When coworkers make prejudiced statements

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Yesterday I had two nurses make anti-Mexican statements. The first was a new nurse who moved from Montana and made these statements in the medroom. She's having trouble adjusting to the hospital, which does have a considerable Mexican population, but I haven't noticed the Mexicans being particularly difficult patients, they seem to come in all stripes. I made some soothing comments and changed the subject.

The second statement was made during report, I was telling the story of a patient who was a real psychosocial disaster, very difficult, a total drain on society type, we had to move her roomate the woman was so loud, obnoxious and off the wall. She had a Spanish last name so the nurse I reported to made a derogatory remark. I told him that I didn't think this woman was Mexican but was married to one, thus nipping that one in the bud. He made this comment at the nurses station within earshot of everyone! :eek:

Meanwhile, we have Hispanic coworkers galore, most of whom are awesome people! I suppose a few Hispanic workers might also resent non-Hispanics, but I find the whole thing appalling. It always blindsides me! I need to practice a witty comeback, like the fact that my husband's half sisters are half Mexican (true).

How do you guys handle this type of situation?

I hate to play devil's advocate and crash the party here, but isn't that being a bit..prejudiced?

On my mother's side, we are descended from "backwoods" coal-mining, "mountain men." A vast majority of the stereotypes related to the people from my family's region (and this includes my family) stem from truth. However, they are still stereotypes, and offensive.

*~Jess~*

Regarding the amount of prejudice in the deep south... that is not prejudice that is demographics. I never said that every single person I come in contact with is racist or discriminates against those of other races/religions/sexual preferences. However, there are certain areas of this country where these things are much more out in the open and accepted than others, and the deep south is one of them. Not everyone makes racial/religious/orientation offensive comments, but in my time here NOBODY has ever spoken up and said THATS WRONG, and I have been ostracized more than once for doing so. Where I grew up, the one person who said something racially offensive was ostracized and by that action, was taught by peer pressure that the action was wrong. Here, the one person who speaks against intolerance is glared upon, and taught by peer pressure that speaking out that way is wrong. I've also never seen someone get written up for intolerance or otherwise reprimanded, and someone who does not respect the fact that tolerance was important in the workplace, in Florida, would have seen themselves jobless in a heartbeat. The area that I live in, has people who have lived year for untold generations, some of them still living in the homes they had BEFORE the civil war. There are people here in the black community living in the very same quarter mile area that their families went to right after the slaves were freed. I am not exaggerating. This kind of life, where you grow up seeing prejudicial behaviors, and your parents did before you, on BOTH sides, really influences the beliefs of the next generation. Its not nearly as bad in the cities, but in the rural south, it is very much the norm. My area needs a lot of work towards ending discrimination, and thats not prejudice, thats just an unfortunate fact. All areas can improve, but the deep south is probably a good 25+ years behind central Florida in its tolerance of diversity, and there are many people here that are just fine with the way it is. Without desire for change, there cannot be any change.

Of course the song American Idiot might be appropriate in reference to those who are intolerant.

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Are we really??

Sicily was a trading crossroads for the Mediterranean Sea. Stanley isn't completely off base. Sickle cell trait is carried by Greeks, Italians and Africans. This implies at least some genetic intermingling between the peoples of the Mediterranean Sea.

yes you do.

leslie

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Sicilian is a mixture language/dialect. If I remember correctly it has elements of Italian, Spanish, Norman French, Arabic and Greek within its linguistic developmental history.

The language has inherited vocabulary and/or grammatical forms from all of the following: Greek, Latin, Arabic, Norman, Lombard, Provençal, German, Catalan, Spanish and of course Italian, not to mention prehistoric influences from the earliest settlers on the island. The very earliest influences, visible in Sicilian to this day, exhibit both prehistoric Mediterranean elements and prehistoric Indo-European elements, and occasionally a cross-over of both (Giarizzo 1989 and Ruffino 2001).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_language

Specializes in EMS, ER, GI, PCU/Telemetry.
Sicilian is a mixture language/dialect. If I remember correctly it has elements of Italian, Spanish, Norman French, Arabic and Greek within its linguistic developmental history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_language

it's a very romantic sounding dialect. and i do not speak it well. :)

i can speak italian, tho.

