What States are NOT recognizing EC Grads?...

Boston-RN, RN · May 23, 2007

I had emailed EC in March and this was the response I go....

" since you are an lpn/vn now, when you complete our program, the

only state right now you will not be able to have licensure in is MD, and

we are trying to work with that board and you would have to have RN hours to endorse into CA, IL and VT and a few others. If you are planning on moving please call me and we can discuss any states that you are interested in but right now it is only MD that you couldn't eventually have licensure and we are trying to deal with this board as we speak."

And as others have posted....CA if you enrolled after a certain date.

SuesquatchRN, BSN, RN · May 23, 2007

I had emailed EC in March and this was the response I go....
" since you are an lpn/vn now, when you complete our program, the
only state right now you will not be able to have licensure in is MD, and
we are trying to work with that board and you would have to have RN hours to endorse into CA, IL and VT and a few others. If you are planning on moving please call me and we can discuss any states that you are interested in but right now it is only MD that you couldn't eventually have licensure and we are trying to deal with this board as we speak."
And as others have posted....CA if you enrolled after a certain date.

So you can endorse into CA? That's interesting. Seems like one'd have to commute to AZ or NV for a bit. And it pleases me. There's an off chance we could end up living there - grandchildren - and it's good to know my RN hours here in NY could be used.

NYSNOWBUNNY007 · May 24, 2007

thats actually really good news...and many here say that CA has definitely stopped accepting EC grads..now this is new to me about endorsing after a few hours..i don't know..hope it all works out!...XoXo

success1 · May 24, 2007

Does MI accept EC Grads?

success1 · May 24, 2007

Does MI and OH accept EC Grads?

success1 · May 24, 2007

Does MI and OH accept EC Grads?

RN34TX · May 28, 2007

IL is one state that does NOT accept the EC grad. The reason is that per the IL Dept of Public Regulation, the classes and clinicals must be CONCURRENT. I don't look to IL accepting EC grads anytime soon.

Once again, that is not entirely true.

Don't mean to be rude in any way, but I do get tired of that being repeated on this forum over and over.

Excelsior grads who have at least two years of clinical nursing experience as an RN ARE accepted for licensure in IL and I personally know two of them who are licensed in IL as RN's. This is clearly stated on the IL BNE website and specifically speaks to EC grads and their eligibility for RN licensure so why people keep saying that IL doesn't accept EC grads is beyond me.

Getting licensed as an RN as a new grad and getting endorsed into a state as an experienced RN are two different things.

It is very inaccurate to make a blanket statement that IL does not accept EC grads because they are well alive and working in IL as RN's.

NYSNOWBUNNY007 · May 28, 2007

Thank you so much for the clarification!!...sometimes reading through the threads you get ten different stories...lol...thank you...XoXo

rigmedic · May 29, 2007

That is very good news. NC accepts Excelsior new grads, so that isn't a problem for me. I am interested in travelling someday down the road, so I was a bit worried about which states I would not be able to work in as an experienced RN. You have settled my mind. Thanks.

Larabelle · Jun 23, 2007

EC graduates are accepted at all Veterans administration hospitals in all 50 states.

sarmedic70 · Jun 24, 2007

Hey all. Kinda late to this forum. Haven't checked in the EC specific sites to see what the "latest and greatest" is since graduating from EC's nursing program nearly a year ago. Since graduating and also being licensed, I can tell you this much from my own personal experience(s). First of all I live (and work) in UT............I have an endorsement to my UT license from Indiana. Absolutely NO problems whatsoever, as a relatively new grad and newly licensed RN in getting that indorsement. Had absolutely NO problems (and no questions asked) in obtaining my UT license. What I have encountered and resistance met (and questions asked as a result of being an EC graduate) have been from some various hospitals.........the University of Utah is one in particular. I had been told, flat out, by a staff RN that the "U" will NOT hire an EC grad at all. When in the EC nursing program, had heard rumours of that (nearly three years ago) but that they "lost" when the actually found out about the EC program, it is NLN approved et al. HOWEVER, the "catch" is (and how they are getting around hiring EC grads) is due to the fact we do not have "formal" clinicals (forget the fact we can only get into the EC nursing program with experience (real world) in the first place)........That was something I was asked in an interview I had a couple or so months ago. And when explained that I have REAL WORLD experience as a medic, well then "narrowed" it down to "nursing experience".....hmmmmmmmmmmm.........clinicals are actual "nursing experience".....of course, I had also done work as a nurses aid; however.....................Anyway, they ahve posted on their job sites something to the effect of 400 hours of clinical hours in an approved nursing program OR 2000 hours (something like that) of nursing experience (my hours could be off for the latter, but it was quite lengthy no matter). Even though their job announcements say "new grads" welcome, well.............I know there are ways around all of this though.............networking with those already on the inside of which what I have been doing.....................on the other hand, there is another hospital here that hires EC grads all the time (I had heard that their DON is an EC grad...................)...........and one of my study buddies got hired on there and "they" were very impressed with her and her abilities that "they" have asked her to get some of the rest of us in our study group to come to this hospital, bonuses offered, et al.

When asked about EC, I tell them about the CPNE and explain the entire process to them....................(I had a DON tell me that she seriously doubted she could pass it or some of the other RNs).............when they don't "buy" into the CPNE aspects of how it is, then I simply say that it is NOT the school that makes a good nurse or bad nurse but the individual and what he/she brings to the table....................I bring it down to earth even moreso and bring it to home, with a major reality check......medication errors and other errors that are commonly committed.............so those who commit medication errors are soley from EC or do they possibly have come from other nursing schools, had all of these "clinical hours", et al............? That ends the discussion of generally: "I guess you are right about that and what you say is true!".................I think, if statistics were broken down by "schools" in the various errors committed in nursing practice, EC would be the lowest (I know, probably a bold statement being made here) in that, as I told one of my coordinators, we have a LOT more to prove in that we automatically are judged, come into nursing with a "handicap" because we are NOT of tradition, and so forth..............and it should not be that way. IF we are being "judged" because of our school and not how we practice, that is so sad and disrespectful....and the reality of it is, start looking around all of us, and see that it is the TRADITIONAL programs that are producing bad nurses as well......................."enuff said!".............

We ALL need to get that "reality check" out there and bring it down to brass tax and bare bones facts as stated above..............."hit below the belt" sort of..................With working some of the "new" RNs out of "traditional" programs, I would take an EC RN over them any ole day......they work harder 'cause they have to "prove" something and know they are under the microscope, for the most part possess considerably more amount in common sense and maturity........for starters............

OK, have written a "book" here....sorry................lots more I could "discuss".................perhaps another time and date................

One common comment, that bears weight, that I picked up on, personally talk to the various state SBN's directly and get the facts directly from them. Things are constantly changing. I have heard, of recent months, CA is nearly paying people to go to EC due to the extreme nursing shortage there (I heard about this approx 2 mos ago........haven't seen the "Facts" on it for sure at the moment though)....................

Cheers

C :-)

UT RN/Medic