Published
Let me preface this article to say that I'm not stirring a pot. I found this article a little dispassionate considering the choice made.
When One Is Enough
By AMY RICHARDS as told to AMY BARRETT
Published: July 18, 2004
I grew up in a working-class family in Pennsylvania not knowing my father. I have never missed not having him. I firmly believe that, but for much of my life I felt that what I probably would have gained was economic security and with that societal security. Growing up with a single mother, I was always buying into the myth that I was going to be seduced in the back of a pickup truck and become pregnant when I was 16. I had friends when I was in school who were helping to rear nieces and nephews, because their siblings, who were not much older, were having babies. I had friends from all over the class spectrum: I saw the nieces and nephews on the one hand and country-club memberships and station wagons on the other. I felt I was in the middle. I had this fear: What would it take for me to just slip?
Now I'm 34. My boyfriend, Peter, and I have been together three years. I'm old enough to presume that I wasn't going to have an easy time becoming pregnant. I was tired of being on the pill, because it made me moody. Before I went off it, Peter and I talked about what would happen if I became pregnant, and we both agreed that we would have the child.
I found out I was having triplets when I went to my obstetrician. The doctor had just finished telling me I was going to have a low-risk pregnancy. She turned on the sonogram machine. There was a long pause, then she said, ''Are you sure you didn't take fertility drugs?'' I said, ''I'm positive.'' Peter and I were very shocked when she said there were three. ''You know, this changes everything,'' she said. ''You'll have to see a specialist.''
My immediate response was, I cannot have triplets. I was not married; I lived in a five-story walk-up in the East Village; I worked freelance; and I would have to go on bed rest in March. I lecture at colleges, and my biggest months are March and April. I would have to give up my main income for the rest of the year. There was a part of me that was sure I could work around that. But it was a matter of, Do I want to?
I looked at Peter and asked the doctor: ''Is it possible to get rid of one of them? Or two of them?'' The obstetrician wasn't an expert in selective reduction, but she knew that with a shot of potassium chloride you could eliminate one or more.
Having felt physically fine up to this point, I got on the subway afterward, and all of a sudden, I felt ill. I didn't want to eat anything. What I was going through seemed like a very unnatural experience. On the subway, Peter asked, ''Shouldn't we consider having triplets?'' And I had this adverse reaction: ''This is why they say it's the woman's choice, because you think I could just carry triplets. That's easy for you to say, but I'd have to give up my life.'' Not only would I have to be on bed rest at 20 weeks, I wouldn't be able to fly after 15. I was already at eight weeks. When I found out about the triplets, I felt like: It's not the back of a pickup at 16, but now I'm going to have to move to Staten Island. I'll never leave my house because I'll have to care for these children. I'll have to start shopping only at Costco and buying big jars of mayonnaise. Even in my moments of thinking about having three, I don't think that deep down I was ever considering it.
The specialist called me back at 10 p.m. I had just finished watching a Boston Pops concert at Symphony Hall. As everybody burst into applause, I watched my cellphone vibrating, grabbed it and ran into the lobby. He told me that he does a detailed sonogram before doing a selective reduction to see if one fetus appears to be struggling. The procedure involves a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of the fetus. There are a lot more complications when a woman carries multiples. And so, from the doctor's perspective, it's a matter of trying to save the woman this trauma. After I talked to the specialist, I told Peter, ''That's what I'm going to do.'' He replied, ''What we're going to do.'' He respected what I was going through, but at a certain point, he felt that this was a decision we were making. I agreed.
When we saw the specialist, we found out that I was carrying identical twins and a stand alone. My doctors thought the stand alone was three days older. There was something psychologically comforting about that, since I wanted to have just one. Before the procedure, I was focused on relaxing. But Peter was staring at the sonogram screen thinking: Oh, my gosh, there are three heartbeats. I can't believe we're about to make two disappear. The doctor came in, and then Peter was asked to leave. I said, ''Can Peter stay?'' The doctor said no. I know Peter was offended by that.
Two days after the procedure, smells no longer set me off and I no longer wanted to eat nothing but sour-apple gum. I went on to have a pretty seamless pregnancy. But I had a recurring feeling that this was going to come back and haunt me. Was I going to have a stillbirth or miscarry late in my pregnancy?
I had a boy, and everything is fine. But thinking about becoming pregnant again is terrifying. Am I going to have quintuplets? I would do the same thing if I had triplets again, but if I had twins, I would probably have twins. Then again, I don't know.
