I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Roitrn said:
I did not call POC names. So what are you even talking about?
Keep pushing that if anyone calls someone who happens to be a POC a name is racist.
Sure... except you said that you refer to them as insects and you keep insisting that it's not racist to refer to them as animals. Maybe you weren't telling us the truth again?
Pushing? Nah, I'm just letting you know that if you refer to people as insects there will be observers who connect such dehumanizing language as racist or at minimum bigoted. Those people likely won't ask you to explain, they'll just decide that you have a casual relationship with racist tropes based upon your own words an BS attitudes. Just like the readers of this thread will decide based upon what you defend and what you don't.
The parents of a boy who murdered students at a Michigan high school and the father of a man who opened fire on a Fourth of July parade in Illinois are facing charges in the killings in what marks an uncommon move by prosecutors and raises questions about who can be held accountable for mass shootings.
It's "incredibly unusual" for parents or guardians to be charged in relation to crimes committed by their child, said Dmitriy Shakhnevich, a criminal defense attorney and adjunct assistant professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice.
"It can't be just that the parents knew, generally speaking, that this kid had violent tendencies and therefore they should be held criminally responsible," he said. "But, in these cases, you do have facts that draw a close connection."
This will be an interesting trial to follow. As responsible gun owners, don't parents have a responsibility to keep the weapons out of their son's hands, especially when they know he is experiencing some mental/ behavioral health issues?
Sure... except you said that you refer to them as insects and you keep insisting that it's not racist to refer to them as animals. Maybe you weren't telling us the truth again?
Pushing? Nah, I'm just letting you know that if you refer to people as insects there will be observers who connect such dehumanizing language as racist or at minimum bigoted. Those people likely won't ask you to explain, they'll just decide that you have a casual relationship with racist tropes based upon your own words an BS attitudes. Just like the readers of this thread will decide based upon what you defend and what you don't.
Nice try. I did not refere to anyone as insects, only people who commit abhorrent crimes and Nazis.
Perhaps you should reflect your own feelings? Why would think someone is referencing skin color when you hear the word animal? Not the first think that pops into my head.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Roitrn said:
Again, I refer to them as insects for their behavior not their skin color. Yes! The well known far left the View refered to white women who vote republican as "roaches". Does that count
Your words..."I refer to them as insects".
Roitrn said:
I did not call POC names. So what are you even talking about?
Your words. There seems to be conflict with your own words.
I am stunned that you feel a need to defend dehumanizing people by referring to them as animals OR insects.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Roitrn said:
Nice try. I did not refere to anyone as insects, only people who commit abhorrent crimes and Nazis.
Perhaps you should reflect your own feelings? Why would think someone is referencing skin color when you hear the word animal? Not the first think that pops into my head.
I answered that question earlier. Why didn't you educate yourself on racist tropes when you were provided citations?
Yeah, it seems like racism might not "pop into your head" at all when confronted with racist tropes. You are, after all, defending their use as not necessarily racist.
Your words. There seems to be conflict with your own words.
I am stunned that you feel a need to defend dehumanizing people by referring to them as animals OR insects.
Yes. In reference to people who commit abhorrent crimes as insects. Not POC. In reference to MS-13 and Nazis. Perhaps youbwould like to include my entire quote? Or are you purposely misrepresenting my words? Kettle? Do you think only Hispanics are MS-13 members? That's soft bigotry at best. Do you think Nazis are too human to be called insects?
I'm stunned that you seem to think MS- 13 are only consists of POC. And I'm stunned you would defend Nazis.
It is unusual that parents of a mentally disturbed 15 year old would buy him a gun. The specifics of this case would lead any prosecutor, in Michigan anyway to assign responsibility to these egregiously defective parents. It's similar to Adam Lanza's mother who acquired him an armory. IMO , it's very likely that this child would have killing gone home and shot faces if of his parents as AL did to his mother; I haven't decided whether murdering one's criminal parents isn't justice for the other parents who lost their kids.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Roitrn said:
Yes. In reference to people who commit abhorrent crimes as insects. Not POC. In reference to MS-13 and Nazis. Perhaps youbwould like to include my entire quote? Or are you purposely misrepresenting my words? Kettle? Do you think only Hispanics are MS-13 members? That's soft bigotry at best. Do you think Nazis are too human to be called insects?
I'm stunned that you seem to think MS- 13 are only consists of POC. And I'm stunned you would defend Nazis.
I didn't misrepresent anything. First you said that you call some people insects but it's not because of their skin color and then you said that you don't call POC names.
Now you are implying things that I didn't say and didn't do...again. That dishonesty is a pattern. Defend Nazis? What a desperate and dishonest claim. It wasn't that long ago that you were morally outraged that some Republicans might be compared to Nazis by me and now you're saying that I defend them. What a logical mess.
You took that original discussion on an odd ideological and illogical tangent., IMV.
Do you care that laws about Healthcare are written by narrow minded people who are as objectively ignorant about health and care as that fellow is? Would you rather try to argue about your beliefs about abortion. In think that deserves its own thread if that's what you want. This is more of a current events thread rather than a deep discussion into something like abortion beliefs.
Do you think that my comments about that article were inciting people to violence? Make that case if you can. It will be interesting to read that spin.
I see the point you were making. The cardiologist cosigned someone elses political agenda before knowing all of the relevant facts. Conversely, how would he like someone who is not a cardiologist setting up a political agenda in life saving cardio emergencies without knowing all of the facts. I get it. Roitrn just goes off sometimes. IDK
I didn't misrepresent anything. First you said that you call some people insects but it's not because of their skin color and then you said that you don't call POC names.
Now you are implying things that I didn't say and didn't do...again. That dishonesty is a pattern. Defend Nazis? What a desperate and dishonest claim. It wasn't that long ago that you were morally outraged that some Republicans might be compared to Nazis by me and now you're saying that I defend them. What a logical mess.
Your words are in conflict your words.
I used your exactly analysis of my words. I used the illogical mess you attempted. I called certain people names, not all abhorrent crimes are committed by POC and pretty sure the far left ideology has claimed POC are now Nazis'. Not yet.
I do not call POC names. I generally don't. Call anyone's names As I said with the exception of people who commit abhorrent crimes and Nazis'. Skin color of no relevance.
toomuchbaloney
16,243 Posts
Sure... except you said that you refer to them as insects and you keep insisting that it's not racist to refer to them as animals. Maybe you weren't telling us the truth again?
Pushing? Nah, I'm just letting you know that if you refer to people as insects there will be observers who connect such dehumanizing language as racist or at minimum bigoted. Those people likely won't ask you to explain, they'll just decide that you have a casual relationship with racist tropes based upon your own words an BS attitudes. Just like the readers of this thread will decide based upon what you defend and what you don't.