Vodka tampons?!?

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recently there was a local news report about this new disturbing trend of teenagers inserting vodka soaked tampons lady partslly and rectally (males are doing this too), because they believe it's a quicker, more intense way to get drunk and not end up reeking of booze when they go home. :eek: has anyone else heard of this or even seen it in your ed? first it was snorting bath salts, now this? what the heck is wrong with people anymore? :confused:

here's the story one of our ed docs posted:

vodka tampons to get drunk?

robert glatter, md, emergency medicine, 10:19pm nov 13, 2011

if you haven't already seen this in your ed, some female teenagers have a new and dangerous way that they are experimenting with alcohol--soaking tampons in vodka. rectal use has also been reported with males and females as well.

apparently, some teenagers believe that it is a more rapid, lasting and intense way to get drunk. law enforcement as well as eds throughout the country are seeing this in increasing numbers over the past year apparently, according to a recent news story out of phoenix.

from a physiological standpoint, ethanol gets absorbed directly and rapidly from the lady parts since its a highly vascular structure, and without any barriers, leading to higher serum levels of ethanol more rapidly.

beer bongs have also been utilized rectally in the same concept as a vodka soaked tampon- leading to the same rapid effect of alcohol intoxication.

teens apparently have turned to this method because they believe that they can hide the smell of alcohol from their parents as well as the police. they have also figured out that this method can avoid the nausea and vomiting and other obvious signs of ethanol intoxication- the only issue is that they often pass out before realizing that they have had too much to drink. (incidentally, it has been reported that a super tampon can hold about a shot of vodka, which is quite potent when it's absorbed directly into the bloodstream)

it is important to emphasize to teens that they will not pass a breathalyzer test because they didn't drink the booze-- the assay obviously checks for checks for a systemic alcohol level-not what is expired in their breath.

er personnel need to be aware that patients who present to an ed with a depressed level of consciousness, without the smell of alcohol and clinical suspicion for ongoing intoxication need to have a rectal and lady partsl exam to exclude tampons or other foreign bodies as a source of ongoing chemical intoxication. this could obviously lead to a delay in care (and diagnosis), as well as a source of ongoing intoxication, if this is missed on physical exam.

robert glatter, md

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
Has anyone heard of the "wine steward" partier? A Foley catheter is inserted into a man's empty bladder, as much wine as he can stand (owie) is instilled, and he goes about filling wine orders sans the glass in a very unique way. .:uhoh21:

:barf01::barf01::barf01:

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Lol....my dog snorted confectioner's sugar once!

Awwww. . . did an amusing sneeze-fest follow that? Or maybe he/she has a sweet tooth and you refused to hand over the cookies? :jester:

We are going to have to add that to our triage assesment.

Have you dipped any of your tampons into Vodka today before inserting them?

If so do you consume more than 5 tampons in a week? If so do you want info on coming off the etoh?

I wonder - why is it vodka? Why not Jack Daniels or Don Julio Blanco tequila? Perhaps it's related to the myth of my teenage years that if you got wasted on vodka, since it was clear nobody could smell it and you wouldn't get a horrible hangover. yeahhhh riggghhht :uhoh3:

Specializes in ER.

Wasnt it MANSWERS that did a story on the quickest way to get drunk? Showed the guy giving himself the brewski enema lol! Dont know about ya'lll but my old man would have beat me harder had I come home with a tampon up my ass rather than just being drunk! lol

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
"life isn't that bad"---- I suppose you've walked in the shoes of all teenagers to actually say that? Just because YOUR life wasn't that bad, and YOU wouldn't have thought to do stupid ****, doesn't mean the whole world is going to be the exact same way.

Teens are impulsive and often crack under the 'everyone else did it' peer pressure. Not all kids can resist that pressure. The fact that healthcare professionals don't understand childhood development and psych is scary to me.

Let's examine this. If one has the time and financial resources to obtain mass-produced intoxicants, and the time tio engage in their use, one is either involved in a life of subsistence crime, or one is enabled by the post-1950s development of "Late/Extended Adolescence".

If dependence is such that life is a cycle of subsistence crime, then dependence is the primary life factor, and these individuals are unable to make "positive" choices of any sort. Life is a series of highs (substance induced, and crime-activity induced) followed by varying levels of depressive states. While the substance problem may be treated, the crime problem, to all evidence, cannot-it is sociopathy/psychopathology.

If one is involved in "recreational extremes", the pathology is still very much present, though not to the extent that these individuals are completely unable to sympathize/empathize with others. Social acceptance of continued adolescent-level pyschological conflict retards the social and emotional growth by, essentially, allowing these individuals to continue in a habitual pattern of self-gratification, rather than developing interpersonal-relational skills.