Well said...thank you for seeing the humanity and beauty in people like my son!
Hugs to you Shannon! Sounds like you are a very special person and that you're son is very special angel. I never agreed with abortion at all, JMHO, but I can't imagine aborting a baby because it was less than perfect. You're right, life has no guarantees and you never know if the perfectly healthy child you bare will live his whole life that way. The story in the OP makes me quite ill. This women clearly was selfish and should never have had one child, let alone three. How disgusting to kill two children because it was "inconvenient." :angryfire
Pam
Please don't flame me for sharing my past experiences. I simply posted that no one I knew ever would accept one of these human beings. I thought this would come as an enlightenment to some of you that not everyone can handle what they bring in to the world. I didn't make the broad statement nor intend to; it came from your own mind.So, please don't make broad statements that people who have taken care of "these" type of human beings would keep a child of their own with the same conditions. Just because YOU don't know anyone who would doesn't mean they aren't out there.
I PURPOSEFULLY used the term "these persons" instead of "these people" so that I wouldn't imply that they were a group of human beings that could bunched together for their one shared quality and so that I could CLEARLY convey that they are separate, unique human beings. You say that it implies that "they are not worthy of value" but I believe that this derogatory underlying meaning came out of your head and not mine. Remember that you know NOTHING about me and my own personal life and background and so that what I post is strictly WHAT I MEAN, nothing more; I don't post with any malicious undertones of devaluing or valuing something and when I have an opinion on something, I will give it. But here, I didn't give MY OPINION on how I FEEL about disabled PERSONS(READ ONLY THE SURFACE LINGUISTICS PLEASE: I used the semantics "persons" because they even though we as a society qualify them by the adjective qualifier "disabled", I want to convey that they are EACH a separate, individual, and unique person and NOT JUST PART OF A PEOPLE) The purpose of my post was to say how I felt about PEOPLE (or persons, if you prefer) who judge other people for getting pregnant and then not knowing how to take care of their babies as being "completely selfish". Don't pick on me for opinions I did not state or imply. I do that sometimes to other people too and now I guess I know how much it bites to be someone's scapegoat like that.And don't call them "these persons" like they are not worthy of value.
Okay, in response to Shannon,
Shannon, I did not want to know if you actually had a child with any sort of disorder( I thought I had made it clear that the question was rhetorical)because for you to share something personal and close to you, I feel, in a way, obligates me to share things that are personal too. But anyways, forget me, and thank you very much for sharing about your beautiful baby son. It is a joy to know that your son is healthy and well and brings you and those around you joy. I am sure he is an angel and is truly a precious gift to you.
Also, I am glad that you have grown spiritually from this and wish you all the spiritual growth and happpiness you want and need.
You mention that it makes you sick to see that people feel that your son's life is not worth living. I will share that I feel a similiar kind of sickness and that this has TREMENDOUSLY influenced my viewpoint on life, society, human beings, and my own sense of self and waht I am going to do with my life.
But back to the argument(because THIS is what matters to me):
I am arguing becuase I would be happy if it were acknowledged that people who give up children are no less/no more selfish and no more/no less spiritually grown than any other human being is.
The fact that you state that you were a teacher for disabled children means that they were not disabled enough to have lost nearly all intellectual function and also that they were somewhat sociable and communicable to be able to be taught to a certain degree. This wasn't what I was referring to. Like you said, look in to your crystal ball and ANYTHING can happen. I feel that thinking that giving up a child as being "absolutely selfish" on the mother's part is a very limited, harsh point of view on other human beings and on what could happen.
If you really can't use your own imagination/personal experience and really want me to give examples of what other people saw that made them feel that they could not have a child as such of their own, you can request it of me and I can PM you. Or, if a lot of people want to know, I could post a description but would rather not because this was my own personal experience and led to my own personal insights about human nature and I kind of would rather not share with everyone. Anyhow, I do not want to freely post anything that offends anyone and I most certainly don't want anyone digging into my own feelings on my personal experiences which no one else had or making a spectacle out of them(example, "Hmmmm, THAT is soooooo interesting!!!! You don't say!!!!!!! Weeeeelllllllll, that makes ME SO grateful that I have such healthy children AND that I'M soooo healthy. Gee, and I thought that I had it bad. I was even a little depressed but gee, BOOOOOYYYY, I am certainly grateful and happy now that I am not like any one of those people there"
I think it's always hard to say what you would do until it actually happens, so I try not to be too harsh.
