When is my shift over?

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Firstly, I am 39 years old and a new nurse of five months on an extremely busy med/surg floor which focuses (somewhat) on solid organ transplant.

I am still learning to put things together, and in fact I learn something every single day. I have a full patient load of 5 most days. I take my job very seriously and I NEVER stop. I am not at the nurses' station looking at clothes on the computer, or gossiping. My main goal when I walk in there is to do everything I can as efficiently as I can so that I can get out of there on time. Which means, as close to 7:30 as humanly possible.

This doesn't always work, however. I live an hour away from the hospital, and by the time I drive home I have worked a 15 hour day, if I have to come back the following day I am pretty well ready to drop. So getting out on time is important, and so is doing my job well.

Okay, enough prelude. So the other day I had everything sewed up. All my charting up to date, everyone taken care of, meds current, orders taken off. I was feeling really good. Then something happens after 5 pm. Everyone wants something and everything suddenly has to be done. I had an order for a heparin drip, which I had never done before. I was trying not to stress, because I knew there were lots of nurses that could help me. Trouble was, they were all busy, too, and couldn't get free to show me how to do things. It requires a second nurse check to hang heparin, anyway, so I had to have someone. The heparin wasn't up in the tube station yet, so I couldn't give it, and a nurse told me I needed an aptt to be able to start the drip anyway. So I call to have lab come do this. Meanwhile, transport comes to take my patient to CT. The heparin comes up at the same time. I ask another nurse what to do, and they said to let it wait because, hey, CT will just turn off the heparin drip anyway. Fine. Obviously when the lab came to do the blood draw, the patient was gone.

Pt comes back up, I instantly call to have her blood drawn. We wait for the results, get them, and I'm ready to hang the drip. I have to get a nurse to help me, because I don't know what I'm doing. Other patients are asking for stuff, I'm running to take care of their needs. One patient had stomach contents dripping out of his NG tube all over his bed, I flush the tube and call for the PCA to come change the bed. Meanwhile, a new admit just arrived. It is now 6 pm. Trying not to stress, here.

I asked THREE nurses to help me with the drip, they are busy but one finally comes to help. As I am waiting for her I find that my patient is STILL in his stomach contents in his bed, a half hour after I called for the pca. I find pca sitting at nurses' station, looking sad and forlorn and reading stuff on the computer. I say, "Did you get the page about that patient?" She says yeah, what about it? I said, "It really needs to get done. I understand you're not thrilled about it but it's important to get him cleaned up." She sits there. I am ****** beyond belief.

Still waiting for the nurse to come help with the drip, I talk to my manager about the pca. She says this is the stuff she needs to know is happening and goes to inform pca to get her work done. Pca now hates my guts, as evidenced by the look of hatred as she goes to said room. Oh well...what's new.

Finally at ten till the nurse comes to help me with the drip. Informs me that the info I had gotten from another senior nurse is completely wrong and had to show me the correct way to do it, and she was right. We're working on it, trying to get things done. It is 7:40 before we get out of that room. I am flustered, exhausted, angry, and now I have to give report on 5 people.

The nurse I get to give report to is a pain in the orifice. She's particular, critical, harsh, and loves to show new nurses how smart she is. I was not in the mood. I begin report with the heparin lady, and when said nurse finds that I have hung the heparin she begins firing questions...what is the dose, I tell her, what is the rate? I can't even remember. I said I don't recall what it was but it was double checked and the pump sets it automatically. She huffs and puffs and rolls her eyes. I sigh, "Do you want me to go see what it is?" "YES!" she replies, so once more down the hall I go to get the number that she would have had herself the moment she walked into the room and looked at the pump. I come back with the number, she then asks if the pt has an order for fluids. She does, and she informs me that means she has to have a separate line put in. I am sick inside. It's now 7:45, I wasn't aware of this info before, and she's looking at me expectantly. I said, "Are you wanting me to do that?" she says back matter-of-factly, "That person needs a second line put in." I sigh. Continuing on with the painful report, because I was so tired and so frustrated that I just felt like my report was going all over the place, but still, I answered 99% of her questions. She began instructing me on what causes NG tubes to back up, which I don't mind being given useful info and being taught. But now it is after 8pm.