Specializes in Medsurg/ICU, Mental Health, Home Health.
regarding the amount of prejudice in the deep south... that is not prejudice that is demographics. i never said that every single person i come in contact with is racist or discriminates against those of other races/religions/sexual preferences.

i wasn't referring to stating you're in an area rich with discrimination. i understand that and feel that it is most unfortunate. however, i do believe that the assumption that the other poster was referring to the deep south reflects a prejudice.

however, there are certain areas of this country where these things are much more out in the open and accepted than others, and the deep south is one of them. not everyone makes racial/religious/orientation offensive comments, but in my time here nobody has ever spoken up and said thats wrong, and i have been ostracized more than once for doing so.

this is very sad. i'm sorry you live in this type of area. i still disagree that a multi-state region could be pigeon-holed based on it, though. it may appear that i'm standing up for the deep south, but i'm standing up for not stereotyping. (i'm from delaware and have always lived here, and i'm ashamed that my state was the last to abolish slavery. also, i called off my own wedding with a fellow who was raised in tennessee and part of our problem was this cultural issue. the day his family found out i wasn't a republican yet "called" myself a christian was a sad one for them. sorry, just wanted to explain my personal side of things.)

my area needs a lot of work towards ending discrimination, and thats not prejudice, thats just an unfortunate fact.

i believe you one hundred percent. it is a sad state of affairs. i'm glad you're there to shake things up a bit, sounds like where you live needs it. i don't think i could put up with it if i were you, i'd probably become frustrated and move if at all possible.

*~jess~*

Specializes in MS, ED.
Regarding the amount of prejudice in the deep south... that is not prejudice that is demographics. I never said that every single person I come in contact with is racist or discriminates against those of other races/religions/sexual preferences.

That's the unfortunate thing about stereotypes. You don't mean to color everyone with that same broad brushstroke, but that's exactly what broad generalizations, (i.e., repeatedly referring to 'the deep south'), tend to do. Count me in as the second person to feel your statement is a bit backhanded when you claim to be speaking for tolerance.

However, there are certain areas of this country where these things are much more out in the open and accepted than others, and the deep south is one of them. Not everyone makes racial/religious/orientation offensive comments, but in my time here NOBODY has ever spoken up and said THATS WRONG, and I have been ostracized more than once for doing so.
That's interesting. That's my experience too, except I live right outside New York City nowadays. The racial tension here is so thick, you can cut it with a knife. People don't stand up here either; they hide their face and walk away before a fight starts. Hate doesn't know a region; it doesn't know a people. It's alive and well...

everywhere.

Where I grew up, the one person who said something racially offensive was ostracized and by that action, was taught by peer pressure that the action was wrong. Here, the one person who speaks against intolerance is glared upon, and taught by peer pressure that speaking out that way is wrong. I've also never seen someone get written up for intolerance or otherwise reprimanded, and someone who does not respect the fact that tolerance was important in the workplace, in Florida, would have seen themselves jobless in a heartbeat.
Where I grew up, we were taught to live to love and respect others as all of God's children. It was a quiet little town with mostly hard-working poor folks, (of all different colors). What I knew as a kid was that we were all painted with the same stripe - POOR.

I moved here - to 'civilization', as people here like to remind me - when I was graduating high school. I was shocked by the hustle and bustle - that people would rush past old ladies on the subway stairs, knocking them to the ground. Someone needing help was ignored as people streamed away. People stepped over homeless folks lying on cold sidewalks to go inside to the fancy lobbies of their condos. Groups of kids, cursing out of both sides of their mouth, vandalized cars on the street at night. Fights on the subway. Assaults at the bus station. The Jewish Rec Center at the corner was repeatedly spray painted with nazi symbols and epithets, (better, local police told me 'you can grab a bucket and a brush' when I reported it.) The church a few blocks down had their Nativity set defaced and broken. People yell, intimidate and bully each other...

but I suppose this is what things should be. How many years are these 'civilized' folks behind, exactly?

Oh, and before I forget: I hear plenty of redneck jokes. Makes it even more sweet when people mimic you and get others to join in on the fun! I also get to listen in on plenty of conversations about the evils of bible thumpers and those gawd-awful Christians. :rolleyes:

Stereotypes, alive and well, about our 'backwoods' roots abound, especially from those so much more 'civilized' as we were.

I am sorry you live in an unpleasant area. So do I!

JMO.

Regards,

Southern

Specializes in Cardiac Nursing.

