What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 26, 2022

4 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:

Not sure but I'm sure Trump would have been able to persuade Canada's weak clown Prime Minister into giving up some formula. Trump placed tariffs on trade with Canada. I'm suprised the PM hasn't made a statement or sent out some formula to add to his self virtue quest.

Trump hated Trudeau. You really think he would suck up to him and beg for baby formula?

All a moot point. I really don't care what Trump would have done or what wouldn't have happened if Trump were President.

Justlookingfornow · May 26, 2022

20 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Trump hated Trudeau. You really think he would suck up to him and beg for baby formula?

All a moot point. I really don't care what Trump would have done or what wouldn't have happened if Trump were President.

When I said Trump would persuade Trudeau, sucking up wasn't what I had in mind.

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 27, 2022

2 hours ago, subee said:

I don't know about the Canada thing but I do know that we received our donation of formula from Switzerland. There was an article today in med news today about how the government flubbed this one starting with undelivered mail in their mailroom. Seems they can't get enough help either. And then the huge behemoth just couldn't get enough employees in the same room at the same time to get off to a quick start. Of course, there is that pesky bacterial problem at the plant in Michigan for which the source hasn't been found. Maybe Trump could have done this a week or two earlier..,maybe not. No profit for him. All I know is that this has exposed problems in the chain of command at the FDA food production arm (different from the drug producing arm) and I can't remember anything similar to this happening before except in the drug world where shortages in anesthetics and anti-hypertensive drugs had become a fairly regular occurring problem. The British helped us out during the "great Propofol shortage" with their version of the drug. Is this a by-product of manufacturing medications strictly through the teeth of capitalism rather than what is good for the public (and the people trying to care for them). Food for thought - aware of the bad pun.

I think there are some protectionist policies at play. Apparently the FDA has long before Biden not approved formulas from certain countries, including some first world countries in Europe.

Along with the perfect storm of covid, a bacterial contamination, supply chains, etc. this happened and would have happened under Trump. However, since Trump isn't president, it's Biden's burden to bear and to fix. It won't be fixed over night.

Justlookingfornow · May 27, 2022

2 hours ago, subee said:

AN ad hominem

Yes. Pointing out grammatical errors in the world of autocorrect establishes ones argument as much an ad hominem does..... It still doesn't.

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 27, 2022

9 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:

When I said Trump would persuade Trudeau, sucking up wasn't what I had in mind.

By saying he was wrong about his trade agreements? Really, Trump admitting he was wrong? Or how would he "persuade Trudeau" in your opinion?

Never mind. I just remembered I don't care.

Justlookingfornow · May 27, 2022

2 hours ago, subee said:

Canada manufactures baby formula, all of which is sent to China. They get the good stuff from us, so, no, they couldn't help us out since they have shortages of their own. Calling Trudeau names doesn't help what is already a lack of an argument here.

I didn't have an argument on the formula shortage so I would agree you are correct,on the lack of an argument. I simply replied to another members comment about what Trump might do or not do.

Justlookingfornow · May 27, 2022

33 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Trump hated Trudeau. You really think he would suck up to him and beg for baby formula?

All a moot point. I really don't care what Trump would have done or what wouldn't have happened if Trump were President.

I was replying to your post in which you mentioned Trump.

I don't care either,he's no longer the POTUS

Justlookingfornow · May 27, 2022

3 minutes ago, Tweety said:

By saying he was wrong about his trade agreements? Really, Trump admitting he was wrong? Or how would he "persuade Trudeau" in your opinion?

Never mind. I just remembered I don't care.

I don't know exactly but it probably wouldn't involve sucking up or admitting to any wrong doing. Perhaps more of a business type interaction.

Right. I don't care either.

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 27, 2022

19 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:

I was replying to your post in which you mentioned Trump.

I don't care either,he's no longer the POTUS

and I was replying to posts that were bringing up Trump.

16 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:

I don't know exactly but it probably wouldn't involve sucking up or admitting to any wrong doing. Perhaps more of a business type interaction.

Right. I don't care either.

He's called Trudeau two-faced and a "far left lunatic". I'm sure Trudeau would have been happy to conduct some type of business transaction with him. He would rather enjoy it I'm sure.

MaybeeRN · May 27, 2022

2 hours ago, MunoRN said:

What are you saying Trump would have done differently?

Trump would have starved to death infants in US custody?

What "illegals" is the Biden administration allowing in?

Seriously? Trump implemented "Remain in Mexico" policy which the Biden administration ended. Trump wouldn't be letting tens of thousands in here every month like the Biden administration does.

subee, MSN, CRNA · May 27, 2022

6 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:

You have no knowledge of my religion. If you were referring to me when you said "your religious persuasion".

I have not imposed my religion to anyone or used religion in any of my post.

However many others have. Seems like a fear or discrimination against someone based on their chosen religion. I can only assume that being of Christian faith. Which seems to be the only religion that anyone can criticize openly.

I do not like the idea of abortion. However I know that it has become part of reproductive health for women. I care for all life,including the pregnant woman so I would not support any restricting as early as 6 weeks. As you have said, DIY abortions will happen and that will cause deaths to some women. Her life is important as well.

I have yet to see a abortion restriction that would prevent a woman from having a life saving proceedure in later pregnancy. As we have established, this is not abortion in the context we are discussing. It would be a early delivery,and would include all attempts to save the life of the fetus/baby.

The woman in the post made a responsible decision about her reproductive health. Now if we could make more people responsible for their own contraception before pregnancy, then this hard choice and risk could be eliminated entirely.

Please don't ask about if birthcontol fails? It does, im living proof, and have a happy healthy failed birthcontrol child, but the vast number of abortions preformed are not because of failed birth control. Or rape or incest.

How do you know that for a fact? I had no idea what your religion was but no surprise there. Religious ideals are not necessarily ethical but if we grew up in America, most people are inculcated into Christianity which happens to very influential in our politics. A significant number of people here aren't Christian and have other religious forms of brainwashing different from yours. But in all of this, you have failed to prove that women are having 3rd trimester abortions and that the few women who might need one should be punished and forced by politicians to endure such psychic or physical consequences. You haven't proved your claim that live babies are being murdered by abortionists so everything else you say is BS.

subee, MSN, CRNA · May 27, 2022

1 hour ago, Justlookingfornow said:

I was replying to your post in which you mentioned Trump.

I don't care either,he's no longer the POTUS

But you just posted that unlike Trump, Biden is allowing tens of thousands of people across the border every month. I am postulating that you do care about Trump, contrary to your "I don't care about Trump. He's not the POTUS anymore," I'm also not finding any evidence of gates being opened ti allow hoards of detainees in. We do still have illegals sneaking in around the ports of entry but that never stops. What do you want us to do? Shoot them? Really, what's your plan here? Trump had plenty of opportunities to have his MAGA crap produced in these countries but he went to China. Ivanka could have had her shoe factories put there. Why should we have to bow to our enemy China? Just to make cheap crap we don't need even cheaper?