I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
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Lyrikleee said:
Just because fascism was originally a "right group" doesn't mean that other groups cannot have fascist ideas.
You cannot just change the definition or meaning of words to fit your beliefs. Fascism is far right extremism. We have very clear examples of fascism and fascist thinking, behavior, tools and strategies in history.
YOU called it "black supremacy" yet nothing in the words or content that YOU linked referenced or implied superiority of blacks. That means that your claims that her comments were examples of "black supremacy" are unproven and without evidence. It's simply YOUR belief and opinion. Why would I admit something that is not in evidence?
I'm sorry that it's so troubling for you that some white people feel so offended and hurt by the emotional opinions of a black woman. Are you hurt by her words?
Black Supremacy:
Black supremacy or black supremacism is a racial supremacist belief which maintains that black people are inherently superior to people of other races.
Would you interpret her words not aligning with that definition?
Perhaps you should clarify what your definition of it is? I think the original member was alluding to more that she is just a racist. Not necessarily part of a black supremist institution in which I believe you are thinking.
You cannot just change the definition or meaning of words to fit your beliefs. Fascism is far right extremism. We have very clear examples of fascism and fascist thinking, behavior, tools and strategies in history.
Yes and they include open hate and discrimination of a particular group/race. Where it is perfectly acceptable to say vile things about others. Sound familiar?
It's possible to have simular thoughts and ideas as fascism without being on the "right".
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Lyrikleee said:
No because you can't hurt white people with racism, only make them feel uncomfortable or some non sense like that. You know because POC have no power? Even when they are senators, justices and even the POTUS. It is the left that think POC are so inferior that they cannot do anything harmful or racist to white people, even when in positions of power....
Or that this person can't be racist because she is not white and has no power to inflict harm on white people. So her harmful remarks are just fine. Perhaps this member thinks white people deserve it?
Sure, sure. So how is this racism against white people hurting them? Can you be specific? Is it a matter of hurting their feelings with individual prejudices? In what ways are these white people harmed by the black woman's words?
It's a mistake to confuse individual prejudice with systemic racism, IMHO. Discrimination What it is and how to cope is a look at this topic from a psychological and health perspective.
Yes, the American system that considered black people to be livestock property; maintained or sold according to the wishes of the owner. That American system that agreed to consider all nonfree, indentured or indigenous people to count 3/5 of one free white man in the national census. The system that denied women the right to vote until the 20th century.
There's that intentionally inflammarory language of "black supremacy" that you haven't supported with a single example. Are you projecting the role of "angry racist" onto one of the members in this thread?
In my view, you would benefit from review of what the term "racist" means.
Yes. That American system was vile and hateful. That's why it was abolished. Who do you think abolished it? White people! Surely it couldn't of been POC who abolished it? After all, if they have no power to inflict harm today, they most certainly wouldn't have been able to abolish that system by themselves back then? More white people saw how evil it was than white people who perpetrated it. Hence the change.
Yes. Those were vile times indeed. They are no longer. Placing the stain on people today who are horrified by that system because of how they look is cut from the same hateful cloth.
This person is a plane ol' hateful bigot. A miserable person with a chip on her shoulder. Feigning outrage for something that happened to people who died a long time ago. And the people who did it a long time ago. Then uses the atrocity to justify her hate. Or you are using it to justify her hate.
Sure, sure. So how is this racism against white people hurting them? Can you be specific? Is it a matter of hurting their feelings with individual prejudices? In what ways are these white people harmed by the black woman's words?
It's a mistake to confuse individual prejudice with systemic racism, IMHO. Discrimination What it is and how to cope is a look at this topic from a psychological and health perspective.
So racism is okay as long as it doesn't hurt anyone? Seriously?
Racism hurts everyone. If it's okay to be racist to one group it will eventually be okay to be racist to every group. Where there is vile hatred like that, someone will always get hurt.
I do not care about your altered definition of racism. It's only recently changed to the ridiculous definition that you are referring to. Racism is racism. It's the left wing changing definitions in order to practice their racist ideology without having to answer to being racist.
Or it's a definition change for racist to be racist without looking like hypocrites or taking accountability.
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Lyrikleee said:
No body ignores the history. Couldn't even if they tried.
Pointing put the same evil hatred that was part of that history which is freely allowed now by some, is not whining about hurt feelings. Allowing it to continue without challenge will lead to very bad things. Just look at that history.
Please tell me why is it perfectly acceptable for people to say such hateful things? Regardless of their race?
So saying white people are evil and the rest of the vile comments is perfectly okay because of the 100s years of brutal oppression? Towards people who did not brutalize anyone? But merely share an appearance?
Should we treat Muslims the same way for 1000 of years of brutal terrorist attacks by people who claim to do them in the name of the religion?
When people remain silent in the face of hate and prejudice, toward any group, human tragedy occurs. History has proven that time and again.
IMV a number of remarks in these threads have sought to diminish the racist brutality that informed the thinking and belief systems of the white men who controlled the states in the American southeast for generations after the Civil War. Even your suggestion that a black woman's words rose to some level that can be compared to the "evil hatred" of American slavery is nonsensically disproportionate.
What are you suggesting by saying that her speech shouldn't be allowed to continue? And do you think that you could find an attorney to take a charge of hate speech to court based upon the evidence you've provided here? Would that be a Giuliani moment in your life?
If a word like racism can evolve over time and take on other meanings, that means the definition of fascists can as well. Or is there a dual standard for words too?
IMV a number of remarks in these threads have sought to diminish the racist brutality that informed the thinking and belief systems of the white men who controlled the states in the American southeast for generations after the Civil War. Even your suggestion that a black woman's words rose to some level that can be compared to the "evil hatred" of American slavery is nonsensically disproportionate.
What are you suggesting by saying that her speech shouldn't be allowed to continue? And do you think that you could find an attorney to take a charge of hate speech to court based upon the evidence you've provided here? Would that be a Giuliani moment in your life?
She can say whatever racist garbage she wants. I will say she is a racist all I want. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. She and who ever can say whatever they wish. This has to do with excusing abhorrent racist ideas that when not challenged, have caused mass human tragedies in history. And trying to prevent it from being possible again.
It's about equality and doing the right thing. Words like hers are dangerous regardless if you define them as racist or not.
The point isn't what she said exactly. The point is any other person not a POC would have had a very different response to statement like that. Equating a group of people as "evil". Even worse shevis an educator.
There is several examples of hate filled rhetoric being overlook or even excused. I provide some for you. You haven't said anything about that. Interesting.....
As for your silly attorney comment. I didn't say her speech was hate speech that can have law brough against it. I said it was hateful. As in hate filled. It interesting you would go there. Do you believe what she said is hate speech yourself?
IMV a number of remarks in these threads have sought to diminish the racist brutality that informed the thinking and belief systems of the white men who controlled the states in the American southeast for generations after the Civil War. Even your suggestion that a black woman's words rose to some level that can be compared to the "evil hatred" of American slavery is nonsensically disproportionate.
What are you suggesting by saying that her speech shouldn't be allowed to continue? And do you think that you could find an attorney to take a charge of hate speech to court based upon the evidence you've provided here? Would that be a Giuliani moment in your life?
Let's not forget about the white man who didn't allow the evil white men to controll the American southeast. Oh and the white men that took down Hitler and the Nazi regime and liberated thousands of people andvsaved the lives of future generations. Let me guess. That was to uphold white supremacy right? LOL
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You cannot just change the definition or meaning of words to fit your beliefs. Fascism is far right extremism. We have very clear examples of fascism and fascist thinking, behavior, tools and strategies in history.