Why Do Crna Gets Paid So Much?

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have anyone ever check out the salary chart for certified registered nurse anethesia, they get pay ALOT ! more then a pharmacist but why? they only have master degree....and NPS are the same! but way less then theM! http://www.crnajobs.com/crna-careers/main.aspx if you click the 2007 salary report they are getting paid like 120-190k a year WHAT! and NP ranges from 80-110k!

Specializes in ER/ICU, CCRN, SRNA (class of 2010).

I believe that all APNs should make 70-80% of what an MD makes in their specialty. From that perspective all APNs are under paid by quite a bit. Instead of fighting over why one is paid more then another efforts should be made to get APNs paid what they deserve.

-Smiley

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how much school does it take to be a CRNA as much as NP right? or is different. and yea i made my decision, i'm going to go to university of san francisco undergrad nursing program.

One big difference is that many NP programs allow you to work while you study. There is no CRNA program where you will be able to work at the same time you are attending the program. Thus, the cost of the program and your living expenses will have to be paid through loans, and personal savings for the next 2.5 years.

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Specializes in Peds/Neo CCT,Flight, ER, Hem/Onc.

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I believe that all APNs should make 70-80% of what an MD makes in their specialty. From that perspective all APNs are under paid by quite a bit. Instead of fighting over why one is paid more then another efforts should be made to get APNs paid what they deserve.

-Smiley

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As another person put it I will now put on my asbestos underwear.

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Specializes in ICU.

Depends on the program and the amount of clinics involved.

Some are 24 months some are 30.........

MSN can be had as short as 14 months.........some are 24 months

So it depends on the program........the difference is the experience accepted as prerequisite. Most CRNA programs require 2 years ICU experience.........some only 1 year. ARNP can be done right after BSN.

So it all depends on the program and requirements. As said in another post by 2011 they will require a PhD for CRNA.

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It is a really simple reason. We generate much more revenue for the hospitals than NPs or other nursing specialties. There is also a huge demand for anesthesia providers right now. It's not complicated just follow the money and you will gewt your answer to 99% of your questions.

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As said in another post by 2011 they will require a PhD for CRNA.

This is not correct. A PhD is a research doctorate. The AACN is pushing the earlier bid for doctoral preparation. The AANA is pushing towards a goal of a practice doctorate (DNP, DNAP) or similar doctorate by 2025. PhD will be welcome, but not required.

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i'm probably gonna get creamed for this, but here goes....

crna's get paid so much more because of 2 things:

1. education (master's degree just like the np/apn)

and

2. responsibility.

yes, as an icu nurse i have many of the same responsibilities as a crna (putting people to sleep so the doc can intubate (even titrate drips to keep them asleep and in some cases paralyzed), managing drips and lines, closely monitoring cardiac condition, etc. even though i can do carry out these things on my own, they have to be ordered by a physician and there is little that i can truly do solely on my own (with the exception of acls protocols).

a crna is trained to be an independent provider of anesthesia. essentially, you could look at it this way.........why does an anesthesiologist get paid more than a crna? same reasons, more responsibility, more education.

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Specializes in acute care.

Does that mean that the CRNA will then be considered a doctor?

So it all depends on the program and requirements. As said in another post by 2011 they will require a PhD for CRNA.

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Not a medical doctor, just like a professor of history can have a PhD and be called a doctor. Or a bio professor can be a Dr. but is not an MD. I believe the PhD for the CRNA is more research based like most PhD programs.

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i'm probably gonna get creamed for this, but here goes....

crna's get paid so much more because of 2 things:

1. education (master's degree just like the np/apn)

and

2. responsibility.

yes, as an icu nurse i have many of the same responsibilities as a crna (putting people to sleep so the doc can intubate (even titrate drips to keep them asleep and in some cases paralyzed), managing drips and lines, closely monitoring cardiac condition, etc. even though i can do carry out these things on my own, they have to be ordered by a physician and there is little that i can truly do solely on my own (with the exception of acls protocols).

a crna is trained to be an independent provider of anesthesia. essentially, you could look at it this way.........why does an anesthesiologist get paid more than a crna? same reasons, more responsibility, more education.

this still doesn't explain the pay difference between crna vs np/cns. i'm going to go with the fact thatanesthesia can be a cash cow and these professionals can make the hospital a lot of money. also there are far fewer crna's than other advance practice nurses.

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Depends on the program and the amount of clinics involved.

Some are 24 months some are 30.........

MSN can be had as short as 14 months.........some are 24 months

So it depends on the program........the difference is the experience accepted as prerequisite. Most CRNA programs require 2 years ICU experience.........some only 1 year. ARNP can be done right after BSN.

So it all depends on the program and requirements. As said in another post by 2011 they will require a PhD for CRNA.

Ugh. I don't know why I continue to be amazed at the misinformation being spread on this site.

While NP programs average 24 months most CRNA programs average 30 months of full time study. NP programs typically allow you to work full time while going to school whereas CRNA programs are intense enough that working even part time is simply not possible. So, even comparing the 24 months of NP programs to the 30 months of CRNA programs is not an "apples to apples" comparison.

Most CRNA programs do not REQUIRE 2 years of ICU experience, only 1 year. However, most applicants have 4-5 years of ICU experience and need that to be competitive against the other applicants. While most applicants have more than the minimum, the requirement is still the same: one year.

There is currently no requirement for a PhD trained CRNA by 2011. The AANA is currently in favor of Doctoral trained CRNA's (read DNP, not PhD...DNP is clincial based training while PhD is research based) by year 2025.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
Ugh. I don't know why I continue to be amazed at the misinformation being spread on this site.

.........

AMEN!

A very high percentage of the stuff out there on the information highway is roadkill.

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