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I just have to vent. I have been interviewing for a cleaning woman and would you believe many of them asked for $20/hr!! That's cash by the way! I am so angry that many nurses are making the same hourly salary as a maid and WHY WHY WHY are more nurses not angry about thier pay? I am furious that so many non degreed positions make the same or more than we do. Why haven't nurses stood for their rights??? I am new but I would love to bring nursing salaries to the negotiating tables. I am so angry.
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.QUOTE=eak16]yeah, gosh, I wish all non-educated people would just learn to know their place and accept poverty as god's will for them too
What is this supposed to mean?? Maids work very hard too and I take offense to this- my mom has done that in the past to get by and I have a masters degree--thanks in part to her hard work for me. Noneducated people have a right also to make a living. please think before you speak.
WHAT THE HECK??????????????????????????????????/
I strongly suggest you read "Nickled and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich. there is a section in that book about maids I think you would find interesting......
Actually, I didn't realize you have to be uneducated to be a maid?!?! I know of quite a few RN's I went to school with that were housekeepers to earn money for their families while they were in school...a few Lawyers too. Keeping a clean house is healthy for folks, especially for folks that can't do it themselves (my mother in law has one because she is crippled by diabetic neuropathy so badly she can barely walk).
Plus, I do housekeeping too..I just don't get paid for it. I do it for love of my family, as I am sure housekeepers do for their clients and their own family! Man, I cildn't imagine cleaning house all day and come home to do it again! WHEW, and I though comming home to play nurse/mom at home was bad!
[.What is this supposed to mean?? Maids work very hard too and I take offense to this- my mom has done that in the past to get by and I have a masters degree--thanks in part to her hard work for me. Noneducated people have a right also to make a living. please think before you speak.
WHAT THE HECK??????????????????????????????????/
I strongly suggest you read "Nickled and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich. there is a section in that book about maids I think you would find interesting......
I am sure that poster was speaking "tongue in cheek"
QUOTE=eak16]yeah, gosh, I wish all non-educated people would just learn to know their place and accept poverty as god's will for them too.
What is this supposed to mean?? Maids work very hard too and I take offense to this- my mom has done that in the past to get by and I have a masters degree--thanks in part to her hard work for me. Noneducated people have a right also to make a living. please think before you speak.
WHAT THE HECK??????????????????????????????????/
ummm.....I think he/she was being sarcastic...geez lighten up
I know that more than half of my May 2004 graduating class would probably kill for a job that pays 20.00/hour....I know that nurses seems to be under alot of stress but that basically comes with any job. My point is only the nurses that graduated from college with me came straight out of school and was lucky enough to find a job that pays 20.00/hour. Every other field had to pretty much settle for a job that pays around 12.00/hour (if they were lucky)!!!
There are so many advantages to nursing. I am in a rural area and I have an MSN and work as a CNS and make about that much....I feel lucky. This hospital is one of the few places left where people have steady work, good benefits, health care and the chance at life at retirement. Nursing is stressful. I have worked in jobs in large cities too. I have worked 27 years at this. I have hated it and loved it as a profession.....but what I know is this. Find a job you like, act like a professional and don't whine.....help fix things and you will be surprised how tolerable it is and how much respect you earn. Respect and good benefits are very much worth $20.00 per hour. No job is perfect. My biggest discovery was that my head created my environment. I do think nurses need to work to gain more respect, but I see whining people wanting more and not effective representatives that gain respect from the people who count.
C'mon Peace1! don't be ridiculous. Why are you working towards an RN? Ohh, I see, you want to make more money. Well good for you. congrats on working on a ASN or BSN. You can start out making 22$/hr as a grad RN here in Augusta, GA- remember, your LVN experience does not count as "RN" experience according to administration of most hospitals. Alas, my friend who was a very competent LPN with 8yrs exp just finished getting an ADN and most hospitals did not want to pay for LPN exp. but with a dialogue with other nurses and admin. he's making nearly 30$ base pay.
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE WORRYING ABOUT WHAT OTHERS MAKE! THIS IS WHY MEN MAKE MORE MONEY- WE TALK ABOUT IT. YOU ARE ALWAYS WORTH MORE JUST AS WELL AS THE HOUSEKEEPER. I spent 6yrs cleaning a nasty autoshop. I chose to change my profession to earn more money and so could the housekeepers. I currently gross about 82000g/yr working a cush 40hr ICU job in Augusta, GA (with 6yrs exp, but that's irrelevant- it's the skill level that is).
