Where does the new Associate Degree RN fit in?

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The hospitals snub their noses at us because we don't have a BSN, leaving us no other alternative than to work at long-term care facilities, where most LPN's are employed. The long-term care facility staff are resentful towards us because we are taking the jobs that would normally be given to LPNs or immigrant RNs. Where do we belong?

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Specializes in Oncology.

We fit in a van down by the river or a cardboard box because there are no decent jobs for us. I am happy I finally found something besides LTC (which I was miserable in because of the overwork and understaffing plus rude doctors) but it took over a year.

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Specializes in peds-trach/vent.
The hospitals snub their noses at us because we don’t have a BSN, leaving us no other alternative than to work at long-term care facilities, where most LPN’s are employed. The long-term care facility staff are resentful towards us because we are taking the jobs that would normally be given to LPNs or immigrant RNs. Where do we belong?

I love this! You must've worked in a Philly LTCF. But seriously, we have no choice but to get that BSN. Got my RN in march, started on BSN in may. Trust me there's not too much in the city w/o the bachelors. Good luck to you.:)

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funny....you see threads where people swear there is no difference in getting a bsn or adn and that getting a bsn is practically worthless...

then you see threads like this.

things that make you go HMMMMM

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Specializes in peds-trach/vent.

i think its all based on region. im in the northeast (PA) and the market here sucks for the ADN. maybe if i moved down south or out west, i would have alot more prospects. people should maybe state their region before assuming that its all good. in philly, its not all milk and honey. one or the other, but not both.:)

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Get your BSN. It is the future in nursing.

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Specializes in Emergency, Med-Surg, Progressive Care.
We fit in a van down by the river or a cardboard box because there are no decent jobs for us. I am happy I finally found something besides LTC (which I was miserable in because of the overwork and understaffing plus rude doctors) but it took over a year.

Well la-dee-frickin-da! We got ourselves a nurse here! From what I've heard, you're using your med-surg book not for writin', but for ROLLIN' DOOBIES!

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New ASN grad here. Graduated in May, passed the NCLEX June 14th, started working as an RN on Monday on a med-surg floor. It seems like most of the hospital nurses 'round my parts have associate degrees. I don't think most places give a hoot, with the exception of the bigger university-affiliated hospital in the more populated area of the state. Some places say 'BSN preferred', but there aren't a lot of BSN programs in the state.

Whoops-a-daisy!

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Specializes in ICU.

We still hire ADN prepared RN's. As a matter of fact, precious few of us here have our BSN. My DON is an ADN, and so are all of our supervisors. I'm not saying that is a good thing~ get all the education you can afford~ but I wouldn't go into great debt for it. Most hospitals here only pay 50 cents per hour more for the BSN. The trend in my area is to have a "certification" in a particular area.

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Not too impressed with all the BSN only hospital university hospitals. I too worked in the major philly university hospital that started Philly on the 'BSN only" craze. Their Dean of nursing wrote umpteen aricles to get her point pushed for her expensive university. The BSN's sat at the desk, knew very little about hands on basic nursing skills. Spent very little time with the patients- the aids were the ones in and out of those rooms . Was more impressed with the little poor inner city hospital's diploma nurses across town- more knowlegable( on tangible, practical nursing.) less reliance on fancy bells and whistle equipement- just their own nursing assessment and observation skills. The snobbish university hospital could expound mounds on the status global health care in 3rd world countries. Not very useful in the USA.

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We have 2 nursing schools in my area, one a ADN the other a BSN. The ADN program is harder to get in to, has a tougher grading scale, more clinical time, and a better pass rate on the state boards. People that don't get in to the ADN program or pass it, then take a crack at the BSN. I've heard multiple nurse managers state that they would rather hire an ADN from our school than the BSN from the other. I've never had an issue with my "lesser" degree because my school has an awesome reputation, and that mirrors the truth that sometimes it's not what you know but who you know when it comes to getting a job. And my schools name on my resume is a great "referral".

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Specializes in critical care, Med-Surg.

I have been LPN, ADN, and BSN.

I am currently searching for job, and was told outright "We are looking to hire BSNs" This is an academic, magnet hospital. (In Louisiana).

So where do you belong? If you are looking for long term job security or advancement, the answer is "in school". And if you can only afford one class at a time, that is fine.

I see a big push for this now. It may change as baby boomers retire/economy improves, but for now, I would advise pursuing BSN if at all possible, no matter how slowly.

And the extra education WILL make you a better, more well rounded nurse.

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In Our area everything is BSN preferred, and anything but the basic med surg type floors won't hire an ADN new grad. I've looked at hospice, clinical, er, or, pacu, home health, research, L&d, and peds, and they all require either bsn or 2+ years exp. it's getting depressing, having a $30,000 degree and not being able to get a job :/

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