Yes, good point. I don't think I was clear enough about lethal anomalies, and I can totally understand that in those cases parents would completely justifiably feel that they were doing the right and loving thing for their child by terminating. But that argument just doesn't fly with things like cleft lip or T21. And there is no way to know what you would do until you were actually in the situation--true. I can only pray that I am not put in a position to make that choice and for peace and comfort for those that are.
Shannon
susanna . . .no one is flaming you, we are having a discussion.
The way you phrased "these people" bothered me because the impression it gave when you said "these" people made it sound like you were looking down on them.
You did make a broad statement by saying you didn't know anyone who would keep one of "these" children.
I responded with my own experiences. Which are opposite of yours. And I'm not just talking about Down's or cleft palate or T21. I do personally know one particular couple, as I stated, who chose not to terminate a child with devastating multiple birth defects which were not conducive with life outside the womb. The woman gave birth and they held their daughter until she died. For them it was the right thing.
I'm not being judgmental about others who make different decisions. I'm merely responding to your statement:
"I haven't met a person who has taken care of the same disabled persons I have who has said, yes, I would keep one of these persons if they were born to me."
I have.
steph
Please don't flame me for sharing my past experiences. I simply posted that no one I knew ever would accept one of these human beings. I thought this would come as an enlightenment to some of you that not everyone can handle what they bring in to the world. I didn't make the broad statement nor intend to; it came from your own mind.I PURPOSEFULLY used the term "these persons" instead of "these people" so that I wouldn't imply that they were a group of human beings that could bunched together for their one shared quality and so that I could CLEARLY convey that they are separate, unique human beings. You say that it implies that "they are not worthy of value" but I believe that this derogatory underlying meaning came out of your head and not mine. Remember that you know NOTHING about me and my own personal life and background and so that what I post is strictly WHAT I MEAN, nothing more; I don't post with any malicious undertones of devaluing or valuing something and when I have an opinion on something, I will give it. But here, I didn't give MY OPINION on how I FEEL about disabled PERSONS(READ ONLY THE SURFACE LINGUISTICS PLEASE: I used the semantics "persons" because they even though we as a society qualify them by the adjective qualifier "disabled", I want to convey that they are EACH a separate, individual, and unique person and NOT JUST PART OF A PEOPLE) The purpose of my post was to say how I felt about PEOPLE (or persons, if you prefer) who judge other people for getting pregnant and then not knowing how to take care of their babies as being "completely selfish". Don't pick on me for opinions I did not state or imply. I do that sometimes to other people too and now I guess I know how much it bites to be someone's scapegoat like that.
Okay, in response to Shannon,
Shannon, I did not want to know if you actually had a child with any sort of disorder( I thought I had made it clear that the question was rhetorical)because for you to share something personal and close to you, I feel, in a way, obligates me to share things that are personal too. But anyways, forget me, and thank you very much for sharing about your beautiful baby son. It is a joy to know that your son is healthy and well and brings you and those around you joy. I am sure he is an angel and is truly a precious gift to you.
Also, I am glad that you have grown spiritually from this and wish you all the spiritual growth and happpiness you want and need.
You mention that it makes you sick to see that people feel that your son's life is not worth living. I will share that I feel a similiar kind of sickness and that this has TREMENDOUSLY influenced my viewpoint on life, society, human beings, and my own sense of self and waht I am going to do with my life.
But back to the argument(because THIS is what matters to me):
I am arguing becuase I would be happy if it were acknowledged that people who give up children are no less/no more selfish and no more/no less spiritually grown than any other human being is.
The fact that you state that you were a teacher for disabled children means that they were not disabled enough to have lost nearly all intellectual function and also that they were somewhat sociable and communicable to be able to be taught to a certain degree. This wasn't what I was referring to. Like you said, look in to your crystal ball and ANYTHING can happen. I feel that thinking that giving up a child as being "absolutely selfish" on the mother's part is a very limited, harsh point of view on other human beings and on what could happen.
If you really can't use your own imagination/personal experience and really want me to give examples of what other people saw that made them feel that they could not have a child as such of their own, you can request it of me and I can PM you. Or, if a lot of people want to know, I could post a description but would rather not because this was my own personal experience and led to my own personal insights about human nature and I kind of would rather not share with everyone. Anyhow, I do not want to freely post anything that offends anyone and I most certainly don't want anyone digging into my own feelings on my personal experiences which no one else had or making a spectacle out of them(example, "Hmmmm, THAT is soooooo interesting!!!! You don't say!!!!!!! Weeeeelllllllll, that makes ME SO grateful that I have such healthy children AND that I'M soooo healthy. Gee, and I thought that I had it bad. I was even a little depressed but gee, BOOOOOYYYY, I am certainly grateful and happy now that I am not like any one of those people there"
Susanna,
I don't quite think its fair of you to imply in your post that my feelings on this issue were not well thought out (i.e. advising me to research and reflect on it) but then I am not supposed to respond to the "rhetorical" question. How it would be possible for me to discuss this topic without referencing my son I can't imagine, and in fact I think it would be dishonest not to disclose my intensely personal experience.
