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7 hours ago, Cclm said:

You have been indoctrinated. 

Well, I haven't.  I've been waiting since November when Trump was still President for the evidence that he won the election.  I've said over and over again if the Democrats somehow got together secretly in election many places around the country from Pennsylvania to Georgia to Arizona to steal the election, that would be the greatest scandal in history, a bitter pill to swallow but I can handle the truth.

Show me the proof.  It's gone to the courts and the courts can't really find the proof unless they too are corrupt.  I don't get it.

Republicans are in power in many states and have wanted investigations, recounts, and recounts again.  They've gotten all that, and filled law suits.  Still nothing.  

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/13/politics/judge-dismisses-ballot-review-case-georgia/index.html

There is this.  Which is fair.  I'm not sure they've proven that Trump won the election or that they were shredding evidence of Trump's election win.

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After 20 years of documented failure in Fulton County elections, Georgians are tired of waiting to see what the next embarrassing revelation will be,” Mr Raffensperger said in a press release Monday.

“The Department of Justice needs to take a long look at what Fulton County is doing and how their leadership disenfranchises Fulton voters through incompetence and malfeasance."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/georgia-fulton-county-election-shredding-b1937143.html

Trump is still on the campaign trail touting his baseless claims.  The agenda is clear and that's to keep this myth alive as it mobilizes his fervent supporters and base.  Even if they are saying "well I don't now what to believe" or "we'll never be".  The seeds of doubt are there.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/sep/21/government-shutdown-democrats-spending-plans-joe-biden-covid-latest-news-us-politics

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3 hours ago, Tweety said:

Well, I haven't.  I've been waiting since November when Trump was still President for the evidence that he won the election.  I've said over and over again if the Democrats somehow got together secretly in election many places around the country from Pennsylvania to Georgia to Arizona to steal the election, that would be the greatest scandal in history, a bitter pill to swallow but I can handle the truth.

Show me the proof.  It's gone to the courts and the courts can't really find the proof unless they too are corrupt.  I don't get it.

Republicans are in power in many states and have wanted investigations, recounts, and recounts again.  They've gotten all that, and filled law suits.  Still nothing.  

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/13/politics/judge-dismisses-ballot-review-case-georgia/index.html

There is this.  Which is fair.  I'm not sure they've proven that Trump won the election or that they were shredding evidence of Trump's election win.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/georgia-fulton-county-election-shredding-b1937143.html

Trump is still on the campaign trail touting his baseless claims.  The agenda is clear and that's to keep this myth alive as it mobilizes his fervent supporters and base.  Even if they are saying "well I don't now what to believe" or "we'll never be".  The seeds of doubt are there.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/sep/21/government-shutdown-democrats-spending-plans-joe-biden-covid-latest-news-us-politics

Well it keeps him relevant so he can sell merchandise on his website and fool the idiots into donations!

I mean what else does he have. He's made such a fool of himself that he's practically toxic! Which businesses would associate themselves with him. He's business suicide! 

In Florida at least, he's the "Swamp Thing" 

When he hooks up with DeSantis, Gaetz and Rubio, they'll be doing a "Four Horsemen Apocalypse" tour! 

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12 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Coincidence yet you mentioned it as if it was suspicious of evidence of wrong doing.  I'm not surprised that you don't want to argue about voter fraud after making the completely false suggestion that voter fraud was a problem in the last election.  How can you argue about voter fraud when you have no evidence of voter fraud to use in argument?

You should test your theory/assumption and actually provide even a shred of evidence that the election was stolen from Trump. Otherwise, those type remarks simply smack of projection. 

 

I said in my original comment that was  not to you that I did not think there was fraud, so why would I argue something I do not believe?  However I am happy I provided an outlet for your repetitive rant.  I also know that if there were strange happenings like noted above the demos would be holding multiple congressional hearings and claiming PTSD. 

I do believe that the deceitful demoncrats exploited the pandemic and that's what "stole" the election from Trump. I can understand with a president who can't even get his wife's name right, no words will be taken litterally by demos. 

1 hour ago, Curious1997 said:

Well it keeps him relevant so he can sell merchandise on his website and fool the idiots into donations!