After report, as I am gathering things up and go to give my paperwork a last glance, make sure all is okay, she is still firing questions at me about things that she really should go and check out herself. I am really at the end of my rope.

Okay, after this long story, what I wonder is this...when does my shift end? I mean, if there were a med I hadn't given, or something like a documentation issue that needed taken care of, I understand I would need to take care of it before I left. If I was in the middle of some patient care thing and it was time to leave, obviously I wouldn't just drop it and walk away. But the thing about the IV and having to run back to the room to get the rate at which the heparin was running really got to me. My manager says that nursing is a 24 hour job, you do the best you can on your 12 hours and when the next bunch comes in it's time for them to take over. I can't work all night just because they don't want to be inconvenienced by an issues that might have started on my shift but has now bled over to theirs. I don't feel it was my responsibility to start that second IV, and I didn't. I left.

My experience is that some nurses will keep you there until hell freezes over, doing little tasks, calling doctors, etc. as long as you put up with it and bow down to their superior experience. I feel I am being used and run to death, and people have told me I need to be more assertive and stand up for myself. I will do anything I need to do, I work my orifice off, but there are two or three nurses that want me to stay for 40 minutes into their shift and take care of anything they think I should have gotten before. Well, I don't always have the luxury of things flowing so well that I can get EVERYTHING perfectly sewn up. It doesn't always work that way. What, so that's my problem? My shift just keeps extending into whenever because of days like that? I don't feel this is right, but I am looking for other opinions on it.

Gee, sure, why didn't I just stay until about 10pm and finish that guy's new admit paperwork. After all, he DID come in on MY shift!! Oh, and she rolled her eyes on the fact that I didn't get that paperwork done, too, and had to pass it to her.

Thanks for reading...

Hoosiernurse:no::banghead:

Specializes in Neuro Critical Care.

Unfortunately there will always be nurses who make the new ones feel inferior. I don't know why nurses do this to each other but it isn't going to change. All you can do is your best for your 12-hour shift. Your manager is right, nursing is a 24-hour process. Anything that doesn't get done is passed on to the next shift. Your shift ends when you are done giving report, in my opinion. If you can honestly say you did everything you could possibly do during your shift then walk out the door and feel good about yourself. Don't let other nurses make you feel inferior, they were new once too.

I just started a new job working 16 hours a day on weekends. I had only 15 minutes for my lunch and dinner on one of my very hectic days. I asked the night nurse if she could change a PICC dressing for me and she said she would try to do it. I came in the next day and she said she hadn't done it. The family came in and gave me hell because I had told the family that I thought the night nurse would be able to do it. Big mistake. So now, I just do my job and stay over if necessary. Of course, management will eventually notice I am working 17-18 hours a day and then I will tell them why. No more 15 minute breaks for me either that was a big mistake. I'm taking 30 minute breaks from now on.

Sooner or later you learn to pass things on. It's a 24-hour job. Sometimes as a courtesy I stay behind to finish up things I started, but I have no problem saying to the next shift "you need to do this.......have a good night".

:yeahthat:

I always tell the people I precept this. as long as you've honestly done all that you can, and didn't just leave things because you were being lazy, it is fine to pass things on. A hospital is a 24 hr operation, and there will definitely be times, (like the one you described) where you have no choice but to pass something on. It is ridiculous (and I'm sure your manager would agree) for you to have stayed on in overtime and exhaustion to do something that the oncoming nurse could have and should have done. Occasionally it's cool to stay for a sec and do something, particularly if the oncoming is gonna have a crazy shift, but otherwise.... Sounds like she need to get over herself...

Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ED.

On the heparin gtt, it's not a bad idea for both nurses to go in and check the pump together at shift change. This would have given her the opportunity to see the rate for herself. We go by dose in units per hour, not rate, so I would have told the oncoming nurse the dose, not the rate.

On the separate IV, that's not necessarily true. IVF are compatible with heparin, so they could be Y sited in (both on their own pump) to the same PIV. I would use the IVF as the main line, then Y site the heparin into it, that way if you have to disconnect the heparin for any reason, you can easily leave the IVF running without interruption.