And just to clarify--I didn't say that it was selfish for people to get pg. and "not know how to take care of their babies". IMHO it is selfish for people to purposely get pregnant, and then throw their baby away because it is less than perfect. To me it is the definition of selfishness, that because a child may require more care and support and interfere with their own desires, that someone would deprive that child of the right to live. Becoming a parent is all about sacrifice, and if you aren't prepared for that then don't get pregnant. And I do *not* think that the choice to continue a pg. means someone is more "spiritually grown" but rather the experience of parenting the child with special needs provides a great opportunity for spiritual growth.
I think that when we rationalize terminating for non-lethal abnormalities that it becomes a slippery slope--if a baby with T21, or one missing kidney, or spina bifida, or CF is OK to abort, then what about abortion for sex selection when the sex of the baby doesn't fit the parents ideal?
I havn't experienced caring for people with the degree of disability that you have. My knowledge is mostly about T21, for obvious reasons. And because it is the most common birth defect, and 90% of people who find out prenatally terminate, thousands of babies just like my son are deemed unfit to live, because their parents did not want the "burden". I understand that other people may see it differently--but if that isn't selfish then I can't imagine what is.
Again, I have done research, I have talked to geneticists, I have talked to parents, I have read Smiths...so I do know, really, what could happen. I stand by my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. I also don't need to hear about the misfortune of others to know that I am deeply blessed or to feel happy. All I have to do is to see the determination on my son's face as he perseveres in reaching a milestone that might come easily to other babies and the priceless grin when he reaches his goal and I have all the happiness I need.
Shannon
I don't quite think its fair of you to imply in your post that my feelings on this issue were not well thought out (i.e. advising me to research and reflect on it) but then I am not supposed to respond to the "rhetorical" question. How it would be possible for me to discuss this topic without referencing my son I can't imagine, and in fact I think it would be dishonest not to disclose my intensely personal experience.
You're right. You were being completely honest. And I was wrong for any hint of advising you to research and reflect. You are entitled to your own opinion and aren't obligated to do anything to change it just because another person would like you to do it for their own sake. It was very selfish and overbearing of me to give an uneasy piece of advice just to make myself feel at ease.
Yes, I see your point of view that being a parent is all about sacrifice and that to abort a baby that is "less than perfect" could be the "defintion of selfishness". You have a very strong standpoint.And just to clarify--I didn't say that it was selfish for people to get pg. and "not know how to take care of their babies". IMHO it is selfish for people to purposely get pregnant, and then throw their baby away because it is less than perfect. To me it is the definition of selfishness, that because a child may require more care and support and interfere with their own desires, that someone would deprive that child of the right to live. Becoming a parent is all about sacrifice, and if you aren't prepared for that then don't get pregnant. And I do *not* think that the choice to continue a pg. means someone is more "spiritually grown" but rather the experience of parenting the child with special needs provides a great opportunity for spiritual growth.
Steve, sorry for accusing you of flaming me and of being rude and for generalising in any way that you saw unfit. You have my word, that from now on, if I use a word that generalises or degrades, I swear that I am only using it because I am not intelligent enough as you are to be able to find a better word.
No, you haven't. The persons I knew were different from the child you are talking about. They are not the same persons. You are talking about a particular child, who, unfortunately, died soon after birth. This is very sad but I did not know this departed soul personally and you are not a person who has taken care of the same disabled persons that I have and who has met someone who said, yes, I would adopt this child or "I would have a child if I knew I had to take care of this child my whole life in this manner.""I haven't met a person who has taken care of the same disabled persons I have who has said, yes, I would keep one of these persons if they were born to me."I have.
This might piss the whole lot of you off, but I think what I feel is universally inbred(yes, i am generalizing about all of us) somehwere within all persons, regardless of what they say and because they don't have the experience, they are unaware of how disgusted they can really get. I hope other people post with their own personal experiences on this subject so that I won't feel so alone in my experiences with how horrifying human nature can really be. Everyone of us, is of course, disabled and percieved to be "ugly" and "imperfect" in many, many ways(hope that generalisation #2 flies with you okay, stevie). And this might be what scares people about having abortions for "disablement".
