wacko cna

systoly · Jan 8, 2009

I respectfully disagree with dawvac on both accounts. Of course there are two sides to every story, but threatening a person's license (even if it's an empty threat) is way over the line. Jess was not obligated to post. I believe the post was intended to vent and to seek advice from peers which I hope is quite appropriate for this forum.

Spritenurse1210, BSN, RN · Jan 8, 2009

hey Jess:nurse:
It is only fair to assume that in every conflict, there are two sides to the story. Surely, if we were to interrogate this so called "wacko cna," she would file similar abnormalities about your work ethics. Now, dont take this the wrong way. I am not trying to put you in the wrong here, iI just believe it would be unfair to judge without questioning both sides. I also believe that if you knew you had nothing to fear, you would not have felt obligated to post this incident in the first place. Thats just my two cents:twocents:
Hopefully this gets resolved in a way that is beneficial and favorable to both parties Good Luck to you both[/QUOT
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The only thing I can see that I did wrong was following behind her to ensure she was cleaning and changing her residents. My facility requires us to do rounds on the residents to ensure everything was done.

sailornurse · Jan 8, 2009

i respectfully disagree with dawvac on both accounts. of course there are two sides to every story, but threatening a person's license (even if it's an empty threat) is way over the line. jess was not obligated to post. i believe the post was intended to vent and to seek advice from peers which i hope is quite appropriate for this forum.

would this constitute a "hostile work environment for the nurse?" since she threatened to report you to the bon? i don't think that it is a reportable offense in most states, though of course i with 50 different boards i really can't say. here in new mexico to report someone it has to be for violating the nurse practice act, i don't think that "harrasssment in the cna's eyes" is a reportable offense but needs to be handled by human resources/management team. i think you need to stick with the chain of command, charge nurse, house supervisor, managers etc and yes document dates/times/names of witnesses/name of patient and what tasks you assigned her and her response to your requests. can you use the daily assignment sheet to writed down the tasks the cna is responsible for and keep a copy?? :twocents:

Batman24 · Jan 8, 2009

I do think this creates a hostile work environment and as such I would get HR and the DON involved ASAP. Let them know of the threats. The CNA is angry that you are holding her accountable for doing her job. Maybe others let her slide so feels by bullying and threatening you it will get you to do the same.

Arrange a meeting immediately with HR and DON and let them know this has become a hostile working environment for you and you'd like them to deal with the situation at once. Also be sure to create a paper trail in regards to this situation. And absolutely keep a log/documentation as recommended above.

Good luck. I'm sorry you are dealing with this.

fuzzywuzzy, CNA · Jan 8, 2009

I'm on the other side of a similar situation. I'm a CNA, and there's a nurse who works on another unit who has decided that she doesn't like me and calls me out for every little thing in front of everyone, even though I don't even work with her! Half the stuff I get yelled at for is untrue, the rest of it is minor things that no one else would ever get talked to about.

I do my job. The residents all like me. There are others who ignore call lights and skip things like repositioning, oral care, etc. or are rude to the residents, and yet I get **** for tiny little nitpicky things. It's well-known that this nurse has a horrible bedside manner and someone told me she's already been spoken to about it, but she's friends with the supervisor.

It's immature and unprofessional. I feel like a high school girl getting bullied by someone just because she knows she can get away with it.

Batman24 · Jan 8, 2009

I'm on the other side of a similar situation. I'm a CNA, and there's a nurse who works on another unit who has decided that she doesn't like me and calls me out for every little thing in front of everyone, even though I don't even work with her! Half the stuff I get yelled at for is untrue, the rest of it is minor things that no one else would ever get talked to about.
I do my job. The residents all like me. There are others who ignore call lights and skip things like repositioning, oral care, etc. or are rude to the residents, and yet I get **** for tiny little nitpicky things. It's well-known that this nurse has a horrible bedside manner and someone told me she's already been spoken to about it, but she's friends with the supervisor.
It's immature and unprofessional. I feel like a high school girl getting bullied by someone just because she knows she can get away with it.

If you are being bullied take the info to your manager at once. If you share the same boss and it's the one she is friends with pull her superior or a HR rep into the meeting as well to protect yourself. If it's a hostile working environment tell them that. I don't see why she's reprimanding you if you aren't even dealing with her patients. That seems to be overstepping her boundaries.

BradleyRN · Jan 8, 2009

The only thing I can see that I did wrong was following behind her to ensure she was cleaning and changing her residents. My facility requires us to do rounds on the residents to ensure everything was done.

Thank goodness they do. You are doing your job, and will likely encounter many more people like this. Intimidation is a game played by lazy CNA's to protect doing things their way. Write her up for insubordination when she refuses to get v/s. You are helping raise the standard of care and she must get with the program or hit the bricks. In my years of LTC, there were a few people who complained or filed for wrongful termination. They never pursued it though, because they knew they were negligent. Protecting our patients is more than just a job.:)

Spritenurse1210, BSN, RN · Jan 8, 2009

I'm on the other side of a similar situation. I'm a CNA, and there's a nurse who works on another unit who has decided that she doesn't like me and calls me out for every little thing in front of everyone, even though I don't even work with her! Half the stuff I get yelled at for is untrue, the rest of it is minor things that no one else would ever get talked to about.
I do my job. The residents all like me. There are others who ignore call lights and skip things like repositioning, oral care, etc. or are rude to the residents, and yet I get **** for tiny little nitpicky things. It's well-known that this nurse has a horrible bedside manner and someone told me she's already been spoken to about it, but she's friends with the supervisor.
It's immature and unprofessional. I feel like a high school girl getting bullied by someone just because she knows she can get away with it.

you're right it is immature, however i am just following protocols establshed by the facility. a little update? i was told by the staffing coordinator she's resigned and to keep making sure my job is done

Batman24 · Jan 8, 2009

a little update? i was told by the staffing coordinator she's resigned and to keep making sure my job is done

The CNA resigned?! That's great news. Sounds like your job was being done unless you had been reprimanded to the contrary. I wouldn't stress too much. The CNA was just ticked you were making her do her job.

DusktilDawn · Jan 8, 2009

SBONs tend to stay away from employee/employer or work place issue type conflicts. Even if this wack job filed a complaint with the SBON, I doubt you'll hear from them regarding this matter. Basically I think she was trying to threaten and intimidate you because you had the audacity to expect her to do her job. I also wonder if she wasn't "asked" to resign, I doubt your the first nurse who's had issues with her.