I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
So you don't know details about rape either? Even Arkansas, the state that just passed a bathroom bill recognizes the rape kit backlog.
LOL
No I'm not irrational. I am not expressing a fear or anxiety that isn't supported by facts and evidence. No I'm not upset about conservative opinion and beliefs (that are unfounded in evidence) as long as they don't pass laws based in those unfounded opinions and beliefs. Did you forget the paslrt about the actual laws that target the transwomen? Maybe you forgot that it's not just about opinions and beliefs.
Clearly the discussion can't go anywhere when one side of the discussion is unaffected by facts and evidence. That belligerent refusal to accept facts and evidence obligates the discussion to a circular framework. We must always circle back to the fear and anxiety about the memberes that may linger under the clothing of the transwomen. That leads to anxiety about exposure or attacks. Lack of evidence to support the fear and anxiety is dismissed to circle back around to the feelings or beliefs. All done while ignoring the needs of and threats to the trans person. It's like a right wing square dance around the truth.
Yeah, a backlog is a little different than "police do not use rape kits because they are too expensive". Nice misrepresentation. Disingenuous purposeful misinformation. Is that to titillating far left zealots and get them agitated? Get femininity virtue points and defame the police at the sametime?
Did you get past the past that intimate space policies or lack there of may harm biological women and girls? Lack of collaboration and the refusal to listen with empathy will harm all women girls and trans-women.
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Roitrn said:
How many sexual assults go unreported every year? For various reason, victims of a crime do not always reprt to police. Is it not reasonable to consider if the same is occurring in regards to inappropriate exposure? By actual trans women or a person in a costume? Trans people are not new however the intimate space issue is.
Are you actually suggesting the republican party wants to be fascist? Really? Oh dear. No inflamned hyperbole there right?
Perhaps it's sentiments like that is causing such a stir with this issue? Democrats think Republicans are transphobe fascist and republican think democrats are over looking all women and girls/groomers. If a political party is willing and able to throw abhorrent names and accusations at each other, do you think people would feel comfortable reporting such crimes or inappropriate acts in an intimate place? When it involves either a genuine trans- woman or someone "wearing a costume"?. Lest they be called transphobe fascist? Exactly the way you just did?
While all women and girls, including trans-women are actually not even the priority. Politics is.
Why don't you educate yourself about rape data and statistics in the USA rather than asking me or making silly and untrue statements? Base your questions in knowledge and facts rather than in fear and anxiety that stream from political pundits.
Yeah... conservative activists and dark money have created this new concern for conservative Americans that focuses upon traswomen and girls using safe bathrooms. It's good that you can acknowledge that transfolk have been using the bathrooms providing them the most safety and comfort for many years.
Yeah, the evidence suggests that American Republicans are moving toward fascism. That's what historians and experts are talking about. There is a movement toward right wing authoritarians across the globe in the aftermath of a 100 year pandemic. You could read about that. An example of inflamed hyperbole is calling liberals Socialists or Communists because they want all Americans to have affordable access to Healthcare or drinkable water. That's everyday political rhetoric and has been for more than a decade. Conservatives can't even decide. You see how that works... one thing is based in definitions and facts and evidence and the other is based in hyperbole and political animus.
I read nonfiction books to inform myself about important historical topics. Do you?
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Microfascism, Bratich said, is the cultural way in which a fascist understanding of the world is generated from the hatreds that suffuse everyday life. It is the less visible, more emergent quality of fascism that is evident long before fascism becomes a fully-formed movement, party, or state administration that is instantly recognizable through uniforms, gestures, or slogans.
"Because fascism lurks in ordinary culture well before it gathers into a recognizable 'movement' or identifiable group, it becomes important to refine our perceptions and conceptions of fascism if we want to prevent its resurgence,” Bratich said.
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"Much of the scholarship in the years since the Second World War has examined fascism through the lenses of race, ethnicity, colonialism, and antisemitism, which of course are crucial components to understanding fascism as a form of genocide,” Bratich said. "However, in this book, I try to expand on the understanding of modern fascist culture by foregrounding gender, which is often downplayed. The book revisits some marginalized and ignored thinkers along these lines (including Virginia Woolf), and it also brings into the conversation scholarship that rarely engages each other, for example contemporary studies of online misogyny with anthropological research on rites of passage with philosophical understandings of selfhood with studies of organized political violence.”
Yes... I'm trying to tell you that right wing political interests have conservative people all riled up about transgender bathrooms and books.
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Roitrn said:
Yeah, a backlog is a little different than "police do not use rape kits because they are too expensive". Nice misrepresentation. Disingenuous purposeful misinformation. Is that to titillating far left zealots and get them agitated? Get femininity virtue points and defame the police at the sametime?
Did you get past the past that intimate space policies or lack there of may harm biological women and girls? Lack of collaboration and the refusal to listen with empathy will harm all women girls and trans-women.
Oh... so I'm not supposed to use the excuse offered by police departments themselves because it's too disingenuous? What are you trying to spin with that projection about agitation?
It's funny that you think that republican laws forcing transgirls out of safe bathrooms are somehow listening to them with empathy or are collaborating. It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about because these republican laws WILL RESULT IN HARM TO TRANSGIRLS.
Why don't you educate yourself about rape data and statistics in the USA rather than asking me or making silly and untrue statements? Base your questions in knowledge and facts rather than in fear and anxiety that stream from political pundits.