But actually, mayve I can't stop posting here because every person that comes here and says, "I WOULD PARENT ANY CHILD I GAVE BIRTH TO IF I WERE PLANNING A PREGNANCY" gives me an opportunity for hope. if I posted my experiences and you guys all said, OF COURSE! I WOULD ADOPT THAT PERSON OR HAVE A CHILD OF MY OWN LIKE THAT then, to tell you the truth, I'd be really happy to know that people exist who did that. I mean, REALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYY HAPPY. You will have changed my WHOLE outlook on the universe and made me so happy that people DO exist out there that would do this and get spiritual growth and happiness from it. So, if you want me to, and if you guys TRULY think that you would have and parent any child, I am willing to put it to the test and post my knowledge and experiences and you guys can truly prove to be the first people I meet by honestly saying, YES, I would parent and nurture these children. This would make me very happy. I want you to do this. I want to hear the words, yes, od course, because I have never heard them before. I only say, ask me only if you are pretty sure you can say "yes", because if you were to say "no, i wouldn't but gee am I greatful that there are institutions and that the state pays to care for these type of people and gee, am i glad i wasn't put in that kind of situation", I will be again pretty dissapointed and have shared my experiences for what I will always feel to be cheap entertainment(you may disagree that it is cheap, but this is how i feel).
I would be very glad if someone were to say, yes, susanna, yes, you can tell me and i will be honestly able to say, yes, I would lovingly parent this child. This is not sarcasm. This would reallly make me happy and I think this is what I was looking in this forum.
I think there are people out there able to handle anything, and there are others who can't. And, I firmly believe no one knows which type of person they are until it happens and they are in the same situation, not only of the child's medical diagnosis, but also with the same coping mechanisms. Today, I think I am in a position where I could handle having a child with Down's. I know it wouldn't be easy, but I think I could do it. I have a a decent savings, good job and lots of support from family, etc. 5 years ago, I don't know if I would have been able to because my circumstances were different, so who am I to say anything... I have seen a few babies in my time that I can't imagine anyone keeping... That's just my honest opinion. I find it really hard to judge another woman for choosing what she thought was best when faced with a horribly difficult situation. No woman wants to be in that situation and judging them afterwards does nothing productive. I've worked with women having to make this decision when I was an OB nurse, and all I could ever say was they have to do what they think is best for them and their family and I hope and pray that they will make peace with it either way. Most of them are just trying to choose between horrible and worse and have my compassion and sympathy. If they manage to keep their sanity, they are probably a good deal stronger than I am.
I think there are people out there able to handle anything, and there are others who can't. And, I firmly believe no one knows which type of person they are until it happens and they are in the same situation, not only of the child's medical diagnosis, but also with the same coping mechanisms. Today, I think I am in a position where I could handle having a child with Down's. I know it wouldn't be easy, but I think I could do it. I have a a decent savings, good job and lots of support from family, etc. 5 years ago, I don't know if I would have been able to because my circumstances were different, so who am I to say anything... I have seen a few babies in my time that I can't imagine anyone keeping... That's just my honest opinion. I find it really hard to judge another woman for choosing what she thought was best when faced with a horribly difficult situation. No woman wants to be in that situation and judging them afterwards does nothing productive. I've worked with women having to make this decision when I was an OB nurse, and all I could ever say was they have to do what they think is best for them and their family and I hope and pray that they will make peace with it either way. Most of them are just trying to choose between horrible and worse and have my compassion and sympathy. If they manage to keep their sanity, they are probably a good deal stronger than I am.
I have to apologize for the tone of my posts--I know I am being judgemental--each situation is totally unique, and it isn't fair to project my feelings onto other people dealing with a totally different diagnosis. I mean I have had many people tell me that they prayed their child "only" had Down syndrome.
But when I say the thought of terminating for DS makes me sick I mean it literally makes me feel nauseated and makes my heart hurt to look at my son and know that so many people wouldn't have even given him a chance. And yes, everyone's circumstances are different and I can't imagine going through the past year without an incredible support system...but again, there is a waiting list of people who would love to give a baby with DS a loving home. So I can't be objective about this issue--but hopefully the further I get in this journey I will be able to lose some of the judgement. For now this is where I am.