There is some good literature examining the increase in sociopathological behavior in society, demonstrating a strong correlation between incidence and the decrease in global conflicts. In short, people (generally men)with this high-gratification need used to find a good war to fight, and large numbers of them were killed befiore the age of 25. (E.g., psychologically well-adapted men(>18yoa) in the 50s and 60s were not going from Viet Nam to Biafra to Rwanda to the Congo, one conflict after another). If they were not globe-trotting soldiers/mercenaries, they were involved in other high-risk professions with high mortality rates.

In the age of advanced (and free) trauma care, limited conflict opportunities, and expanded societal opportunity for self-gratification, these men are living longer, having children with their genes, teaching their coping mechanisms, and expanding their latent levels of violence.

As this relates to young women, some of them carry the genes of the aforementioned fathers, and learn maladaptive mate-selection models from the same. Greater social acceptance of women in risk-taking lifestyles puts others in competition with females in mate-seeking in a highly Darwinistic social setting where the most brutal and cut-throat individuals rise to positions of authority and autonomy. They are also placed in direct competition with males in risk-seeking behaviors (drug-use, alcohol consumption, promiscuity and violence) which increases the survivability of those least socially connected and adapted.

As long as we allow "stupid s**t" as a developmental norm, we will continue to see declines in overall social cohesion.

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
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Has anyone heard of the "wine steward" partier? A Foley catheter is inserted into a man's empty bladder, as much wine as he can stand (owie) is instilled, and he goes about filling wine orders sans the glass in a very unique way. .:uhoh21:

"Stewards" wandering all around the street during Gay Pride Week in SF, if you ever have the fortune/misfortune to witness the spectacle.

Well it WAS a direct quote from a 14 y/o. Besides since we no longer use the word "retarded" to describe disabled and handicapped people I don't have a problem with the word being repurposed. The english language is dynamic not static. Not that long ago gay used to refer to being very happy.

Perhaps you should not refer to your friends as retarded?

Again, the issue was not the quote from a 14-year-old. It was the praising of the quote by an adult. And I'm quite confident that neither the teenager nor the adult considered "retarded" anything but pejorative. However, I'm sure the posters on this forum who have retarded children will take comfort in knowing that English is dynamic.

Specializes in ED only.

Regarding the post that kids now will snort anything: I recently had a teen ask me if he could get high from snorting Warfarin. I calmly told him "no - but you will bleed to death". Then came the lecture. Kids believe that anything that comes in a tablet form can now be crushed and snorted. Are we going to have a future generation of young adults that are permanently brain damaged?:uhoh3:

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Let's examine this. If one has the time and financial resources to obtain mass-produced intoxicants, and the time to engage in their use, one is either involved in a life of subsistence crime, or one is enabled by the post-1950s development of "Late/Extended Adolescence".

If dependence is such that life is a cycle of subsistence crime, then dependence is the primary life factor, and these individuals are unable to make "positive" choices of any sort. Life is a series of highs (substance induced, and crime-activity induced) followed by varying levels of depressive states. While the substance problem may be treated, the crime problem, to all evidence, cannot-it is sociopathy/psychopathology.

If one is involved in "recreational extremes", the pathology is still very much present, though not to the extent that these individuals are completely unable to sympathize/empathize with others. Social acceptance of continued adolescent-level psychological conflict retards the social and emotional growth by, essentially, allowing these individuals to continue in a habitual pattern of self-gratification, rather than developing interpersonal-relational skills.

There is some good literature examining the increase in sociopathological behavior in society, demonstrating a strong correlation between incidence and the decrease in global conflicts. In short, people (generally men)with this high-gratification need used to find a good war to fight, and large numbers of them were killed before the age of 25. (E.g., psychologically well-adapted men(>18yoa) in the 50s and 60s were not going from Viet Nam to Biafra to Rwanda to the Congo, one conflict after another). If they were not globe-trotting soldiers/mercenaries, they were involved in other high-risk professions with high mortality rates.

In the age of advanced (and free) trauma care, limited conflict opportunities, and expanded societal opportunity for self-gratification, these men are living longer, having children with their genes, teaching their coping mechanisms, and expanding their latent levels of violence.

As this relates to young women, some of them carry the genes of the aforementioned fathers, and learn maladaptive mate-selection models from the same. Greater social acceptance of women in risk-taking lifestyles puts others in competition with females in mate-seeking in a highly Darwinism social setting where the most brutal and cut-throat individuals rise to positions of authority and autonomy. They are also placed in direct competition with males in risk-seeking behaviors (drug-use, alcohol consumption, promiscuity and violence) which increases the survivability of those least socially connected and adapted.

