What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

Cclm, LPN · Nov 20, 2021

7 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I don't know where you keep getting that only 'white' people can be bigoted or intolerant.

One reason why that's not really a useful criteria is how do you define 'white'? It seems like if your bigoted or intolerant would be the best measure of whether you're bigoted or intolerant.

So don't judge a bigot or racist by the color of their skin but the content of their character? I can agree with that.

There goes the idea that white people are inherently racist then! Or that white people are some how guilty of crimes of people who had the same skin color who they never met and died years ago!!

Cclm, LPN · Nov 20, 2021

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Defaming?

You are welcome to your beliefs about the Proud Boys but your opinion seems to be based in something other than than evidence.

Pride & Prejudice: The Violent Evolution of the Proud Boys

Okay. How is the action of the proud boys in that opinion piece any different than the riots of 2020? Other than they vandalize a government building instead of private citizens property? Or tried to "ruin democracy" by trying to over turn a election in which they did not and didn't even come close?

I mean really? Did anyone really think that they would actually stop the transfer of power to Biden?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 20, 2021

10 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Okay. How is the action of the proud boys in that opinion piece any different than the riots of 2020? Other than they vandalize a government building instead of private citizens property? Or tried to "ruin democracy" by trying to over turn a election in which they did not and didn't even come close?

I mean really? Did anyone really think that they would actually stop the transfer of power to Biden?

Deflection...talking about Proud Boys and you're trying to take the focus on the rioters of BLM when that's not the topic. Is there one person in this thread that said the BLM riots and destruction of property was okay? And yes the destruction of BLM protests were worse than any number of things done by White Supremacists.

That's kind of like saying well at least Bundy didn't kill as many people as Little.

And no, no one thought the government was going to be overthrown. Does that make it okay that they were bound to fail and they didn't kill as many people as BLM? I'm sure you don't think so but why deflect to something irrelevant to the conversation.

subee, MSN, CRNA · Nov 20, 2021

38 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I do. Is there a point to that?

Luckily there's not really a need to have to trust any of those sources, you can review the evidence for yourself that comes directly from the source(s).

One can always emigrate to another country if the liberal MSM is too much to bear. I don't know where that would be.......

toomuchbaloney · Nov 20, 2021

58 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I mean really? Did anyone really think that they would actually stop the transfer of power to Biden?

Maybe some people did believe or hope that there would be no transfer of power. There's a bipartisan committee investigating that.

Cclm, LPN · Nov 20, 2021

2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Deflection...talking about Proud Boys and you're trying to take the focus on the rioters of BLM when that's not the topic. Is there one person in this thread that said the BLM riots and destruction of property was okay? And yes the destruction of BLM protests were worse than any number of things done by White Supremacists.

That's kind of like saying well at least Bundy didn't kill as many people as Little.

And no, no one thought the government was going to be overthrown. Does that make it okay that they were bound to fail and they didn't kill as many people as BLM? I'm sure you don't think so but why deflect to something irrelevant to the conversation.

I'm happy with you describing BLM rioters as rioters that's progress. Sure I deflected. I made a comment with the anticipation of reply I would get.

I have no problem with calling out any type of supremacist racist. They are all evil POS. I'm not sure where I said I thought one was better than the other?

2 hours ago, subee said:

One can always emigrate to another country if the liberal MSM is too much to bear. I don't know where that would be.......

I have dual citizenship so I do not have to immigrate. . Where in the US do you suggest? Rumor has it the US loves Canadian Nurses.

Cclm, LPN · Nov 20, 2021

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Maybe some people did believe or hope that there would be no transfer of power. There's a bipartisan committee investigating that.

People can hope and believe whatever they want. Freedom!

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 20, 2021

10 hours ago, Cclm said:

How does looting Nike and designer hand bags avenge social injustice? Mad or not?

It doesn't and violence and looting accomplishes nothing and makes no statement that society receives in a positive way. I was opposing the idea that they were doing it in the name of justice and the poster that I quoted stated. They were doing in the name of the lack of justice.

Long before BLM in 1996 here in St. Petersburg, FL there was looting, arson and violence after a police officer shot and killed an unarmed black man. The officers involved were cleared. No way no how was that violence and looting justified and it turns out the guy was in a stolen car and had drugs but was unarmed. However, it was a huge wake up call because it seems the mayor and everyone was shocked there was this much bubbling anger in the African American neighborhood here. It sparked a lot of change, investigation into the Department and conversation and investment in the community and we haven't had anything on that scale since. I wish it didn't happen that way. But glad the conversation started.

I hate the violence of the BLM protests overshadows what they were trying to accomplish. That the protestors became the enemy that vigilante groups decided they needed to take up arms and defend people and businesses from. But glad the conversation was started.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 20, 2021

11 hours ago, Cclm said:

Nope. IMO. Never said I knew more. With the recent actions of the FBI and the recent behaviors and past behaviors of the Prime Minister , I find my personal trust in each is lacking.

Did you know our MSM in Canada is directly funded by the Liberal Trudeau government? He and his party often ban independent media at their new presses or anywhere they may be asked a question they do not like? Also he only does interviews with these news outlets that the government funds. There for I do not fully trust anything the Canadian government says.

I did not know that about the MSM in Canada but you are saying it is "directly funded" as if the MSM in Canada is government run rather than independent and I don't think that's true. I believe Canada has a free press.

But I can appreciate that one questions what they hear and read.

There's a lot of people in America that don't trust the mainstream media either. They are "the enemy of the people". NPR gets 2% of their budget from the government and there were calls to defend that when they reported that Trump did not speak out on Kenosha. If the press is criticizing whom they like, and idea they believe in, then it's "fake news".

subee, MSN, CRNA · Nov 20, 2021

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I did not know that about the MSM in Canada but you are saying it is "directly funded" as if the MSM in Canada is government run rather than independent and I don't think that's true. I believe Canada has a free press.

But I can appreciate that one questions what they hear and read.

There's a lot of people in America that don't trust the mainstream media either. They are "the enemy of the people". NPR gets 2% of their budget from the government and there were calls to defend that when they reported that Trump did not speak out on Kenosha. If the press is criticizing whom they like, and idea they believe in, then it's "fake news".

I have to believe that people who criticize NPR don't actually listen to it. The Friday Roundup and the round table debates always include people with opposing point of views. But these programs actually involve some thinking so they may be to difficult for those who like to be told what to believe.

toomuchbaloney · Nov 20, 2021

3 hours ago, Tweety said:

I hate the violence of the BLM protests overshadows what they were trying to accomplish

That was the intent and goal of a good deal of the violence...the FBI and other policing agencies described non BLM individuals engaged in the violence...a strategy of accelerating animus between police and blacks and generating chaos that will result in a new government. It's a strategy used by tyrants.

https://www.fpri.org/article/2020/04/the-growing-threat-posed-by-accelerationism-and-accelerationist-groups-worldwide/

Balbaroy · Nov 20, 2021

3 hours ago, subee said:

I have to believe that people who criticize NPR don't actually listen to it. The Friday Roundup and the round table debates always include people with opposing point of views. But these programs actually involve some thinking so they may be to difficult for those who like to be told what to believe.

I tend to read or pay attention to NPR and BBC more than any other mainstream news organization. Not saying that NPR/BBC is technically better than all others, just seem to get a more clear picture from them than others...