Also, I think many times people really underestimate what they would be able to handle--I know many parents of children with DS who say they are so thankful they didn't find out prenatally, because they are certain they would have terminated b/c they wouldn't have thought they could handle it. But guess what, they are handling it, and their child with DS has opened up their hearts in ways they didn't know were possible.
Shannon
PS I do have to say that I would provide compassionate aftercare to a pt. in this kind of situation (unless the AB was due specifically to DS) and that I would be able to put aside my personal feelings to do so
You're right. You were being completely honest. And I was wrong for any hint of advising you to research and reflect. You are entitled to your own opinion and aren't obligated to do anything to change it just because another person would like you to do it for their own sake. It was very selfish and overbearing of me to give an uneasy piece of advice just to make myself feel at ease.Yes, I see your point of view that being a parent is all about sacrifice and that to abort a baby that is "less than perfect" could be the "defintion of selfishness". You have a very strong standpoint.
Steve, sorry for accusing you of flaming me and of being rude and for generalising in any way that you saw unfit. You have my word, that from now on, if I use a word that generalises or degrades, I swear that I am only using it because I am not intelligent enough as you are to be able to find a better word.
No, you haven't. The persons I knew were different from the child you are talking about. They are not the same persons. You are talking about a particular child, who, unfortunately, died soon after birth. This is very sad but I did not know this departed soul personally and you are not a person who has taken care of the same disabled persons that I have and who has met someone who said, yes, I would adopt this child or "I would have a child if I knew I had to take care of this child my whole life in this manner."
This might piss the whole lot of you off, but I think what I feel is universally inbred(yes, i am generalizing about all of us) somehwere within all persons, regardless of what they say and because they don't have the experience, they are unaware of how disgusted they can really get. I hope other people post with their own personal experiences on this subject so that I won't feel so alone in my experiences with how horrifying human nature can really be. Everyone of us, is of course, disabled and percieved to be "ugly" and "imperfect" in many, many ways(hope that generalisation #2 flies with you okay, stevie). And this might be what scares people about having abortions for "disablement".
But actually, mayve I can't stop posting here because every person that comes here and says, "I WOULD PARENT ANY CHILD I GAVE BIRTH TO IF I WERE PLANNING A PREGNANCY" gives me an opportunity for hope. if I posted my experiences and you guys all said, OF COURSE! I WOULD ADOPT THAT PERSON OR HAVE A CHILD OF MY OWN LIKE THAT then, to tell you the truth, I'd be really happy to know that people exist who did that. I mean, REALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYY HAPPY. You will have changed my WHOLE outlook on the universe and made me so happy that people DO exist out there that would do this and get spiritual growth and happiness from it. So, if you want me to, and if you guys TRULY think that you would have and parent any child, I am willing to put it to the test and post my knowledge and experiences and you guys can truly prove to be the first people I meet by honestly saying, YES, I would parent and nurture these children. This would make me very happy. I want you to do this. I want to hear the words, yes, od course, because I have never heard them before. I only say, ask me only if you are pretty sure you can say "yes", because if you were to say "no, i wouldn't but gee am I greatful that there are institutions and that the state pays to care for these type of people and gee, am i glad i wasn't put in that kind of situation", I will be again pretty dissapointed and have shared my experiences for what I will always feel to be cheap entertainment(you may disagree that it is cheap, but this is how i feel).
I would be very glad if someone were to say, yes, susanna, yes, you can tell me and i will be honestly able to say, yes, I would lovingly parent this child. This is not sarcasm. This would reallly make me happy and I think this is what I was looking in this forum.
Susanna, I am exhausted and going to bed...too tired right now to think clearly and just wanted to let you know I will respond later.
Shannon
Susanna . . . no one is asking you to change any part of your outlook except the part that there may be folks out there who have made the choice you say folks wouldn't make.
And the case I mentioned. These parents decided to try again to have a child knowing the risks of having another child just like the one they held in their arms. And they did. And she miscarried.
There are lots of people who work in fields where they encounter children with all manner of disabilities. Some go on to get married and decide to have families. Some find out they are pregnant with a child with the same disablities of the children they've taken care of. Some decide to abort and some decide not to.
I'm not sure why you don't believe that there are people out there who, knowing full well the risks and debilitating nature of raising a child with profound disabilities, take on the challenge. I personally know them.
No one is saying you are wrong in your own perceptions of what you have encountered. Everyone has a different experience in life.
And I would never call you unfit or unintelligent.
steph
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Well said...thank you for seeing the humanity and beauty in people like my son!