I don't know if it's only me seeing/reading these posts here like "I don't know what to do", "I can't find a job", "looking for work several years with no experience", etc. It is sad to say that dreams of going abroad to the US will be halted for several years. I am not even sure if the 5 years would be enough. It could be even more. As I have been observed here and from my colleagues, taking the NCLEX, CFGNS, IELTS, has been like a mandatory for them to take not knowing the real scenario ahead.
I have been doing some thinking lately that there should be something done or information being spread to BSN graduates. I think with the cooperation of everybody especially Filipino RNs in the US can contribute. If it takes a sticky with bold capital letters saying retrogression is on going. I think it can be done for starters. It is really unfortunate to hear such remarks from fellow colleagues who are losing hope and distracted in their nursing career. Appropriate Nursing diagnosis would be Knowledge Deficient. Anybody feels the same way? Do you have any more ideas?
For those nursing students, newly BSN graduates, RNs with or without experience, please let us know your short term or long term concrete plans. Any plans you have in mind, post it here. I know a lot of people here are willing to give information or guide you in achieving those plans.
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how ambitious and grandeur those plans are...i really hope they get to see the shine of reality and that I too can have that much hope to have plans as big as those...
well, as for me, I am starting to see the effect of massive miscalculations and erroneous information being fed up to young minds to get nursing as their course of choice in college (WHICH IS TOTALLY JUST A MEAN FOR COLLEGES TO GET PROFIT -a business strategy I assume).
I, for one, gave up the very dream I dreamed of becoming just to get nursing. Well, you might say I am a loser for having been influenced on my decision and to have taken something that I do not like in the very first place. Well, prior to everything, I do not like nursing, but as i get to know it better, I started loving it and if I will be asked to choose again, not a single doubt would I choose nursing again. Second, if you came from a developing country like ours, "heavenly or majestic opportunities" like how they put nursing on the advertisement, is something that you will consider worth trying just to get better future and to help your family from all the mess of poverty.
However, as we talk of big plans here, maybe, some reality check is appropriate so as to make those plans feasible as possible. I am a june 2007 board passer. I graduated with flying colors. I came from a very dignified and respected universities. Got a fair result on the board exam and yet, with that much to give in, I am as of the moment still unemployed. For that, I have felt that I have been very insignificant and that my life has starting to loose some light...
Am I too picky? or don't I have the patience? or perhaps, I may have not given more than enough? Well, you can think of that, but I have volunteered in a district hospital, in a provincial hospital, and I got a training in one of the biggest and JCI accredited hospitals in the Philipines for 1 full month. Got an IV license. Got a BLS training. and some other basic stuffs...
Few might say, it is all about competition...that if you are incompetent, then, you don't belong to anywhere...Well, to all of those who think that way, you should better try to look again. I have been trained in one of the most prestigious hospitals in the Philippines...I passed the qualifying exam (500 took it, only 70 passed)...got into the interview and all the way up to the training. During the training, I got good feedbacks from my clinical instructors. Got praised for a well presented case study at the end of the program etc. But then, after finishing it, to my surprise, those with "BACKERS" or someone internally connected to the company, got processed and hired first without any consideration whatsoever. (They applied February 2008, I applied Octoboer 2007. Some don't even have the license since they just took the December 07 board). Now, that is how you define COMPETENT...in a country like ours (it may sound ugly and may hurt some here, but truthfully) decency has a very little place in our local system. Considering that it was a JCI accredited hospital...
as to other hospitals, I also have pending applications with them...but hey, look, it is TIME that I am wasting...are poor people privileged enough to waste precious thing as TIME? I highly doubt it...
now, to plan for the future is something I think present cannot afford to accommodate anymore. with so much frustrations and heartaches, I even can't look into my past with dignity anymore...Where has this job gotten me?
i am just a simple individual...all i wanted is to have a place to fit in...somewhere that i can practice everything i know...and to find that...is the only plan, if ever i will have, that i will consider worth planning.
as of the moment, i have 3 pending contract signings to 3 of the big call center companies in the Philippines...I actually am considering the word, "give it all up" as of the moment. Desperate but true...
I'm a fresh graduate of march 2008, recently pass the board exam last june 2008. Actually, I have not have a any post graduate work experience yet and I'm still on the process of applying in one of the hopsitals here in Iloilo. I may not have the right to say this, since I have not experience your difficulties, but I don't think it's time to give up. Giving up would just waste all the things you've work hard for all this years. Might I suggest, you go to some provinces to find work? Because here in Iloilo, there are many available nursing jobs if you'll take time to look for it. I'm not saying that you go here, but why not try the provinces close to where you are? I think there are more competitive nurses in manila than in the provinces. Well, goodluck...
what have we gotten ourselves into? being a nurse these days means that you will be exploited by hospitals, shun by international hospitals due to immigration issues, unemployed, and left to ponder of what should be, can be, would be.
most of us are on the same boat. we invested so much time, money, and effort in this profession that we love only to find out that there are no jobs for us.
