I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
For someone who has such stringent standards for other people's posts, your own knowledge base is woefully skimpy. You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Roitrn said:
Who was your doctor? What are you saying here?
I was asking who pays or funds abortion, not who knows about abortion funding.
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Roitrn said:
This is my very first comment about abortion funding.
Please quote what I said that was stated as fact or authoritive on any of my comments following. Please proved the "confident statement" I made that leads to believe that . The actual statement that backs up your claims.
I did ask question. And made no statements. Please provide the contrary. Again, my actual statement.
I am bias, everyone is. Integrity is known when the person can acknowledge this fact. This comment vaguely implies that I say you have no integrity.
The impression I get is that perhaps you are having some sort of emotion about our conversations in another thread. That you are making bias assumptions based on this and what you most likely think a conservative is.
I get the impression that you use vague derogatory comments purposely to get a reaction only to insinuate the person is only to claim that you were only stating facts etc...
You make allegations without providing evidence. You have yet to state my comments that gave you the impressions you have. Although you regularly ask for this.
You are the only one who knows what your intention is. This is the impression I get. I am not claiming authority or making a statement regarding what I wrote above.
What allegations did I make?
You said you didn't suggest decreasing finding for PP to pay for support to children. You most certainly did. You asked why can't we transfer funds...I told you why... that decreasing the funding to PP doesn't help anything and someone else told you that it's not possible. But the suggestion was nonetheless recommending a decrease in funding for PP.
You may imply that I won't acknowledge that everyone has bias but my actual words in these threads have said exactly that thing... more than once. You're new here, you likely just don't know that.
I see that you only have 3 years of experience and maybe you are very young. I will try to be more gentle because you have no sense of history yet. Many if the nurses on this thread have or had forty years of experience and have learned how things work...like you can't just take money from Planned Parenthood (WHY would anyone even want to?) and just give it to somebody else. That's not the way the world works .
Thank you for being gentle. I would point out that people do graduate outside of their 20's. Sometimes because they have young children.
Well I did not say take any money from PP. I said with the money no longer being used for abortions, as less abortions are being performed ,as some have suggested, perhaps it can go to helping families with children. The children born who otherwise would have been aborted. As in from one agency to another, or even PP themselves?
Perhaps that isn't feasible and a simplistic idea. I'm okay with that. I wasn't stating a point. I was asking.
It would have been nice of someone provided education on how funding works. I really am nor familiar.
You said you didn't suggest decreasing finding for PP to pay for support to children. You most certainly did. You asked why can't we transfer funds...I told you why... that decreasing the funding to PP doesn't help anything and someone else told you that it's not possible. But the suggestion was nonetheless recommending a decrease in funding for PP.
You may imply that I won't acknowledge that everyone has bias but my actual words in these threads have said exactly that thing... more than once. You're new here, you likely just don't know that.
I did not. Quote my post that leads to to believe this. I questioned if it could. Not that it should. How do you suggest a question?
So you claim that some people don't have bias? Are you suggesting you don't?
Perhaps tell us on what basis you use to determine who is bias and who is not.
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Roitrn said:
Thank you for being gentle. I would point out that people do graduate outside of their 20's. Sometimes because they have young children.
Well I did not say take any money from PP. I said with the money no longer being used for abortions, as less abortions are being performed ,as some have suggested, perhaps it can go to helping families with children. The children born who otherwise would have been aborted. As in from one agency to another, or even PP themselves?
Perhaps that isn't feasible and a simplistic idea. I'm okay with that. I wasn't stating a point. I was asking.
It would have been nice of someone provided education on how funding works. I really am nor familiar.
Why would you suggest taking funding from PP to pay for support for children when you don't have any idea how PP is funded? Do you know what services PP provides or do you only think of abortion when you think of PP?
They are a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and can accept charitable donations to allow uninsured and underinsured clients to obtain care.
They are also healthcare providers and bill for their services. This why many young women who do not have an established primary care provider will go to PP for health screenings, birth control and treatment of STis.
As stated earlier, the Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of federal moneys to provide abortions. I have spoken extensively to our local PP manager, and she says they go to great lengths to document that they are using federal money correctly.
Many private insurances will pay for services, and some clients pay out of pocket. This means they pay their own cash. In the event that someone cannot pay, services may be covered by donation.
They are a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and can accept charitable donations to allow uninsured and underinsured clients to obtain care.
They are also healthcare providers and bill for their services. This why many young women who do not have an established primary care provider will go to PP for health screenings, birth control and treatment of STis.
As stated earlier, the Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of federal moneys to provide abortions. I have spoken extensively to our local PP manager, and she says they go to great lengths to document that they are using federal money correctly.
Many private insurances will pay for services, and some clients pay out of pocket. This means they pay their own cash. In the event that someone cannot pay, services may be covered by donation.
Thank you.
toomuchbaloney said:
Why would you suggest taking funding from PP to pay for support for children when you don't have any idea how PP is funded? Do you know what services PP provides or do you only think of abortion when you think of PP?
Please provide the quote in which I Suggested to take funding away from PP.
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Roitrn said:
I did not. Quote my post that leads to to believe this. I questioned if it could. Not that it should. How do you suggest a question?
So you claim that some people don't have bias? Are you suggesting you don't?
Perhaps tell us on what basis you use to determine who is bias and who is not.
Or move on the thread is derailed.
I did NOT claim that some people don't have bias... where did you get that?
Your question was interpreted as a suggestion... not that you were asking how PP was funded or why those funds couldn't be reallocated. It seemed unlikely that you didn't know about restrictions on funding for abortion through PP. I thought this was covered in nursing school.
I will apologize. I misunderstood your ignorance of the law and the way PP functions and is funded as an actual suggestion rather than as a question. Shame on me. I assumed that a health professional would know about the Hyde Amendment and that made the question appear as simply a manner of speaking.
I did NOT claim that some people don't have bias... where did you get that?
Your question was interpreted as a suggestion... not that you were asking how PP was funded or why those funds couldn't be reallocated. It seemed unlikely that you didn't know about restrictions on funding for abortion through PP. I thought this was covered in nursing school.
I will apologize. I misunderstood your ignorance of the law and the way PP functions and is funded as an actual suggestion rather than as a question. Shame on me. I assumed that a health professional would know about the Hyde Amendment and that made the question appear as simply a manner of speaking.
Well your interpretation was wrong. If you have shame then that's your emotion to deal with.
Yes. Assumptions cause a distance between learning and misnderstanding. I personally try to ask questions if I don't understand. Or before I come to a conclusion.
If you provide me with my quote that you made an assumption on, perhaps I could clarify for you. Is there one in particular? You haven't said.
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Roitrn said:
Well your interpretation was wrong. If you have shame then that's your emotion to deal with.
Yes. Assumptions cause a distance between learning and misnderstanding. I personally try to ask questions if I don't understand. Or before I come to a conclusion.
If you provide me with my quote that you made an assumption on, perhaps I could clarify for you. Is there one in particular? You haven't said.
I summarized it for you. Did you not understand my explanation?
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For someone who has such stringent standards for other people's posts, your own knowledge base is woefully skimpy. You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.