Why aren't new grads getting hired?

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Why with hundreds of unfilled positions is no one hiring new grads.

What is the logical reason behind this? Is there a logical reason?

Has this ever happened in the history of nursing before?

I feel like I am not apart of the nursing community, I feel as if I am viewed as lesser and treated in conjunction with that stereotype.

I feel like we are being alienated and black balled. None of us can start our careers if we can't get a chance from anyone, and if we are the future it seems not so smart to make us all offended and scorned because at some point we are going to be needed. If there is no new grads coming in, there are no future nurses being secured.

We are all going to be indifferent to the hospitals that would not help us start our career, so when I get experience and in the future when those same hospitals have no nurses because they shunned a whole generation of nurses. Most of the new grads I know feel the same way.

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Specializes in LTC.

They can't afford to train new grads. Simple. It cost around 20,000 dollars to train one new grad...

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Also, from what I've heard here, the nursing "shortage" isn't real.

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Specializes in Nurse Scientist-Research.

To a nurse manager it costs much more to give you the experience you need to be useful to him/her. It costs much less to hire and train an experienced nurse before he/she is functional for the unit. Given the choice, it's a no-brainer.

And to a nurse manager, it costs zero to leave that position open. Well, if things are really bad they do have to pay people overtime to work those shifts, but it doesn't bother most management types to just let the nurses work short.

Don't hate on a whole generation because management isn't hiring. I might be in that generation and I have absolutely no power over hiring decisions.

I'm really sorry for the new grads out there. I barely got hired right before our hospital had some hiring freezes in the mid '90s.

If I couldn't have gotten a job right out of school I would have been in a world of hurt. I had $11 in my checking account the week I started GN orientation and had to borrow money to buy lunch at work.

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They can't afford to train new grads. Simple. It cost around 20,000 dollars to train one new grad...

Okay, I thought I wanted a logical answer. I lied, that sucks. Plus, there is all this jumping ship going on. Thats insane it costs that much to train a new grad, an experienced nurse can just come in and do the job without training? I assumed that they would all need the same training coming from different places or fields?

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They can't afford to train new grads. Simple. It cost around 20,000 dollars to train one new grad...

Also, you can just about count on the fact that after spending that money to train a new grad, a good percentage will leave within a fairly short period of time. When I got hired recently, we went through an extensive orientation. One of the nurses I was in orientation with left after just 1 month of being on her own, and another one I know left to go to another facility. That's money down the drain.

Even if we stick it out, many new grads may move on to "greener pastures" after that coveted 1 year of experience. Couple that with the fact that the market is oversaturated, and I see why managers would hire experienced nurses over new grads any day if given the choice. (P.S. - I'm not hatin' on new grads; I am one. I'm just trying to see it from a manager's point of view).

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Also, from what I've heard here, the nursing "shortage" isn't real.

You know I have heard that too. BTW, you seem to know about almost everything. I should just ask you specifically 1st.

How not funny it would be for that to have been made up because the cost of nursing school now will unequivicably (did I spell right) ruin a life if they do not get a job. I was going to sign up for BSN (I only have ADN) because everyone says must have BSN, but afraid to go deeper in debt and even with a BSN I am still just a new grad?

Were did the whole shortage thing come from 1st, some nursing school? I have wondered that for a long time. I see the thing with the babyboomers and all, but what happens after the babyboomers???

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Okay, I thought I wanted a logical answer. I lied, that sucks. Plus, there is all this jumping ship going on. Thats insane it costs that much to train a new grad, an experienced nurse can just come in and do the job without training? I assumed that they would all need the same training coming from different places or fields?

Not necessarily. An experienced nurse might need facility orientation (policies, where to find stuff, etc.), but clinically speaking, they can hit the ground running. Another nurse I was in orientation with (she had 10+ yrs. experience as an RN) actually got pulled out of orientation to go ahead and start working on the floor. She just didn't need to be with a preceptor like the new grads did, so she started working much sooner.

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Specializes in Acute Care Cardiac, Education, Prof Practice.
Also, from what I've heard here, the nursing "shortage" isn't real.

XT I just want to poke you in your goat eye for this. And I love you.

Or perhaps you are being sarcastic.

I will let you clarify before I hop on my soap box.

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"In your goat eye"...LMAO :lol2:

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Also, you can just about count on the fact that after spending that money to train a new grad, a good percentage will leave within a fairly short period of time. When I got hired recently, we went through an extensive orientation. One of the nurses I was in orientation with left after just 1 month of being on her own, and another one I know left to go to another facility. That's money down the drain.

Even if we stick it out, many new grads may move on to "greener pastures" after that coveted 1 year of experience. Couple that with the fact that the market is oversaturated, and I see why managers would hire experienced nurses over new grads any day if given the choice. (P.S. - I'm not hatin' on new grads; I am one. I'm just trying to see it from a manager's point of view).

I see why a manager would hire experienced over new grad too, no question there. I just don't see why they would leave a position unfilled just to not hire a new grad. I know many nurses that jumped ship and go on like you said, hospitals are probably sick of it for sure.

When you say the market is oversaturated........your saying there are plainly just to darn many of us right? I couldn't bare to bring that to light? Plus, more and more and more and more keep coming. I just talked to a girl who is starting nursing school for an ADN (I have to) and I tried to warn and say dont do it, but she said I wont have that problem??? Really, I am the top of my class and that doesn't mean anything but that I got more interviews but not hired.

Plus, at some point the nurses that are there have to protect their field is my thought to be honest. If they let in too many new grads and the field is over populated, there goes wages, etc. I think that is a valid concern and contributes to it all.

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Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
they can't afford to train new grads. simple. it cost around 20,000 dollars to train one new grad...

true. plus in the hospital setting new grads can cost about 80-100,000/ one new grad.

thats insane it costs that much to train a new grad, an experienced nurse can just come in and do the job without training? i assumed that they would all need the same training coming from different places or fields?

no. experienced nurses are shown the bathroom and where to put his/her belongings. if needed, he/she may get 1-2 days of hospital training on equipment to prove competency and maybe a few days-a few weeks of orientation if the nurse has entered a new specialty. that is usually all. new grads require a lot more orientation because new grads are taught how to nurse.

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