Southern,

You have hit it on the head. Racism, sterotyping, etc is alive and well everywhere. Unfortunately accepted almost everywhere. Until and unless people everywhere realize that when it comes down to it we are all the same regardless of region, class, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, economic background, etc we as a country will never (as the Army used to say) be all we can be. Alot of it is insidious and quiet, some is in your face obvious depending on where you live. Where I grew up it was quiet, like not being picked for the all star softball team even though you were the winning pitcher from the winning team. Or being one of three black players on the the all star team, but not being able to actually play. Not too obvious, but there because it could be argued there were other reasons why one didn't play a particular game right?

My mom grew up in Louisiana during the 50's all she knew was there were certain places she wasn't allowed to go. My dad being a northener had no clue what segregation really was until he got stationed at Ft. Polk, imagine his culture shock. Guess what, people still live as if segregation still exists in certain places even today. Some people are afraid of change. Some people fight tooth and nail against change. Some people stead fastly hold on to the predjudices and sterotypes they grew up learning. Some do because it makes them feel better.

I wonder if I will still be alive when people realize that we are all human; not black, white, indian, italian, jew, catholic, arab, muslim, hispanic, etc....just human. That no one is better than anyone else, no one's opinion is better than anyone's elses, no one's religion is better than any other. When this happens, perhaps things can actually get done.

Just my 2 cents

Specializes in ICU, Tele,.

I've dealt with this often, working on a post-partum unit, and was very tempted to put a tape recorder in my pocket and send it to Human Resources. This person couldn't stand the # of children Mexican women have and was jealous when she took them out to their car upon D/C, they were rollin' in nice cars Escalades, Lexus, BMW etc...this nurse was a total "Hater". I think Latina Pt. can be some of the best pt. to have, even if they speak English they don't ask for much and it encourages me to brush up on my Spanish.

Specializes in IMCU.
Yesterday I had two nurses make anti-Mexican statements. The first was a new nurse who moved from Montana and made these statements in the medroom. She's having trouble adjusting to the hospital, which does have a considerable Mexican population, but I haven't noticed the Mexicans being particularly difficult patients, they seem to come in all stripes. I made some soothing comments and changed the subject.

The second statement was made during report, I was telling the story of a patient who was a real psychosocial disaster, very difficult, a total drain on society type, we had to move her roomate the woman was so loud, obnoxious and off the wall. She had a Spanish last name so the nurse I reported to made a derogatory remark. I told him that I didn't think this woman was Mexican but was married to one, thus nipping that one in the bud. He made this comment at the nurses station within earshot of everyone! :eek:

Meanwhile, we have Hispanic coworkers galore, most of whom are awesome people! I suppose a few Hispanic workers might also resent non-Hispanics, but I find the whole thing appalling. It always blindsides me! I need to practice a witty comeback, like the fact that my husband's half sisters are half Mexican (true).

How do you guys handle this type of situation?

In my area we have a lot of illegal immigrants along with a lot of legal immigrants from Mexico and Guatemala particularly. We are a very red area in a very red state. It is no longer acceptable here to be openly derrogatory toward blacks, but it is toward hispanics and homosexuals. I find it funny that there are more than a few coworkers who are hispanic, (mostly light skinned and tall) and definately several openly gay and closeted coworkers whom even the most biggoted seem to accept just fine as they need backup from one and all. Yet there seems to be no constraint regarding the statements made by staff about patients either hispanic or homosexual.

I think a lot of it is financially based. Most of these folk just resent illegals (they presume all the hispanic patients) getting free services. You just can't change people. I go out of my way to avoid feeding into this crap but usually feel compelled to remind them that "it is the stance that we should be spending money shipping them out of the country that is costing us. We could solve the immigrant problem easily by handing them an application for a Social Security Card and a green card just this side of the border. But then we wouldn't have anything to whine about! " I won't even dignify the antigay comments with a reply unless I think there is some hope for the person making the remark. Most are just total idgots!

I am the most intolerant of intolerant people!

Mahage

Specializes in IMCU.
Which is why my BF told me point blank not to apply for a job in the deep south. He didn't want to get lynched as he's dating will soon marry a black woman (me). I had to tell him that unfortunately its not just the south anymore, its just more open in the south. Its quiet in the north, which I find worse.

If Ya'll want to life in the south, come to Chatt. Lots of mixed couples here. Much more tolerance for black white interracial relationships than dark skinned hispanics. Predjudice comes from blacks and whites here and so does tolerance and acceptance. We are truely a strange mixture of people and views in this very red area of a red state with a very strong artistic and educated community within. I guess like gravitates toward like here but we are all thrown together work wise. My neighborhood was covered with Obama signs and bumper stickers, yet you would never guess that at the hospital just 8 minutes away.

Mahage

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