid 19. I'm not even going to guess as to which one will be most effective and safe. However, I believe a vaccine is the only thing that will get the economy back on track, and help us regain our freedom to move about without fear or concern.

I can tell you of some experiences in the work place by non-medical people I have encountered. The employer does temperature checks. When someone shows an abnormal temperature, they are asked to get tested. When covid 19 test results return, if that employee is positive, others in the company are asked to test and isolate. Companies shut down for a week or two for cleaning and employee quaranteen. How sustainable is this "new normal"?

Yes, I am concerned about the safety or any approved vaccine. I will do my research, and opt for the "safest" option, but I will line up to get that vaccine. As an older adult, vaccines, are probably safer than getting covid.

Trampledunderfoot, LPN

Specializes in Corrections, Dementia/Alzheimer's. Has 3 years experience.

How long do you think it will take after a vaccine comes out before we are able to know if it is truly safe?

It’s difficult to find articles regarding development of vaccines.

I found this article a few months ago that I bookmarked. Goes over the steps and likelihood of vaccines being developed.

I have since read one or two articles that are hopeful of developing a vaccine Much sooner though a few safety steps would Be shortened or skipped.

From past experience vaccines took 10 years or more if a vaccine could be developed. Time will tell.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/30/opinion/coronavirus-covid-vaccine.html?fbclid=IwAR0rXHoTm8I-bREVC65dQxGuUyDlbepPf8Rx2o4eWKEep5GDK8KttN7Y3EQ

Trampledunderfoot, LPN

Specializes in Corrections, Dementia/Alzheimer's. Has 3 years experience.

That is a good article, askater112.

I was young during H1N1, but they came out with a safe vaccine for it pretty quickly, in a year and a half, right? Was this d/t how it was just another flu strain?

Marisette, BSN, RN

Specializes in Registered Nurse. Has 28 years experience.

Yes, interesting article about vaccines. One good thing is that many people with covid 19 recover and produce antibodies . Hopefully this knowledge will help vaccine research move along. Moreover, it's likely that having antibodies provides protection, although we don't know for how long yet.

Vaccine causing enhancement of the virus is definitely a concern. Hopefully, they will test many thousands of volunteers prior to releasing to the public. The cost of this virus to society is definitely an incentive for a vaccine or effective treatments to become a reality. Social distancing, limiting public accupancy to establishments, and closure of places related to a covid hot spot is very expensive. Nothing like $$$ to move things along.

China has recently experienced a resurgence of cases although it appeared they had a good handle on mandatory contact tracing. I don't know how they can successfully do social distancing in some of China's crowded cities. Will they be successful in controling the spread of covid 19 by controlling human behavior ? Time will tell if this virus will be eliminated through effective treatments, a vaccine or ultimately herd immunity at the cost of millions of lives.

Kitiger, RN

Specializes in Private Duty Pediatrics. Has 42 years experience.

19 hours ago, Trampledunderfoot said:

That is a good article, askater112.

I was young during H1N1, but they came out with a safe vaccine for it pretty quickly, in a year and a half, right? Was this d/t how it was just another flu strain?

The H1N1 vaccine was not entirely safe, and the vaccination program was halted.

https://www.CDC.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pandemic-timeline-1930-and-beyond.htm

"1970s

An H1N1 (swine flu) outbreak among recruits at Fort Dix leads to a vaccination program to prevent a pandemic. Within 10 months, roughly 25% of the US population is vaccinated (48 million people), about twice the level needed to provide coverage for the at-risk population. Cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a neurologic condition that in rare instances has been associated with vaccination, among vaccine recipients appeared to be in excess of what was expected, so officials determine the vaccination program should be halted. 1981: CDC begins collecting reports of influenza outbreaks from state and territorial epidemiologists."

Trampledunderfoot, LPN

Specializes in Corrections, Dementia/Alzheimer's. Has 3 years experience.

On 6/19/2020 at 7:42 PM, Kitiger said:

he H1N1 vaccine was not entirely safe, and the vaccination program was halted.

https://www.CDC.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pandemic-timeline-1930-and-beyond.htm

"1970s

An H1N1 (swine flu) outbreak among recruits at Fort Dix leads to a vaccination program to prevent a pandemic. Within 10 months, roughly 25% of the US population is vaccinated (48 million people), about twice the level needed to provide coverage for the at-risk population. Cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a neurologic condition that in rare instances has been associated with vaccination, among vaccine recipients appeared to be in excess of what was expected, so officials determine the vaccination program should be halted. 1981: CDC begins collecting reports of influenza outbreaks from state and territorial epidemiologists."

Right, I forget that 2009 wasn't the first H1N1 outbreak (guess my age is showing 😳).

So they were well on their way for a vaccine before 2009, and it is not comparable to the COVID-19 timeline at all. Forgive my stupidity, and please don't alert the news.

You all come up with good articles, I wish I had more time to read up and do research (why I don't get on this site as often as I'd like😢).

macawake, MSN

Has 13 years experience.

On 6/18/2020 at 5:42 PM, Trampledunderfoot said:

What are y'all's thoughts on the many COVID-19 vaccines being tested?

Safe vs unsafe.

Which one do you think will be most effective?

Do you think COVID-19 will mutate faster than the vaccines could be made?

Any other thoughts.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200610/covid-19-latest-updates

The safe vs unsafe queastion is why we have several phases of drug trials. (Well safety and efficacy). Generally speaking I’m very pro-vaccine and the world desperately needs one for SARS-CoV-2.

I don’t think that the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 will mutate faster than vaccines can be made.

Once a vaccine has successfully passed through the trial phases and been approved I will in all likelihood take it. The only caveat is that the research process is transparent and that I don’t suspect that corners have been cut and prestige of ”being first” has been a major factor.

Let’s just say that I won’t be standing first in line for this one until it’s been properly evaluated.


https://www.dw.com/en/russia-registers-worlds-first-coronavirus-vaccine-putin-announces/a-54524385

CrunchRN, ADN, RN

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health. Has 25 years experience.

Interesting news about the vaccine in Russia this morning. Of course, I do not believe "transparency" is anything we can count on from them unfortunately.

Kitiger, RN

Specializes in Private Duty Pediatrics. Has 42 years experience.

1 hour ago, macawake said:

The safe vs unsafe queastion is why we have several phases of drug trials. (Well safety and efficacy). Generally speaking I’m very pro-vaccine and the world desperately needs one for SARS-CoV-2.

I don’t think that the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 will mutate faster than vaccines can be made.

Once a vaccine has successfully passed through the trial phases and been approved I will in all likelihood take it. The only caveat is that the research process is transparent and that I don’t suspect that corners have been cut and prestige of ”being first” has been a major factor.

Let’s just say that I won’t be standing first in line for this one until it’s been properly evaluated.


https://www.dw.com/en/russia-registers-worlds-first-coronavirus-vaccine-putin-announces/a-54524385

I agree with macawake. Let's get the vaccines properly evaluated.

"Scientists in Russia and abroad have questioned Moscow's decision to register the vaccine before Phase 3 trials that normally last for months and involve thousands of people, but Putin emphasized that the vaccine underwent the necessary trials and that vaccination will be voluntary."

Enough said.

macawake, MSN

Has 13 years experience.

59 minutes ago, CrunchRN said:

Interesting news about the vaccine in Russia this morning. Of course, I do not believe "transparency" is anything we can count on from them unfortunately.

Not exactly what they’re famous for, is it?

Oddly enough, I’m not massively reassured by Putin claiming that one of his daughters has taken it and is doing fine... I’d prefer a proper phase 3 and the aforementioned transparency 👍🏻

Edited by macawake