what can we do now? hope. wait. persevere. focus on the goal and simply survive all the challenges.
depressing. sad. but that's how it is. :thnkg::sasq:
Hey.. Do n0t lose hope. You are almost there. You already have what most of us are trying desperately to get - experience and trainings. If you didn't get in to the hospital of your choice because of their lousy hiring system, do not get discouraged. Try other hospitals. You have awesome credentials, i'm sure you'll get noticed by them. You've sacrificed a lot already and it would be a shame for you to stop and throw it all away.
that is how a nurse should treat a fellow man especially if he is down in the dumps, you have all the requirements to work in an overseas hospital and earn big bucks,i think being a call center agent will go against everything you had done in the past few years, why don't you get yourself a cold beer and contemplate on the blessings you have right now and then decide what you really want for yourself, all nurses now is in a way depress in the current situation of employment may it be here or abroad.you will eventually find that being a nurse is not all about the money and it is about helping our brethren in their time of need.good luck to you and good luck to all of us chasing our dreams and aspirations
Hey.. Do n0t lose hope. You are almost there. You already have what most of us are trying desperately to get - experience and trainings. If you didn't get in to the hospital of your choice because of their lousy hiring system, do not get discouraged. Try other hospitals. You have awesome credentials, i'm sure you'll get noticed by them. You've sacrificed a lot already and it would be a shame for you to stop and throw it all away.
Best of luck to you, me, and all nurses here! =)
thank you happy_peanuts! it's better to hear/read it from someone who can understand the challenges of nurses these days. best of luck indeed to all of on the same boat... some day, we will find our way....
keep focus and eventually will have what we prayed for...
we cn all be successful as long as we're committed and passionate on our craft because we can never be tired and patiently wait even all things are fast approaching...
what have we gotten ourselves into? being a nurse these days means that you will be exploited by hospitals, shun by international hospitals due to immigration issues, unemployed, and left to ponder of what should be, can be, would be.
most of us are on the same boat. we invested so much time, money, and effort in this profession that we love only to find out that there are no jobs for us.
what can we do now? hope. wait. persevere. focus on the goal and simply survive all the challenges.
depressing. sad. but that's how it is. :thnkg::sasq:
....very correct, i strongly agree, sad but true :cry:
Hi RN's I heard that there is a good opportunity for registerd Nurses in Singapore. My friends from Philippines are working in Singapore as Nurse and said is much easier to go over to UK, US or Canada from Singapore.
Hi RN's I heard that there is a good opportunity for registerd Nurses in Singapore. My friends from Philippines are working in Singapore as Nurse and said is much easier to go over to UK, US or Canada from Singapore.
Your friend is not giving you all of the information. Singapore requires that you have at least two years of paid experience as an RN before they will consider you for that role there.
It is not any easier to go to another country, except for having experience; anything having to do with visas and it is based on where you were born, not where you would be living prior to going to the new country.
Recommend that you do some reading about working in the other countries, much can be found under the International Forum that you should be aware of.
i know we are all struggling but as for me there are good and bad news that goes hand and hand and i think nurses are not just trained to take care of patients but at the same time use some of that therapeutic skills we gained in school to apply it in our lives
after passing the NLE in june 2006 i went to vancouver bc wherein im a permanent resident and gave birth to a beautiful baby...afterwards moved to reno nevada with my husband but first as tourist in the US
i applied at renown health and talked to the human resource and advised to post my resume on any jobs listed that may interest me
had couple calls from orthopedic and nephro department-needless to say got my first interview with the orthopedic supervisor and head nurse and called me the next day that i was hired
now there's a job, but my Interim Permit came a month later and i didnt have my Social Security Number yet..so i was introduced to an immigration agent that helped me and maybe in a little bit over than 6 months my EAD or emloyment authorization document=work visa arrived
applied for my SSN for work but here's the challenge i took my first nclex exam with lack of preparation thinking everything was stoc knowledge and all i had were Canadian Board reviewers from my mom whose an Canadian RN-needless to say i failed =(
so this time i went to a review school at Univ of NEvada Reno with Hurst review and my knowledge and understanding improved..
it's very different from the philippine approach bec when i went to school in the phils i can see that it was tailored to public community health nursing etc..
so with a better understanding this time and still weak in pharmacology and test taking strategy on my 2nd attempt i failed but this time majority of my subjects example management and delegation were near passing...
evaluation were only categorized into 3 levels below, near or above the passing grade and when you get your result it's either pass or fail and no percentage whatsoever
so i maybe a little bit frustrated but i saw some improvement and we just continue moving forward
and im slowly studying until i get my next authorization to test
i have researched and planning on taking suzanne's plan here so tc everyone and let's all be optimistic and we will all get there with patience and tenacity and of course with God's help...:redpinkhe
i want to comment on the one that said that he will just try a call center because of the desperate times that nurses have right now looking for nursing jobs. I just want to share my experience though. I am a second courser and while I was studying i was working in a call center. In fact Ive been to three. Started as an agents and rose to the ranks of a floor supervisor. All of this while studying, I passed the NLE last june 2007, the nclex last august 2008, the ielts last september. As for me i have 0 experience. Why? Because I had the comfort zone of having a very good income, a prestigious job, great colleagues, etc. As i look back, I feel that I have wasted time because it really depends on what you really want, why you took up nursing in the first place.
