Published Nov 21, 2015
klone, MSN, RN
14,856 Posts
Was in a different area of nursing? Managers, do you think you can be an effective leader if your "in the trench" knowledge for that particularly area of nursing is limited?
NurseStorm, BSN, RN
153 Posts
Depends how involved they are. When our new manager came, she started doing some things that our previous manager never did, and these things made us really respect her very quickly. This included: frequently coming out to the floor and talking to staff about what patients were currently on the unit, were there any patients we were extra concerned about at this time? etc. Then later on in the shift she would come back around and ask how that patient was doing, or ask general questions about the patients from the mini "report" she got earlier. This meant a lot to us as it showed she really cared and was being aware of the units on the floor. She also offered to call doctors, etc if needed during crises with patients.
Another thing she did was started sending weekly emails, in the emails she would write about any changes/updates (such as.. we are working with the lab to ensure more prompt blood draws for stat blood glucose in newborns. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and fill out an incident report if it is excessive. Jane Doe has been awarded Emily's 100% temp, congratulations Jane! Next staff meeting November 22. ETC.) She would also usually have something positive to say, which always was nice, such as "we had some letters come in this week of patients extremely happy with their care on our unit. Thanks to everyone for working so hard!" or "I know this week has been very crazy with all the snow storms. Thank you so much to all the staff for their dedication, it truly does not go unnoticed and means so much." She also brought in bags of food/treats and box of coffee before some of the storms last year (we had an insane winter here in eastern Canada).
Another thing, was she made a schedule for people to come and talk with her, and she wanted to hear what staff felt currently were the biggest issues on the unit, and what were some potential solutions to these issues. This really floored me because it showed an active interest in improvement, and not waiting till things got bad enough to feel you "had to go to the manager" over it, but being proactive and asking for the issues herself.
I believe she does have experience in our area years ago, but these things mean much more to me personally. Getting really involved, showing appreciation, and being available for concerns,etc.
And of course, learn as much as you can about the area you will be going to :) Hope this helps
nynursey_
642 Posts
Depends how involved they are. When our new manager came, she started doing some things that our previous manager never did, and these things made us really respect her very quickly. This included: frequently coming out to the floor and talking to staff about what patients were currently on the unit, were there any patients we were extra concerned about at this time? etc. Then later on in the shift she would come back around and ask how that patient was doing, or ask general questions about the patients from the mini "report" she got earlier. This meant a lot to us as it showed she really cared and was being aware of the units on the floor. She also offered to call doctors, etc if needed during crises with patients. Another thing she did was started sending weekly emails, in the emails she would write about any changes/updates (such as.. we are working with the lab to ensure more prompt blood draws for stat blood glucose in newborns. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and fill out an incident report if it is excessive. Jane Doe has been awarded Emily's 100% temp, congratulations Jane! Next staff meeting November 22. ETC.) She would also usually have something positive to say, which always was nice, such as "we had some letters come in this week of patients extremely happy with their care on our unit. Thanks to everyone for working so hard!" or "I know this week has been very crazy with all the snow storms. Thank you so much to all the staff for their dedication, it truly does not go unnoticed and means so much." She also brought in bags of food/treats and box of coffee before some of the storms last year (we had an insane winter here in eastern Canada). Another thing, was she made a schedule for people to come and talk with her, and she wanted to hear what staff felt currently were the biggest issues on the unit, and what were some potential solutions to these issues. This really floored me because it showed an active interest in improvement, and not waiting till things got bad enough to feel you "had to go to the manager" over it, but being proactive and asking for the issues herself. I believe she does have experience in our area years ago, but these things mean much more to me personally. Getting really involved, showing appreciation, and being available for concerns,etc. And of course, learn as much as you can about the area you will be going to :) Hope this helps
My former unit manager was this exact type of manager, and it absolutely broke my heart to lose him earlier this month.
Managers could do well to learn from this type of leadership. Nurses feel more respected, more supported, and more engaged. And that makes for better patient outcomes.
Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN
11,305 Posts
I think a good manager can easily adapt by doing many of the things NurseStorm mentioned.
A good manager is a good manager. Period.
I've had a few of those. Very grateful.
Horseshoe, BSN, RN
5,879 Posts
Actually, I do, because management is rarely about a particular specialty. It's about human beings, how to interact with them, how to best motivate them, willingness to go to bat for the, etc. Perhaps ideally they have experience in that field, but I don't think it's even close to being a deal breaker if they have the "people" part of management down pat.
elkpark
14,633 Posts
I think everyone would agree that, ideally, your nurse manager would have significant (dare I say, extensive?) experience in the clinical specialty s/he is managing. However, I can see having a good experience with a manager with limited clinical experience in the specific clinical specialty of the unit/department as long as the manager has significant clinical nursing experience of some kind. Personally, I've seen only bad outcomes with the managers who have little to no actual clinical experience at all.
Thanks, guys. THat was kind of my opinion, but I wanted to know if others felt the same. I'm trying to get to the next step in my career, but opportunities are limited in women's health. A recruiter recently asked me if I would consider other areas, like med/surg. I had honestly never considered it, but now I'm starting to give it some thought.
Libby1987
3,726 Posts
Our clinical director did not have experience in our area but she came with good management skills and started as an assist director surrounded by those with clinical skills. By the time she promoted to director she learned a lot about our speciality from the position of manager with occasional hands on care and she has done exceptionally well.
I think the key was one she was a quality nurse to begin with and two she had the practical and inherent skills of a manager.
I'd say go for it!
AuDDoc
102 Posts
I think managing is more about your people skills, ability to read situations and put your best performers on certain tasks. You need to be able to read strengths and weaknesses (everyone has something they are great at and things they are not so great at) of the people on your team, and then be able to get everyone on board to work as a team to complete what needs done.
Experience in a certain field? Nah I do not think this is a must for a manager. I've seen plenty of horrible managers who have tons of experience in their field. Not everyone is born a leader and not everyone can be trained to be a leader.
SmilingBluEyes
20,964 Posts
OF COURSE I WOULD if she were YOU!!!!
Awww, thank you!