Your shift ends when you give report and hand over patient care to the oncoming nurse. Any loose ends, like a med that was due at shift change, should be done by you as common courtesy. But staying over to do something like insert an IV is not necessary. Sometimes you have to pass things on to the next shift. I try very hard to tie up any loose ends, so that the things I have to pass on are things that they don't have to do right away.

Specializes in telemetry, cardiopulmonary stepdown, LTC. Hospice.

She had NS ordered at 50/hr. Everyone told me that if the pt has anything else ordered she has to be given a second line entirely, even though I know last week I picked up a pt right at the end of my shift that had a hep drip and they were just using the main line to run the hep and holding off on the IV fluids for the time being. I don't recall if there was an order for that or not, because shortly after the hep drip was d/c'd. Perhaps the pt was a hard stick and they just felt it was better to run the hep, dunno on that one.

If I had had time, I certainly would have started the IV. I kind of like starting IV's...call it strange but I do. But I also like going home!

Cara

Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ED.
She had NS ordered at 50/hr. Everyone told me that if the pt has anything else ordered she has to be given a second line entirely,

NS and heparin are compatible. In fact, heparin is often diluted in NS. You would need a separate line if the patient had anything incompatible with heparin ordered.

If it's facility policy that heparin must be infused into a completely separate IV site, then of course, follow facility policy. But it really makes no sense to me.

I'm willing to bet that when you come in to work, you get stuck with pass-ons from the previous shift. And you probably do them because you want to be a good and responsible nurse. The difficulty with this is that you are going to find yourself squeezed from both ends because there are nurses who will exploit newbies who are really trying hard. Some do it because they are twisted souls. But more do it because they are tired and have many other things on their minds.

You can tell if you are letting yourself be exploited if you find that you are the one doing most of the giving on either end of the shift.

Make yourself a mental list of what you believe is acceptable to pass to the oncoming shift. Then draw a line about what really shouldn't be left for someone else, barring extraordinary circumstances. Stick to this standard on both ends of your day, and you should have a greater sense of confidence and ability to let go.

If the previous RN says, "I left this and this and this for you to do," and you don't think it's appropriate (it's common for this nurse to dump on you, her reasons aren't good ones, etc.), say, "I wouldn't pass those things on to the next shift. I think you should do them before you leave." Even if it can't be done that day, that nurse will think twice before dumping on you again.

Set your own standards and stick to them, whether on the giving or receiving end. Don't get mad. Calmly draw your lines, and don't feel apologetic for doing so.

It's funny, but as soon as a new nurse decides she's not going to be a pushover anymore, many of the offenders stop pushing her over.

My opinion and may not be the majority. The order of fluids whatever they were should have been done much earlier, I assume the IV was up from pharmacy for those fluids also? I would have stayed to get them started realizing it was my mistake (I am assuming that the heparin drip and IV would be at different rates or non-compatible). The question of the exact heparin drip etc. in report.... I would have told her I didn't remember at the time, though it was double checked by me and so and so.......and if she wanted to know, she could check the chart or look when she made rounds on the patients. I guess what I am saying is, don't let her intimidate you, but also attempt as best you can to clean up what was not done. The PCA, after the initial "kind" request. I would have told her to please "clean the patient up now", left and if she hadn't gone within 5 minutes, would have THEN called the nurse manager, also requesting the help of the heparin at the time from the nurse manager letting her know the other nurses seem to be as busy as you today.

I am sorry you had such a bad day... I have had plenty myself, the only consolation is nothing very drastic happened to a patient. I think those kinds of days are not only nursing either.

Specializes in telemetry, cardiopulmonary stepdown, LTC. Hospice.

I don't agree that it was my mistake. There simply wasn't time left to do all of that. There wasn't time left to cope with all my other patient's needs, the fact that my heparin pt had been taken down to CT and the heparin came up just as she was leaving the floor, so there was nothing I could do about her getting her blood drawn or starting the heparin or another line until she came back up. Then when she came back up I suppose I could have been starting another line on her while we waited for the blood results but my other patients were busy leaking NG fluids and needing pain meds, and I still didn't have anyone to really explain to me what the process was for the heparin drip. My manager could have helped me, I suppose, but she prefers that we go through all the other senior nurses before coming to her for help. When the pt was back, I had my blood results, and we were ready to get things started, that's when we discovered that another senior nurse had told me how to do the calculations wrong and we had to go back over all of that. I simply ran out of time to get everything finished, and I guess I could have stayed to start the IV but at some point it's time to hand off to the next shift. It was past 8pm before I got out of there, and the other nurse was still coming up with stuff she wanted me to stay and do that she perceived as my problem.