Kinda makes me wonder just what kind of academic credentials are required to be a "traveling nurse educator"
Who are these people "wearing a costume?" Are you referring to perpetrators? If so, then they are just that perps, and they will by any means commit crimes regardless of bathroom signs. Even if you separate everyone, they will still find a way because that is their very nature, to pose and perp. This is the chicken egg argument.
I'm not sure. Baloney introduced the "person in a costume" description.
This isn't about laws or what intimate spaces people shpuud use. My intent is to discuss what can be done to make everyone feel comfortable and safe.
Your chicken egg comment suggest you are not interested in a discussion.
Do you haveca suggestion? If not, feel free to sanctimoniously assert your virtue now. I will not respond to post not focused on solutions.
Why? Because cis men pose a threat? Is that why women and girls do not enter men's intimate spaces? So what's the key that makes them (transwomen) different than Cisco men other than identity choice?
Other than that they have identified as something other than what their birth sex, they have the same anatomical organs (depending on where or how far they take their transition) they are anatomically and chromosomal the same.
I would imagine you believe their is rape culture. So what prevents a cis man from posing as a transgender women to gain access from intimate spaces?
In the end, none of this will come to any reasonable conclusion. Which will lead to restrictive laws because both sides are irrational. Private facilities do not want to make policies that will harm their business. So here we are......
Not sure why you went off, but, my point is that I could see how some men might be intimidating towards her because that's what people do some of the time, they bully people. That's nothing new, even you know that. So if a transwoman were forced to use a men's bathroom and let's just be plain here, he is a man identifying as a female, perhaps dresses wears hair and acts feminine, some men might just be aholes and intimidating bullies.
Let me keep following you; woman don't enter men's spaces because it is dangerous, period. We are sexual creatures. You shouldn't have to ask me that.
The key that makes them (transwoman) different is that they no longer identify as men. Why is this hard for you to understand?
What should stop a cisman as posing as a transgender woman to gain access to intimate spaces is the law.
If they want to do this, than they are criminals, period.
Oh... so I'm not supposed to use the excuse offered by police departments themselves because it's too disingenuous? What are you trying to spin with that projection about agitation?
It's funny that you think that republican laws forcing transgirls out of safe bathrooms are somehow listening to them with empathy or are collaborating. It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about because these republican laws WILL RESULT IN HARM TO TRANSGIRLS.
No. You are not supposed to misrepresent facts such as "back logs" as "police will not use rape kits because they are too expensive".
If you read my comment again. I accused both parties of not collaborating with eachother and throwing jabs at eachother for political purposes.
BOTH PARITIES.
And I lf politicians do not get their heads put of their butts, this will result in BOTH GIRLS, WOMEN AND TRANS- WOMEN BEING HARMED.
Good point. So what happens when some transwomen still possess dominate male characteristics? Are they not intimidating to children and women the same way cis men would be to a traswoman?
I'm not saying traswomen are not women or they shouldn't be allowed in traditionally women and children intimate spaces, im wondering how to make everyone feel comfortable and safe.
I need you to tell me what dominant male characteristics you're talking about? IF you're talking about member, how and why would a man's member or for that matter a woman's vajayjay be exposed to another woman or some children.
Why don't you educate yourself about rape data and statistics in the USA rather than asking me or making silly and untrue statements? Base your questions in knowledge and facts rather than in fear and anxiety that stream from political pundits.
Yeah... conservative activists and dark money have created this new concern for conservative Americans that focuses upon traswomen and girls using safe bathrooms. It's good that you can acknowledge that transfolk have been using the bathrooms providing them the most safety and comfort for many years.
Yeah, the evidence suggests that American Republicans are moving toward fascism. That's what historians and experts are talking about. There is a movement toward right wing authoritarians across the globe in the aftermath of a 100 year pandemic. You could read about that. An example of inflamed hyperbole is calling liberals Socialists or Communists because they want all Americans to have affordable access to Healthcare or drinkable water. That's everyday political rhetoric and has been for more than a decade. Conservatives can't even decide. You see how that works... one thing is based in definitions and facts and evidence and the other is based in hyperbole and political animus.
True. It's more in reference in locker rooms where some women children undress in the open.
Hmm, logically, I don't think that a man that still has his natural bodyparts would be exposing himself right out there in the open in the woman's locker room either. There are private stalls, corner stalls and such. The thing you keep forgetting is that this man doesn't identify as male and he will do everything in his power to make others around him comfortable. Even if he has to take his showers separate.
Do you think it might be easier for these bad intentioned men to gain access to the intimate areas? Now that anyone saying they are female can enter these spaces?
Let get this clear. I do not think transwomen are any higher risk, or are more bad intended than any other biological men.
So when exactly does the traswomen become separate from the other men who share the same chromosomes and genitalia? When there is surgery? When they say it?
Would you find it appropriate to have no segregated intimate spaces at all? Anyone can enter freely into which ever space they chose?
If normal people and private businesses cannot come up with a solution, then that's when the government feels they need to write laws. Especially when political parties use the topic as a political tool and refuse to collaborate with eachother.
There is a solution. Single stalls. There are already business that have bathrooms with men and women symbol outside with locked doors.
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Yeah, a backlog is a little different than "police do not use rape kits because they are too expensive". Nice misrepresentation. Disingenuous purposeful misinformation. Is that to titillating far left zealots and get them agitated? Get femininity virtue points and defame the police at the sametime?
Did you get past the past that intimate space policies or lack there of may harm biological women and girls? Lack of collaboration and the refusal to listen with empathy will harm all women girls and trans-women.