Visa Bulletin Oct 09

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 12, 2009

So basically you're stuck. If you're done with graduate school, then you might as well go home and gain some more experience there. You have already 2 years under your belt which is great considering that most are having a hard time finding work. It's going to be hard to get a green card right now with so many people in line waiting for one also. Your hospital can petition you, but their hands are tied when INS that makes all the decisions. Good Luck

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 12, 2009

If the hospital will not file until 485 can be filed then you are well and truly stuck. There is no way at the moment that AOS can be filed. Currently dates are 2001-2 depending on where you was born so need to plan a Plan B and look t returning home and/or another country. Once OPT/CPT is completed and you are not maintaining student status then you are working illegally and could be in line for a ban of 3-10 years if caught or even for life

redranger · Sep 12, 2009

I agree with Medsurg, new grads should be limited on the OT they work for the first year of employment. It's very unsafe and I've seen it happen. It's sad that their orientation is only about a month in the LTC before they're set free. In the hospitals our new grads have to work 8 weeks with a mentor, and then they get their own patients, but a mentor checks up on them.

My wife had a 4 months training / orientation period.

The hospital started my wife about 1 month earlier than the New Grad Class Trainee, since she already had her RN licenses. By the time orientation started for her, she already had 1 month of floor training. She completed her orientation last month.

It worked out good for her, They allowed my wife to work days instead of night shift. Right now she is working 5 days per week and working both Saturday/Sunday since it pays an extra $6 per hour. The nursing thing is really working out better than I ever expected. After being there 2 months they gave her and others RN's a 12% Pay Increase, Kinda like a Cost Of Living Raise. I think she is due another raise next month, Going from RN1 to RN2.

Her work said she can work as little or as much OT (up to 60 hours), as she wants. Thats almost like working for yourself, since you can dictate what days you want to work.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Sep 12, 2009

My wife had a 4 months training / orientation period.
The hospital started my wife about 1 month earlier than the New Grad Class Trainee, since she already had her RN licenses. By the time orientation started for her, she already had 1 month of floor training. She completed her orientation last month.
It worked out good for her, They allowed my wife to work days instead of night shift. Right now she is working 5 days per week and working both Saturday/Sunday since it pays an extra $6 per hour. The nursing thing is really working out better than I ever expected. After being there 2 months they gave her and others RN's a 12% Pay Increase, Kinda like a Cost Of Living Raise. I think she is due another raise next month, Going from RN1 to RN2.
Her work said she can work as little or as much OT (up to 60 hours), as she wants. Thats almost like working for yourself, since you can dictate what days you want to work.

This is way off topic. Research has shown working the schedule your wife is working is unsafe for her patients and her professional practice. Nursing is more than money, there are patient lives involved.

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 12, 2009

This is way off topic. Research has shown working the schedule your wife is working is unsafe for her patients and her professional practice. Nursing is more than money, there are patient lives involved.

I'm sorry but I have to agree with Medsurg! I'm also having trouble digesting what redranger wrote. A pay increase of 12%? in this economy. Everywhere is suffering and hospitals are cutting back dramatically. I'm also having a hard time digesting the fact that she started one month earlier before the rest of the new grads just because she has her license. I believe that all new grads must have their license before they start working on the floor as a RN. There are rare instances where the new grad has started without having their license but that was because something was fishy about the whole thing from day one. But anyway, if your wife had a four month training she must be doing some sort of speciality. What's the speciality that she's in? Your whole post sounds really too good to be true, and usually if it's too good to be true, it probably is. So she was allowed to work overtime as a new grad? While she was doing the "so called" new grad program? Red flag right there because in most hospitals new grads DON'T QUALIFY FOR OVERTIME WORK. It's because they're still in training and aren't allowed to work alone until their training period is over. She's also going from RN I to RN II? In about 4-5 months of training. Another red flag right there, you usually don't qualify for that until you've completed a minimum of about 1000 hrs. You can't get that in 4-5 months of working. You said she was working 60 hr weeks so lets do the math she would have had to been working 60 hr wk periods from day one (60 hrs wk X's 4 wks in one month, 240 hrs per month X's 4 months=960 hrs) definately shy of the 1000 minimum hours. I believe it's a bit more actually than 1000, but I'm thinking it's more of 1200 hours, I can't remember. Anyway, I have a hard time believing that while you're doing the new grad orientation that you're allowed to work all Sat & Sun while doing it. That's just not going to happen. Usually they have to attend some sort of classes for the new grad program and I'm unsure if that's even included in the 1000-1200 hrs in the RN I step. The classes all go simultaneously with the program, so if she started the program one month before????? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, did she really or is the original poster trying to paint a pretty picture for his wife? I don't know. But I don't believe that a new grad is allowed to work all that overtime when there are plenty of nurses with more senority who are working the overtime more often than next. Usually the new grads are the ones to get cancelled first. I haven't met any RN I new grad who hasn't been cancelled at least once a pay period in this economy. I also believe that if she were all this overtime that the original poster is saying then the directors would want to know why and RED FLAG! They wont allow her to do over time anymore. Usually, they will find someone else who isn't on overtime to work instead. So ehhhh, I'm having a hard time believe this Peter Pan Fairyland post! Sorry, I'm not convinced.