Hello lifeisbeautiful, I agree with you. Do not compare "caring, compassion" etc in the same topic with pay- there is no link. I care about my patients, but I also care about making some $$$. Hospitals would still pay me 13.62/hr, my starting pay back in '98 if I was willing. I work in nursing utopia in Augusta. I make over 80000g, I usually take only one patient in ICU wether it's a level2 or level 6 patient, I get cleaned scrubs to wear usually, no parking issues, great people to work with (including the docs:)), 10 paid holidays even if I'm not at work and the list could go on. But the scheduling is poor- who cares. drop me an email. see you soon.
That's great for the people say that they "love being a nurse", but that isn't what this thread is about. We are discussing wages. Call me a complete idiot, but if someone paid me $50 and hour to clean houses, I'd drop my nursing job in a heartbeat. Nurses always say money isn't everything, but to me it is a lot and just because I want to be paid what I feel I am worth doesn't make me a less caring, less compassionate, or less intelligent nurse than the next person. Also, maids probably aren't knee deep in debt with student loans. Nurses have to take that into consideration when factoring in their hourly wage. Plus, where I work, I have to pay for monthly parking, my scrubs and special work shoes so I can still walk by the end of the say. This $$ adds up quickly!PS Where do 2 year nurses make $80-$100 a year? I'm married with no children and I can move anywhere I want.I'm there!
I used to make $30 an hour being a massage therapist. Only 6 months of school, no weekends, no holidays, made my own schedule.
Now I am relatively close to graduation, and have spoken to many a local hospital, and starting wages are $24-25 per hour for GN's. Thats an actual cut in pay for 3 years of school and a $20,000 education right? maybe.
Now the reality. I was an independent contractor in an overtaxed city. I would get destroyed at tax time. DESTROYED. No benefits. None. No paid vacation, no sick days, as a matter of fact I lost a client or two because I was sick on and off for like 2 months and had to cancel appointments. Losing a steady client is horrible. One week I could work 30 hours, next week I could work 7. Can't really plan a future on that. My "boss" (the owner of the actual business) was a sexist pig, and I was stuck there because if I left I would have to start from scratch, and thats just about impossible ( I did stand up for myself though, didn't take any crap, just hated the environment) Not to say that there aren't bad nursing jobs out there, but a steady 36 hours a week, benefits, less taxes and the flexibility to move from job to job if I had to, well these things are priceless if you were living without them.
Besides, it isn't easy seeing people's faces when I told them I was a massage therapist. I know housekeepers don't quite get the same look, but since I have been in nursing school the looks have changed. Whenever someone hears what I am planning to do they are nice, supportive, and usually tell me some great story of a nurse they had, or their aunt so and so loved her nursing job. I know other people's perception isn't that important, but I got tired of "that look" when I told people what I did for a living.
Long winded response. I would rather make less money an hour and have a career for life.
[.What is this supposed to mean?? Maids work very hard too and I take offense to this- my mom has done that in the past to get by and I have a masters degree--thanks in part to her hard work for me. Noneducated people have a right also to make a living. please think before you speak.
WHAT THE HECK??????????????????????????????????/
I strongly suggest you read "Nickled and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich. there is a section in that book about maids I think you would find interesting......
Hi- relax, ok, i was being very sarcastic. I totally agree with you, in fact, thats the point i was trying to make.
Anyone that has ever been to a meeting involving Nurses realizes more complaining is done outside the meeting room in little cliques and in breakrooms than is done by standing up and uniting against the problems (not just pay). I have my theories of course, but recall the working conditions in Detroit before people had the guts to stand up for themselves. We accept it we deserve it. Of course soon this thread will sink into the morass of the mindless who will take offense at the original remarks:chuckle and life will continue. Hmmm i think i spelled everything correctly, hate to look ignorant.....
If everyone got paid for how hard they worked, the people who work in sawmills would be making at least $100,000 a year and baseball players would be making minimum wage. But we all know that will never happen!I make $30 as a lvn , iam currently a RN student. let me tell you housekkepers work very hard and deserve to be pay more. Nurses already make lots of money, still want more come on there is enough for everyone.please worry about your own pay and not others.....
Antikigirl, ASN, RN
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I think I will cut my family some slack and go 19.99 an hour...LOL!!!!!!!!! Meals extra! LOL!!!!!!!