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I am a New Grad ADN with my license (RN), but have not found a job yet because acute care hospitals are requiring BSN. I applied to WGU, but they will not accept me unless I am working as an RN. Currently working as HCP (Health Care Partner) in an acute care hospital. I work along side RNs on a daily basis. I realize that isn't the same thing, but the only reason that they could give me for this ridiculous policy is that they have found that those who aren't working as an RN are not able to pass their classes. Am I crazy to try and fight to get this policy changed? Input please...
So, if they are following their policy to the letter than anytime anyone takes time off from work, I.E. a vacation, then technically they are not working as an RN and should be disqualified from the program. I know that this is extreme, but do you see where I am coming from?
Yes, I get where you're coming from. But, no I can't see the battle. The day I decided to only fight the really big battles was the day my life got easier. It's 30 days. I've waited 30 years...what could I possibly miss out on?
I am in WGU right now (RN to MSN program) and I can not imagine how anyone could pass without being a working RN.
Granted you may be able to function as an RN but there are multiple task associated with the program that require you to reach out to your manager and hospital resources both in BSN and MSN portions.
Right now my class task requires me to sit with my unit manager and someone in QI. I need six months worth of information to formulate my project and this is non-negotiable. The next class will require me actually putting a working plan in place on my unit and then evaluate the change, without my manager's input I could not complete the assignment and there are many courses like this hence the "real life competency based" experience.
I think if they relaxed their rules or chose on a case by case basis they would run the risk of someone taking a class they are not equipped to handle because an evaluator misread a resume or made an incorrect assumption because it would then be subject to human error.
It's not just about the experience a person has but also the accessibility afforded to most RN's on hospital units.
Good luck on whichever path you choose to take.
I am in WGU right now (RN to MSN program) and I can not imagine how anyone could pass without being a working RN.Granted you may be able to function as an RN but there are multiple task associated with the program that require you to reach out to your manager and hospital resources both in BSN and MSN portions.
Right now my class task requires me to sit with my unit manager and someone in QI. I need six months worth of information to formulate my project and this is non-negotiable. The next class will require me actually putting a working plan in place on my unit and then evaluate the change, without my manager's input I could not complete the assignment and there are many courses like this hence the "real life competency based" experience.
I think if they relaxed their rules or chose on a case by case basis they would run the risk of someone taking a class they are not equipped to handle because an evaluator misread a resume or made an incorrect assumption because it would then be subject to human error.
It's not just about the experience a person has but also the accessibility afforded to most RN's on hospital units.
Good luck on whichever path you choose to take.
I do work on a hospital unit. I have a very close relationship to my manager, my CNS, physicians, my RN coworkers. I am involved and understand alot of aspects of the day to day runnings of the hospital. As I said my experience is unique. So this would not be an issue for me, but I am over WGU and have already moved on
How do they know that?You, like them, are putting me in a very small box along with other RNs who are in my position. Just because we have no RN experience does not make us stupid, but I digress.
They are not calling you stupid. They have an expectation that you will have experience in nursing to participate in forums about being a nurse, your work experience. They expect that you will have context for the readings, for discussion. You will bring your experiences as a working RN to the table.
If you have not been working as a nurse, you will not have this. Thus you are unlikely to be successful. Once you have such experience, and meet their admission requirements, you will understand. It's not about calling you stupid. They (like every decent school of higher education, ever) have admission requirements and standards for a reason.
I do work on a hospital unit. I have a very close relationship to my manager, my CNS, physicians, my RN coworkers. I am involved and understand alot of aspects of the day to day runnings of the hospital. As I said my experience is unique.
I've known lots of student nurses working as techs (but not yet RNs or with any RN experience) who would describe their situation the same way. I don't see what's "unique" about it. And it's still not the same as actual RN experience.
Apr 27, '15 by jenam2you
"I do have my BSN now and there is really no difference in "what I know" , so no face palm to my CONFIDENCE (not arrogance). BTW already being offered a LEAD position because I KNOW WHAT I KNOW."
I'm a little confused. Not trying to start an argument or drama, just trying to get some clarification. Do you or do you not have your BSN?
If you didn't want to start something, then you wouldn't have wrote your second sentence. Stop being passive aggressive, own it!!! Now let it be and enjoy your day
Actually, it was a valid question. You posted here that you're working a non-nursing position, and were denied entry into the WGU BSN program. Yet, yet in a previous thread you stated that you not only had your BSN, but we're hired into a "lead" position.
Again, do you have your BSN?
If you didn't want to start something, then you wouldn't have wrote your second sentence. Stop being passive aggressive, own it!!! Now let it be and enjoy your day
I am being the complete opposite of passive aggressive. I clearly, calmly, and concisely asked a valid question. A year ago you stated you have your BSN, now you are stating you do not. One of these is not the truth. So, I ask again, rationally and calmly, do you have your BSN or not?
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So, if they are following their policy to the letter than anytime anyone takes time off from work, I.E. a vacation, then technically they are not working as an RN and should be disqualified from the program. I know that this is extreme, but do you see where I am coming from?