As long as we allow "stupid s**t" as a developmental norm, we will continue to see declines in overall social cohesion.

I love reading your stuff....are you my husband in disguise?:lol2: You sound just like him.

Specializes in Hospice / Ambulatory Clinic.
Again, the issue was not the quote from a 14-year-old. It was the praising of the quote by an adult. And I'm quite confident that neither the teenager nor the adult considered "retarded" anything but pejorative. However, I'm sure the posters on this forum who have retarded children will take comfort in knowing that English is dynamic.

I just don't get why your trying to hijack this thread for your own agenda. Besides why are YOU using the word retarded so freely if it's so offensive to you? Why not use the more appropriate names and be a positive example rather than admonishing others for their adjective choices. Most people do not respond favorably to the stick. Especially adults.

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
I love reading your stuff....are you my husband in disguise?:lol2: You sound just like him.

Oh, no! You've discovered my suave, debonaire alter-ego online! I am doomed!:D

Is the poor devil (in no way relating to his co-habitational status with you!) also in healthcare? Or simply a well-read intellectual giant...?:yeah::cheers::bow:

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Oh, no! You've discovered my suave, debonaire alter-ego online! I am doomed!:D

Is the poor devil (in no way relating to his co-habitational status with you!) also in healthcare? Or simply a well-read intellectual giant...?:yeah::cheers::bow:

:lol2: That's funny.........:lol2:

He's A Simply a well read intellectual giant..........an Avionics Engineer:grn:.....an yes sometimes he is a devil...:coollook:;) Cheers*wine

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Let's examine this. If one has the time and financial resources to obtain mass-produced intoxicants, and the time tio engage in their use, one is either involved in a life of subsistence crime, or one is enabled by the post-1950s development of "Late/Extended Adolescence".

If dependence is such that life is a cycle of subsistence crime, then dependence is the primary life factor, and these individuals are unable to make "positive" choices of any sort. Life is a series of highs (substance induced, and crime-activity induced) followed by varying levels of depressive states. While the substance problem may be treated, the crime problem, to all evidence, cannot-it is sociopathy/psychopathology.

If one is involved in "recreational extremes", the pathology is still very much present, though not to the extent that these individuals are completely unable to sympathize/empathize with others. Social acceptance of continued adolescent-level pyschological conflict retards the social and emotional growth by, essentially, allowing these individuals to continue in a habitual pattern of self-gratification, rather than developing interpersonal-relational skills.

There is some good literature examining the increase in sociopathological behavior in society, demonstrating a strong correlation between incidence and the decrease in global conflicts. In short, people (generally men)with this high-gratification need used to find a good war to fight, and large numbers of them were killed befiore the age of 25. (E.g., psychologically well-adapted men(>18yoa) in the 50s and 60s were not going from Viet Nam to Biafra to Rwanda to the Congo, one conflict after another). If they were not globe-trotting soldiers/mercenaries, they were involved in other high-risk professions with high mortality rates.

In the age of advanced (and free) trauma care, limited conflict opportunities, and expanded societal opportunity for self-gratification, these men are living longer, having children with their genes, teaching their coping mechanisms, and expanding their latent levels of violence.

As this relates to young women, some of them carry the genes of the aforementioned fathers, and learn maladaptive mate-selection models from the same. Greater social acceptance of women in risk-taking lifestyles puts others in competition with females in mate-seeking in a highly Darwinistic social setting where the most brutal and cut-throat individuals rise to positions of authority and autonomy. They are also placed in direct competition with males in risk-seeking behaviors (drug-use, alcohol consumption, promiscuity and violence) which increases the survivability of those least socially connected and adapted.

As long as we allow "stupid s**t" as a developmental norm, we will continue to see declines in overall social cohesion.

Huh???

I jest. I'm pretty sure I follow your logic, but for one concept. The propensity for adolescents to engage in "stupid ****" tends to cross socioeconomic classifications broadly when the bottom two layers Maslow's hierarchy are met, so I'm having trouble connecting the vodka-soaked tampon behavior with subsistence crime.

I'm assuming by that term you're talking about poeple who lie, cheat and steal to feed a habit of some sort. Help me connect the dots.

Oh and btw, you're the first person to confirm the wine steward story, which I orignally read on an ED Doc Blog. Sorry for grossing y'all out too much. It was pulling grass out of a dog's butt that had me running for the barf bag but I do understand it was done for therapeutic reasons.

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