I mean what else does he have. He's made such a fool of himself that he's practically toxic! Which businesses would associate themselves with him. He's business suicide! 

In Florida at least, he's the "Swamp Thing" 

When he hooks up with DeSantis, Gaetz and Rubio, they'll be doing a "Four Horsemen Apocalypse" tour! 

Trump 2024!  ??

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12 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I generally find your posts to at least be based in reality, I don't agree with all of it but also don't disagree with all of it.

But your claim that all that happened on January 6th was a wearing horns and buffalo skin is disappointingly detached from reality. 

Yes, that is correct.

But also saying that the mob was trying to overthrow the govt is also detached from reality.

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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

Well, I haven't.  I've been waiting since November when Trump was still President for the evidence that he won the election.  I've said over and over again if the Democrats somehow got together secretly in election many places around the country from Pennsylvania to Georgia to Arizona to steal the election, that would be the greatest scandal in history, a bitter pill to swallow but I can handle the truth.

Show me the proof.  It's gone to the courts and the courts can't really find the proof unless they too are corrupt.  I don't get it.

Republicans are in power in many states and have wanted investigations, recounts, and recounts again.  They've gotten all that, and filled law suits.  Still nothing.  

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/13/politics/judge-dismisses-ballot-review-case-georgia/index.html

There is this.  Which is fair.  I'm not sure they've proven that Trump won the election or that they were shredding evidence of Trump's election win.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/georgia-fulton-county-election-shredding-b1937143.html

Trump is still on the campaign trail touting his baseless claims.  The agenda is clear and that's to keep this myth alive as it mobilizes his fervent supporters and base.  Even if they are saying "well I don't now what to believe" or "we'll never be".  The seeds of doubt are there.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/sep/21/government-shutdown-democrats-spending-plans-joe-biden-covid-latest-news-us-politics

I never said it was stolen. I believe there was less than honest campaigning and covid had allot to do with his loss. 

I do not think you are indoctrinated Tweety. I do not agree with you all the time but I do think you have a good heart. 

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24 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Yes, that is correct.

But also saying that the mob was trying to overthrow the govt is also detached from reality.

And the theatrics involved? Nauseating.  Special congressional hearings with AOC accusing Cruz of "trying to kill her" and she wasn't even near the area of the building. While many cities burn and nothing is done. Or Jan. 6 rioters locked away no bail but individuals involved in a gang shooting where people died are not charged because of "mutual combat! 

If it wasn't for the fact people are being hurt and having their rights violated, I would sit back and watch the magic. If demos think that people are not waking up or are too stupid to notice, well Biden approval rates can be filed in their big fat fail folder with all their other files. 

Oh my favorite, " Jan. 6 was worse than Sept. 11". Lmao 

 

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12 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Your suggestion is that Trump actually won because you were supposedly given 5 mail-in ballots?  If this occurred and altered the results of the election in Biden't favor, why is there no evidence that democrats altered election results by sending in multiple mail-in ballots?

For someone who frequently references the Nazi party, often for reasons that aren't completely clear, it's a bit surprising that you're utilizing a tactic of the Nazi party which was to sow distrust in the results of democratic elections.

Yes. My short sentence about ballots is in par with a Nazi tactic. Got me. Do you not think that's a little bit insulting to the millions of people who died? So for now on if I say the word "ballot" that word is not not allowed because ballots are used  in  elections and Nazis tried to instill doubt through elections and elections have ballots which means a Nazi tactic? 

I didn't suggest that the election was stolen., I thought it was a funny coincidence.  I never said that's why I thought he lost the election because of that. Didn't Hillary claim the same? Or Gore who even got a recount?  That the election was stolen from them? Oh but they were demos so the rule doesn't apply to them. Right.....

I've been called a Nazi and a white supremacist numerous times. This is a tactic used by activist to shut down speech. I will assume that's not what you were trying to do with your comment. They know nobody wants to be called that(especially white people, kinda destroys the narrative that they all have latent racism by virtue of their skin color) to shut down speech. Sounds kind of like well, Nazi Germany . Except if you have a different opinion, they killed you instead of calling you a name. 

This works though. How many people have had their lives destroyed because of something they said that was taken out of context? 

