who will need to undergo Substantially Equivalent Competency (SEC) assessment

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I would like to know if all international educated nurses have to undergo SEC assessment or only those having 3 years diploma ? or those having less experience or what ?

What exactly are the parameters on which CARNA decides if one has to go for SEC assessment before taking CRNE ?

can anybody please tell me ?

thanks.

Passing the NCLEX has NOTHING to do with how well you will work in Canada.

The Canadian exam is totally different.

Some people do great at exams and can't function on the floor. It's a test of your skills as well as your knowledge.

I know NCLEX is not recognized in Canada. But my friend told me that CRNE is far much easier than NCLEX, she passed both exams already. I just don't know with SEC because you need to be tested on skills. But I believe that people with great knowledge will do well on the floor, because knowledge and skills go hand on hand.

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I know NCLEX is not recognized in Canada. But my friend told me that CRNE is far much easier than NCLEX, she passed both exams already. I just don't know with SEC because you need to be tested on skills. But I believe that people with great knowledge will do well on the floor, because knowledge and skills go hand on hand.

Most people find the CRNE to be harder to pass than NCLEX because the focus is not on the clinical so much as the psychosocial, and because health care is very different in Canada. And as for knowledge and skills going hand in hand, that's not a given. I've known many nurses who are very book smart but cannot apply that knowledge to a situation when faced with rapidly changing conditions. In the case of SEC, if one's education isn't quite up to par with the Canadian experience will often fill in the gaps. Med-surg covers such a range of possibilities, but there's also a lot of overlap with other specialties, so it's possible that you may do very well.

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Specializes in education.

Just to let you know that CRNE has undergone some changes for this year and the five year cycle for 2010 to 2015.

Blueprint changes include:

  • more emphasis on electronic communication and how the nurse uses that and whether they know the parameters of confidentiality and other legal parameters affected by electronic communication. - You have to know the laws of Canada!
  • Competencies are now 128 instead of 194 - but do NOT be fooled by this reduction. There is not less to know as some of the competencies have been combined into one ( like the one on ethics which used to be 8 different competencies and is now one.)
  • fewer questions on the exam - this may seem like a favourable improvement but there is also less time. There used to be 6 hours to complete 300 questions and now there is about 4 hours to complete about 230 questions -- do the math you now get less time per question!
  • a higher level of difficulty. Questions at the cognitive level of application and critical thinking now form a minimum of 40% (each) of the exam whereas they used to only be 30-40% (each). Questions at the lower cognitive levels of knowlege and comprehension are now at 10% or below.

These are substantial changes you should be aware of.

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thanks for the information, I will keep that in mind. Is CRNE a paper based or computer based exam?

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

CRNE is currently paper based and only available in certain designated centers in each province 3 times a year

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RN Canada

thanks for clarifying the changes to the CRNE blueprint for the June 2010-2015 cycle.

janfrn

I expect that IENS who plan to write the CRNE in June will begin posting questions about the new blueprint, when you have the time, can you update CRNE FAQ sticky with the new blueprint information?

thanks

dishes

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Just did that, dishes. even before I saw this post. Thanks for the help!

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hi! i'm new to this and i hope someone can help me...

i have applied as a Federal Skilled Worker last feb. 17 and received notice of my eligibility last april 13.:yeah: i am given 120 days to complete all supporting documents... at the rate the immigration office of canada here in manila is going, i am looking at 10 mos to one year at least before i get to canada on a permanent resident visa if all goes well...

now here is my question... i have already requested and received the packet for registration application from the college of ontario... i would like to know if:

1) it will be prudent to submit the completed application form BEFORE i go to canada and

2) do i need to include the original copy of my TRF (test result form) from IELTS as part of the requirements TO SIT FOR THE CRNE?...

i am aware that proof of language proficiency (in this case my IELTS) is required for me TO GET A LICENSE, i'm just wondering if it is required as well for me to be made eligible to take the CRNE... i intend to undergo SEC (if required) and sit for the CRNE the soonest i can manage it...

my dilemma is with my IELTS as it has met the two year expiration last nov. 17, 2009... the canadian immigration consulate requests the original TRF to be submitted and i have had some friends whose original TRFs were not returned to them... the IELTS only offers free direct mailing of TRFs to accredited institutions for up to two years from the date of the examination which is, obviously, no longer available for me... so my only proof is my personal copy which i will submit to the canadian consulate... does that mean i would have to take it again?:crying2:

i have also read in the college of ontario website that applications for registration must be completed within ONE YEAR of submission... that is why i need help...

lastly, thanks for all who make time addressing concerns here...

again, thank you in advance for those who will help me and i hope i am on the right blog :lol2:

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

I would start the process with the college sooner rather than later because any problems with paperwork you can easily sort it out. However for the college I think you will find that your English exam has to be current and will be expected before they give you eligibility to sit CRNE. Also not sure which level you did for your PR application but academic is required by the college (if I remember correctly but you should check out the college as I am sure they will state what is required)

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thanks Silverdragon102... :)

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it will be prudent to submit the completed application form BEFORE i go to canada and

2) do i need to include the original copy of my TRF (test result form) from IELTS as part of the requirements TO SIT FOR THE CRNE?...

You really need to be asking these questions of the college - they are the only ones that can answer with any certainty.

One thing is certain, you will not be granted permission to sit the CRNE until all requirements for your nuring license are met. Passing the CRNE is the last requirement for your nursing license and permission is not granted until everything is in order.

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@ can-rn

you need to resit for ACADEMIC IELTS because it is only valid for 2 years and check the website of College of Nurses because they have specific requirement of IELTS score per province. Don't worry about your personal copy, because you need to request another copy of your test result form and must be sent directly from the testing agency to the College not from you.

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