ME? Admittedly, I took up nursing because of the chance to earn big bucks abroad. That's why I was disheartened to see the lack of nursing jobs and the exploitation done by hospitals and health institutions in the country right now. That's why I chose to stay with my job, earning good, but always thinking and "nanghihinayang" sa course/profession ko.
it all really depends on what you want. Is it a job or a career? As for me I want a career. that's why Ive decided to give up my job and start next week as a trainee in one of the hospitals here in PAsig. The pay is WAY smaller, but if you would look at the end of the tunnel one would see that this would only be a stepping stone to our dreams in the near future. MAybe I was fortunate to have landed a job as a trainee (after applying at countless hospitals... too many to mention here, and I lost count heheh)and eventual staff nurse after 3 months but that's beside the point. The point I am trying to make is that the decision you are about to make will determine the course of your life. Believe me, Call center life is no bed of roses, you may earn big, but as a career? I dont think so. I've suffered ill health, lack of social life, If youre looking at the short term, go ahead but if youre looking at the big picture please dont give up on your dreams. It may be hard for us here, but once youre over the hump, God will grant you a break.
I plan to stay for a year or two, then probably apply for canada, Australia, or NZ or wherever where i can eventually bring my family (since i already have the required experience by that time). And yes, I've put my plans for US on hold due to the retrogression, such a shame, after spending so many hours and money on the NCLEX...well that's life
you win some you lose some...I just know that I will win this time. And so will you...in TIME... GOOD LUCK
:thnkg::sasq:
it's better to hear/read it from someone who can understand the challenges of nurses these days. best of luck indeed to all of on the same boat... some day, we will find our way....
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how ambitious and grandeur those plans are...i really hope they get to see the shine of reality and that I too can have that much hope to have plans as big as those...
well, as for me, I am starting to see the effect of massive miscalculations and erroneous information being fed up to young minds to get nursing as their course of choice in college (WHICH IS TOTALLY JUST A MEAN FOR COLLEGES TO GET PROFIT -a business strategy I assume).
I, for one, gave up the very dream I dreamed of becoming just to get nursing. Well, you might say I am a loser for having been influenced on my decision and to have taken something that I do not like in the very first place. Well, prior to everything, I do not like nursing, but as i get to know it better, I started loving it and if I will be asked to choose again, not a single doubt would I choose nursing again. Second, if you came from a developing country like ours, "heavenly or majestic opportunities" like how they put nursing on the advertisement, is something that you will consider worth trying just to get better future and to help your family from all the mess of poverty.
However, as we talk of big plans here, maybe, some reality check is appropriate so as to make those plans feasible as possible. I am a june 2007 board passer. I graduated with flying colors. I came from a very dignified and respected universities. Got a fair result on the board exam and yet, with that much to give in, I am as of the moment still unemployed. For that, I have felt that I have been very insignificant and that my life has starting to loose some light...
Am I too picky? or don't I have the patience? or perhaps, I may have not given more than enough? Well, you can think of that, but I have volunteered in a district hospital, in a provincial hospital, and I got a training in one of the biggest and JCI accredited hospitals in the Philipines for 1 full month. Got an IV license. Got a BLS training. and some other basic stuffs...
Few might say, it is all about competition...that if you are incompetent, then, you don't belong to anywhere...Well, to all of those who think that way, you should better try to look again. I have been trained in one of the most prestigious hospitals in the Philippines...I passed the qualifying exam (500 took it, only 70 passed)...got into the interview and all the way up to the training. During the training, I got good feedbacks from my clinical instructors. Got praised for a well presented case study at the end of the program etc. But then, after finishing it, to my surprise, those with "BACKERS" or someone internally connected to the company, got processed and hired first without any consideration whatsoever. (They applied February 2008, I applied Octoboer 2007. Some don't even have the license since they just took the December 07 board). Now, that is how you define COMPETENT...in a country like ours (it may sound ugly and may hurt some here, but truthfully) decency has a very little place in our local system. Considering that it was a JCI accredited hospital...
as to other hospitals, I also have pending applications with them...but hey, look, it is TIME that I am wasting...are poor people privileged enough to waste precious thing as TIME? I highly doubt it...
now, to plan for the future is something I think present cannot afford to accommodate anymore. with so much frustrations and heartaches, I even can't look into my past with dignity anymore...Where has this job gotten me?
i am just a simple individual...all i wanted is to have a place to fit in...somewhere that i can practice everything i know...and to find that...is the only plan, if ever i will have, that i will consider worth planning.
as of the moment, i have 3 pending contract signings to 3 of the big call center companies in the Philippines...I actually am considering the word, "give it all up" as of the moment. Desperate but true...