I guess it depends on how you look at it. I have had numerous times that someone handing off to me said, "The patient JUST ripped out their IV, so you'll need to start a new one." and I didn't automatically decide that THEY should stay and do it. Or they say that they JUST went in and the pt is complaining that the IV is hurting them, so it's probably going to have to be changed. Sure enough, when I get in there, it's swelling slightly and I have to change it. I'm not too thrilled about having to do it right off the bat, but I don't get shook about it, either. I'm figuring that the person handing off to me would like to be able to call it a day as well.

Yes, the order for NS was a previous order, and yes, from that standpoint perhaps I should have said I didn't realize there needed to be a second line and stayed to do it. I was just happy as heck that I'd managed to get the heparin drip started before I left, and felt I had done a good job getting to that point and not handing that off to the next nurse. From another standpoint, I would not have had a problem with starting an IV for a nurse who was obviously rushed off her feet and far behind her time to leave. It was only for NS, the most important thing was that this woman with multiple DVTs get on her heparin drip. That's all I was focused on.

I COULD have stayed to do the NS IV, but I also could have stayed for another hour and done the new admit's paperwork, too...at some point it has to end. I don't feel I was leaving the new nurse with undue problems. I had taken care of the NG guy, my other patients had their IV fluids and pain meds given and were comfortable for the night, my documentation was up-to-date, and my hep lady was on her hep. All the nurse had left to do was put in that IV for the NS. I don't call that a mistake on my part. I was amazed I'd done as well as I had.

If I turned the situation around, and I was the experienced nurse and had to leave a new nurse with putting in a NS IV for the hep lady, and she got mad at me about it, would the perspective still be the same? I wonder if it wouldn't look like the new nurse was fussing over doing something that was really nothing much and she should be perfectly capable of doing it, since it was now her patient and her shift had started, and the other nurse was nearly an hour behind her time to leave. When I think of it that way, it's really not a big deal. The only reason I feel guilty and upset is the way the older nurse acted towards me in report, and how I keep letting her intimidate me into thinking I am always failing.

I'm not upset by your opinion...I asked for different points of view, and that's cool. It gives me something to think about and work over in my mind. Thanks.

Hoosiernurse

Specializes in telemetry, cardiopulmonary stepdown, LTC. Hospice.
:yeahthat:

I always tell the people I precept this. as long as you've honestly done all that you can, and didn't just leave things because you were being lazy, it is fine to pass things on. A hospital is a 24 hr operation, and there will definitely be times, (like the one you described) where you have no choice but to pass something on. It is ridiculous (and I'm sure your manager would agree) for you to have stayed on in overtime and exhaustion to do something that the oncoming nurse could have and should have done. Occasionally it's cool to stay for a sec and do something, particularly if the oncoming is gonna have a crazy shift, but otherwise.... Sounds like she need to get over herself...

That's how I feel. If a med was supposed to be given on my shift, I stay to take care of it or let the next nurse know why it wasn't given (hasn't come up from pharmacy in spite of mult calls or something), but otherwise, I sew all of that up, finish up my charting, pull off all the orders and make sure they are done, call in labs. Whatever. To me, this was something I A) didn't know needed to be done previously, anyway and B) was a procedural thing in the care of the patient that was okay to pass on, and didn't need to be done immediately.

Hoosiernurse

There is nothing you can do about your end of shift going to pot. Next time you have a heparin drip you will know about labs first and be on it pronto. If all nurses are busy and cannot double check call nurse supervisor or whomever you have in your institution who can help. Aide in your instance can get over being upset. It was her job to get the bed changed and she was not doing her job. Probably wasn't the first time but should be the last time. She has to keep her job herself. Don't sweat her being upset.To answer the oringinal question, your shift is over when you give report. Maybe you have paperwork that still needs to be done but all else is for the next nurse to do. That is why someone takes over for your patients. As far as the problem of 12hr shifts with travel time turning into 15 hours, you are the only person who can change that. It does make the job much more stressful

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