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 13, 2009

''Her work said she can work as little or as much OT (up to 60 hours), as she wants. Thats almost like working for yourself, since you can dictate what days you want to work. "

Huh? Since when can someone who's so low on the senority list can actually work as much or as little as she wants? Even most senior nurses can't even do that. What makes her so special?

redranger · Sep 13, 2009

''Her work said she can work as little or as much OT (up to 60 hours), as she wants. Thats almost like working for yourself, since you can dictate what days you want to work. "
Huh? Since when can someone who's so low on the senority list can actually work as much or as little as she wants? Even most senior nurses can't even do that. What makes her so special?

They let her self schedule. She has to work at least 3 days per week, and up to 5 days. She has herself scheduled till the end of October.

Nothing makes he special, it's just the way it is done where she works, I fassume it's the same way in most hospitals.

Also on Fridays at her work, if they are running low on employees they offer a $150 bonus if you work that day if you are not already scheduled to work.

She seems to really love her job, and is very happy working.

It seems like I made the right choice to let her finish school in Philippines, even though we had to wait almost 2 years before she was able to come to USA.

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 13, 2009

From what I heard from a RN II is that in order for you to jump from RN I to RN II, you need 2000 hrs. I don't know if that's across the board for all states or not. So again, I'm not convinced by Redrangers post, all I see is someone trying to paint a pretty picture considering he had all these high expectations and primpt up his wife on what an excellent education she received and how she would be sought just because of that.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Sep 13, 2009

From what I heard from a RN II is that in order for you to jump from RN I to RN II, you need 2000 hrs. I don't know if that's across the board for all states or not. So again, I'm not convinced by Redrangers post, all I see is someone trying to paint a pretty picture considering he had all these high expectations and primpt up his wife on what an excellent education she received and how she would be sought just because of that.

I would not continue to address his posts, except when it effects patient care. Working 60 hours a week is unsafe nursing practice, it doesn't matter where you are a new grad or an experienced nurse. Considering this is a nursing forum, I work rather hear from his wife since she is the one working. I can tell you after 3 decades of a good marriage, my husband still doesn't have a full comprehension of nursing. My husband also would be ashamed to post that I worked 60 hours a week since that is not healthy, not to mention a marriage takes time ( especially a new marriage) and working all those hours is not healthy for a new marriage or nursing.

Fiona59 · Sep 13, 2009

It seems like I made the right choice to let her finish school in Philippines, even though we had to wait almost 2 years before she was able to come to USA.

Wow, and I thought women had their own minds and could make their own choices. Sounds as if the earning prospects of the wife were forefront in this marriage.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Sep 13, 2009

They let her self schedule. She has to work at least 3 days per week, and up to 5 days. She has herself scheduled till the end of October.
Nothing makes he special, it's just the way it is done where she works, I fassume it's the same way in most hospitals.
Also on Fridays at her work, if they are running low on employees they offer a $150 bonus if you work that day if you are not already scheduled to work.
She seems to really love her job, and is very happy working.
It seems like I made the right choice to let her finish school in Philippines, even though we had to wait almost 2 years before she was able to come to USA.

The only reason she had to wait is to complete her education, which could have been done in the USA. So I guess money ( cheaper to go to school internationally ) won over love!

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 13, 2009

OK guys, this is going Off topic. Can we please keep to topic on the VB for October