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Has anyone seen a circ go really bad? I saw one today where the doc took too much foreskin off and the skin on the shaft ended up "degloving" from the fascia underneath. A urologist had to come in and do "damage control." The people I've talked with say they've never seen anything like this happen before.
Shannon . . the pt. education I give parents mentions the controversy about circumcision. :) To tell the truth I did that on purpose because I think they need all the information. Especially about pain relief . . . I want them to know when that one particular doc takes their son for his circ, their son won't be medicated.Keep in mind all my boys are circ'd, and very happy that they are, think I'm a nut for thinking I was wrong to have them circ'd. I was married to another man with my first two boys and then my second hubby and I had a daughter and then a son . . . . BOTH husbands wanted the boys circ'd.
So, as I mentioned, the funny thing is men seem to be completely ok with circumcision.
It is we moms who are usually the ones questioning it. :)
steph
I think MY concerns, anyhow, stem from knowing there is a lack of ability on my son's part to consent to an elective and very painful procedure. Is he bothered now I did it? I doubt he gives a single thought to it frankly. It's not been discussed at length. Like I said, the three things that bug me about routine infant circ: No consent. Elective. Painful.
Just me I know.
About 20 years ago I saw a bad after a circumcision. Look like the Doc had taken pinking sissors to the end of the member. Same Doc came the following night to do another baby and was drunk, I told him No he wasn't touching that baby .Just thenThe head of OB came in and had the Ped doc thrown out of the nursery.Boy I was glad the OB doc came in.
Needless to say that doc was no longer working at our hospitial after that night,
I read that book. Sadly, as noted, both he and his brother killed themselves. If you read the book, the doctor who took care of their psychological needs was and is a very sick man. The man who ended up being raised as a girl ended up very angry at the doctor who made he and his brother do very weird things during their sessions with him. Dr. Money should be removed from his positon at John's Hopkins and thoroughly discredited - but there he sits. :angryfireI've read the book over a couple of times . .. he forgave his parents in the end but it would have been better if he had been raised the sex he was.
It is a good book but very sad.
steph
I haven't read the book, but would you believe there was an episode of Law and Order similiar to this story. The twins didn't know that they had both been born males.
I haven't read the book, but would you believe there was an episode of Law and Order similiar to this story. The twins didn't know that they had both been born males.
Yes I saw that one on Law and Order MD Was totaly sick person what the Doc did to those boys he should have been jailed .
The stories I've heard about older boys and men "needing" to be circumcized always revolve around an infection under the foreskin. The thing I don't understand is why the docs needed to treat infection with amputation, when antibiotics work fine for most other infections. I think when the majority of doctors thought a circumcized member was the "normal" and "healthier" of the two, they're first inclination when seeing a problem with intact foreskin was to cut it off. I think it would be a rare doc nowadays who would do the same.
My first boy was circumcized because of my fear of him needing to be done later. Fast forward eight years and a lot of research later, we've left our second son intact and I've let my 8 year old know why and that I wish I could go back and undo the decision I made with him. I have friends who think I'm weird to have my boys "different." I'm not going to circumcize Michael just so he'll be like Ray...because frankly, it's not like they're sitting around naked, comparing their memberes all the time, anyway!
Sarah
The law covers any and all such procedures, however minimal.This sounds like Congress has taken this very seriously.
And when have you ever seen the law enforced??
Much like the laws against Bigamy and multiple marriages. In areas of Utah,there are any number of men with more than one wife (some wives under the age of 16) . It may be quite well-known in the community, but as long as they are rarely enforced, the laws make no difference.
The laws against statutory rape are examples, also. There is plenty of data to show many women under the age of legal consent are impregnanted by men that are above the age of consent. Ocasionally, the male gets put in jail but only very rarely, despite there being evidence of the crime.
I think MY concerns, anyhow, stem from knowing there is a lack of ability on my son's part to consent to an elective and very painful procedure. Is he bothered now I did it? I doubt he gives a single thought to it frankly. It's not been discussed at length. Like I said, the three things that bug me about routine infant circ: No consent. Elective. Painful.Just me I know.
I think what has always bothered me is after I researched the subject I could come up with no other reason to do it except Dad wanted it. Funny, they want their sons to look like them but when do infant, toddler or elementary age memberes ever look like Dad's??
The other thing is, I think it hurts and I don't understand the need to hurt a child unnecessarily. I hate watching them.
steph
Just curious but was that back when drs were telling moms to pull the foreskin back little by little from when they were infants. I worry about some idiot changing my little one's diaper and pulling the skin back and tearing it. Thus leading to problems when healing, such as adhesions. Or do you think he was just born like that.
No I never touched his foreskin as I knew better. I don't know if he was born like that or not?
ayndim
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Just curious but was that back when drs were telling moms to pull the foreskin back little by little from when they were infants. I worry about some idiot changing my little one's diaper and pulling the skin back and tearing it. Thus leading to problems when healing, such as adhesions. Or do you think he was just born like that.