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What are the strengths and deficits of this organization? I've heard pros and cons lately. I do think, if there are problems, the time to address them is AFTER this crisis.

I'd love to learn information from fellow nurses.

1 minute ago, Daisy4RN said:

This time line shows that the Trump admin was acting in those months you claim they were not all the while getting zero help from the Democrats in Jan (who were still busy trying to impeach him) and liberal state media who were also calling him xenophobic along with all the other names they have been calling him for 3 years now. I am sure you know that the WHO did not officially classify the coronavirus a Pandemic until March 11.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/timeline-the-trump-administrations-decisive-actions-to-combat-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

Of course we should all be talking about getting back to work and getting the country moving again and how to do that. If we don't the whole country is going to implode. This is common sense.

I am not saying that the Trump admin is perfect but if you look at the time line it is clear that they have been working hard (despite interference from some Dems and their state media)

Jan 6 CDC issues a level 1 travel watch for China outbreak and offers to send a team to China which China declined

Jan 8 WHO praises China for notable achievement in ID of virus and Chinas increased capacity to manage new outbreaks

Jan 14 WHO announced Chinese gov has found no evidence of human to human spread, meanwhile according the AP internal Chinese docs show that Chinese gov acknowledged human to human spread and were hiding info

Jan 15 Trump signs trade deal with China

Jan 17 Second death in Wuhan, CDC and HHS start screening travelers from Wuhan

Jan 20 Chinese expert on infectious dx confirms human to human transmission

Jan 21 First US case

Jan 23 WHO said outbreak did not constitute a public emergency and there was no evidence of the virus spreading between humans outside of China

Jan 29: The White House forms a coronavirus response task force, initially led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar.

Jan 30 WHO declares a global emergency

Jan 31 Trump issues travel ban from China/persons who pose a risk of transmitting 2019 novel coronavirus, Azar declares public health emergency

In response to the ban :

NYT quotes Dr Osterholm (epidemiologist) travel ban “more of an emotional or political reaction”

WaPo: slams the WH for acting in disregard of WHO travel restriction recommendations

Vox: “Is this going to be a deadly pandemic? No”

CNN “It’s not a new pandemic, it’s the flu”

Feb 1 Biden (the other guy running for President) calls Trump hysterical, xenophobic and accuses him of fearmongering

Feb 2: NYC Health Commissioner and also Chair of NYC Council health committee tell people to go about your lives and no problem gathering in crowds for Lunar New Year parade

Feb 4 WHO urged that there be no travel bans

Feb 5 After doing nothing r/t coronavirus House Democrats take up virus in the House Foreign Affairs after the President was acquitted on both articles of impeachment (21 days after the first death of coronavirus)

Feb 11 Biden advisor says evidence suggests coronavirus won’t be a serious pandemic

Feb 17 Fauci says risk of infection in US is mimiscule

Feb 24 Pelosi visits SanFran Chinatown and asks others to be careful but come visit

Feb 24 White house requests $ 2.5 billion to help combat coronavirus

The United States confirmed 18 more cases including evacuated passengers from the cruise ship, bringing the total number to 53

Feb 25 Trump says admin will seek 2.5 billion from Congress to combat virus

Feb 26 Pence tasked with leading response

Feb 26 Dr Brix joins Pence

End of Feb US had 68 cases

March 2 NYC Mayor DeBlaso encourages New Yorkers to go on with your lives and get out on the town

March 4 NYC official states no indication that being in a car or the subway is a risk;

CNN’s Anderson Cooper and Dr Sanjay Gupta “..if you are freaked out about the coronavirus you should be more concerned about the flu”

March 9 Bernie Sanders says he would not close the border even if necessary to stop the spread and called Trump xenophobic

March 11 Trump blocks travel from Europe and declares national emergency authorizing $50 million to states; WHO classifies coronavirus officially a Pandemic

March 26 CARES bill passes after being help up in Congress by Pelosi trying to add funding for entities that have zero to do with covid

Tell me more about the democratic state media. I didn't know it was a thing.

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Just now, hherrn said:

Tell me more about the democratic state media. I didn't know it was a thing.

I guess you don't watch it then, the ones who claim to be journalists (ie not commentary shows) but yet give their opinions along with fact free news.

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2 hours ago, Rose_Queen said:

@pixierose my sympathies on your and your coworkers loss.

Thank you, Rose Queen. I’m not doing very well with it, so I appreciate your kind words.

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2 hours ago, Rose_Queen said:

@pixierose my sympathies on your and your coworkers loss.

I am also sorry about you loss, I am sure this is a very difficult time and wish you all well!

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13 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

I guess you don't watch it then, the ones who claim to be journalists (ie not commentary shows) but yet give their opinions along with fact free news.

Which ones? Please be specific.

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34 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

I guess you don't watch it then, the ones who claim to be journalists (ie not commentary shows) but yet give their opinions along with fact free news.

Help me out here. Which ones are run by the by the democratic state media?

Watching ABC right now- is this a branch of the dems?

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25 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Which ones? Please be specific.

25 minutes ago, hherrn said:

Help me out here. Which ones are run by the by the democratic state media?

Watching ABC right now- is this a branch of the dems?

My original response was to SummerGarden claiming that Trump had a state run media. I find it rather curious that you dont question that comment, hmm.

I think you know, or at least can figure out, what I mean, it is not that difficult.

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20 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

My original response was to SummerGarden claiming that Trump had a state run media. I find it rather curious that you dont question that comment, hmm.

I think you know, or at least can figure out, what I mean, it is not that difficult.

I missed that. I am pretty sure he does not have a state run media. Feel free to pass my opinion on.

Back to my question. You seem reliable and knowledgeable- Educate me on the Democratic state run media. I just watched ABC. I prefer NBC for evening news, but live rural with an antenna, and can't get it lately.

So- was that part of it?

How does it work?

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1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

My original response was to SummerGarden claiming that Trump had a state run media. I find it rather curious that you dont question that comment, hmm.

I think you know, or at least can figure out, what I mean, it is not that difficult.

You think wrong. You should be capable of articulating exactly which journalists or media outlets you were referencing. Tell me what you mean.

I'm listening to NPR...is that liberal state radio?

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To clarify, I'm interested in concise explanations of the WHO.

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13 hours ago, Emergent said:

To clarify, I'm interested in concise explanations of the WHO.

Have you tried Wikipedia?

In my view, recent complaints about the WHO are attempts to deflect from obvious failures within the USA. The CDC opted to create their own superior test which had an additional broad diagnostic element, rather than to accept and manufacture the basic test from the WHO. That creation failed and we have not (as a nation) recovered from that delay. The evidence simply demonstrates that Trump is again deflecting and projecting. It first started with complaints that Obama had left him a mess and incorrect tests, now Trump is blaming the WHO.

When the USA takes money from the WHO in the midst of a global pandemic it is tantamount to telling the rest of the developing world to piss off, they don't matter as much as money and pissing contests.

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The political divide is certainly apparent on this thread. ?

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