Slowly people are not tolerating this. It is losing it effect. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Cclm said:

And the theatrics involved? Nauseating.  Special congressional hearings with AOC accusing Cruz of "trying to kill her" and she wasn't even near the area of the building. While many cities burn and nothing is done. Or Jan. 6 rioters locked away no bail but individuals involved in a gang shooting where people died are not charged because of "mutual combat! 

If it wasn't for the fact people are being hurt and having their rights violated, I would sit back and watch the magic. If demos think that people are not waking up or are too stupid to notice, well Biden approval rates can be filed in their big fat fail folder with all their other files. 

Oh my favorite, " Jan. 6 was worse than Sept. 11". Lmao 

 

I've got a buddy that listens to right wing talk radio constantly and the utter bollocks he spouts is amazing. AND the dude is such a hypocrite! 

Goes to church and spews the Jesus *** and then ogles every female in eyesight! He brings his friends over and it's the same ***! Mindless idiots. One drives a loud Harley and when I told him to leave it outside of my construction yard's gate, he wanted to fight! I should have knocked him straight out of his shoes but I just laughed at him and let his buddies inform him about who he was dealing with. 

Mindless idiots! Anything above three syllables is a stretch, but they are amusing. Like going to the zoo and watching really crude creatures! 

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14 hours ago, Beerman said:

Haha....a unarmed man wearing horns and buffalo skin is a legit attempt at overthrowing the govt? 

Wow. If that member knows of an attempt to "blame a minority for all the ills and eradicate them", that sounds like genocide. I hope that she's reported that . 

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5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Yes, that is correct.

But also saying that the mob was trying to overthrow the govt is also detached from reality.

That's what your social media and news outlets have you believing.  Of course, that notion that there was no nefarious intent is a simplistic view which discounts; 1) why the rioters assembled on that day in that place and then violently breached Capitol security, 2) what the stated purpose of the rioters entering the Capitol included, and 3) all of the evidence of Trump's attempt to subvert the state election results through the DOJ and federal intimidation from the executive branch.  

Trump was trying to overthrow the government, the mob was a willing and enthusiastic part of his strategy. 

Trump’s Plans for a Coup Are Now Public

When you engage with media outside of the "conservative" POV you will learn that you aren't getting many of the details about what happened because they reflect so poorly upon Trump and GOP leadership. 

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6 hours ago, Cclm said:

I also know that if there were strange happenings like noted above the demos would be holding multiple congressional hearings and claiming PTSD.

What strange happenings? Please be specific. Your hypothetical speculation is noted but not really relevant to current events. 

5 hours ago, Cclm said:

Oh my favorite, " Jan. 6 was worse than Sept. 11". Lmao 

Coup attempts and insurrection incited by a  lame duck president who won't concede election loss is, in fact, a big deal.  Unless, of course, you don't really know what happened on that day, believe lies about the election and think that Trump only lost because democrats cheated...then you likely wouldn't bat an eye at the nature of those historical events and what they represent in terms of threat to our republic.  That is simply further evidence of the anti democratic beliefs of the current GOP and their voting base. IMV

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4 hours ago, Cclm said:

I didn't suggest that the election was stolen., I thought it was a funny coincidence.  I never said that's why I thought he lost the election because of that. Didn't Hillary claim the same? Or Gore who even got a recount?  That the election was stolen from them? Oh but they were demos so the rule doesn't apply to them. Right.....

Provide some evidence of this false equivalents that you've offered.  You've obviously heard or understand from your media consumption that there's no difference between Trump not conceding and inciting a mob to Clinton or Gore.  Share that media with us so that we can understand why you believe such things.  Who tells you that sort of stuff.. or do you read it somewhere? Give us a link. 

 

4 hours ago, Cclm said:

So for now on if I say the word "ballot" that word is not not allowed because ballots are used  in  elections and Nazis tried to instill doubt through elections and elections have ballots which means a Nazi tactic? 

You didn't understand, possibly as a strategy.  When you diminish and question the trustworthiness of American elections you are engaging in exactly the same type of Anti-Democratic behavior of the Nazi and other authoritarian groups who have subverted democracies.  The history is very clear and compelling on this topic.  I could recommend a couple good books on the topic if you are interested. 

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