Unconventional Strange Treatments

Peeps Mcarthur · Dec 9, 2002

From Washyahands

I had a post partum C section who couldn't pee. She did not want to be cathed, and was very vocal about it. An LPN that I was working with told me to have her sit on the commode, crack a smelling salt and toss it into the commode hat. The patient ended up urinating 700 ml immediately afterward

Smelling salts: Ammonium carbonate/aromatizing ammonia

Contacts the mucos membranes "down yonder" and .................what?

Stimulates free nerve endings?

Creates hypertonic condition in the distal tissue?

Uhmmmm? That's interesting.

Peeps Mcarthur · Dec 9, 2002

If it was pre surgical, where did she even get room for 800ccs?

Yowwwch!

If it was post surgical, don't they give fluids for that procedure? They did that without a catheter in place?

Not that I know crap about OB, but seems kinda risky in itself 2nd to stress since the stretch receptors tell you to void after about 2ooccs

Oh mommy!!

I've gotta go now.

Agnus · Dec 9, 2002

Originally posted by Peeps Mcarthur

Oh mommy!!

I've gotta go now.

:chuckle

RNsweetie · Dec 9, 2002

These are great will have to start a book of my own to use when the situation arises!

cindyln · Dec 9, 2002

Originally posted by cindyln
I had a c-section patient who couldn't pee and did not want to be cathed.The OB told me to have her sit on the toilet backwards.Wow it worked.SHe voided 800cc!

She was 24 hours post-op and her catheter had been removed 6 hours earlier.The docs I work with give them 6 hours to void before cathing them after removal of the catheter.And she was unable to do this even after trying for several hours.BUT when she sat on the toilet backwards I guess it relaxed the right muscles so that she had success.

indynurse · Dec 9, 2002

If it was pre surgical, where did she even get room for 800ccs?

Sometimes a post-op c-section can't void after the foley catheter is d/c'd. The last place an epidural tends to wear off is from the nerves that innervate the bladder. At my hospital, most c-sections received duramorph epidurals and it seems to last a very long time for some women. If the catheter comes out before the duramorph has worn off, the pt can't void.

The unconventional treatment I have heard of is for post-partum women who are engorged using cold cabbage leaves in their bra to help relieve engorgement. I have pts on their third or fourth baby who swear by this.

P_RN, ADN, RN · Dec 9, 2002

My mother was bitten severely on her upper arm when she was a child. She said the doctor put wet cabbage leaves on the wound and the bleeding stopped almost immediately. She has a huge scar there but had no infection or any other problems.

kids · Dec 9, 2002

Originally posted by WashYaHands
I had a post partum C section who couldn't pee. She did not want to be cathed, and was very vocal about it. An LPN that I was working with told me to have her sit on the commode, crack a smelling salt and toss it into the commode hat. The patient ended up urinating 700 ml immediately afterward.

I wonder if she peed in self defence so you would get her off the commode (couldn't resist).

Anaclaire · Dec 10, 2002

We've used the cabbage leaves on Mom's breasts to help relieve engorgement and it works very well.

Also, a couple bags of frozen peas kept in the freezer work good as cold packs for engorgement because they can be molded to fit the shape of the breasts and can be re-frozen and used over and over... probably no good for cooking and eating after all that thawing and freezing though....

We've also had good luck when a postpartum woman can't urinate when we place warm water in a pan (like the plastic one that comes in admission kits to use for bed baths, etc.) and put it in front of the toilet for her to put her feet in. I suppose it relaxes some women and they are able to void with the cause of urinary retention is anxiety rather than the nerves still being numbed from labor meds...

Wet tea bags placed on sore nipples for about 10-15 minutes helps a lot for many breastfeeding women. Then, leave the nipples to air for a good 10 minutes afterwards. The tannic acid from the tea leaves is supposed to be the chemical that soothes them... I think.

sunnygirl272 · Dec 10, 2002

Originally posted by Peeps Mcarthur
From Washyahands

Smelling salts: Ammonium carbonate/aromatizing ammonia
Contacts the mucos membranes "down yonder" and .................what?

Stimulates free nerve endings?

Creates hypertonic condition in the distal tissue?

Uhmmmm? That's interesting.

nah..the stingy-burny just shocks the pi$$ outa her....

sunnygirl272 · Dec 10, 2002

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i have ulcerative colitis... i am fairly well-controlled with my asacol...knock on wood, have never needed steroids....my main quality of life complaint is the oral ulcers...(am planning on asking for topical steroids at my next followup) anyhoo...a month or so ago, i had probably 6 lesions..sore as he!!....was dying for a turkey sub with extra hot peppers..thought "sore mouth be dammed..i am having this sub..." and man o man were they hot!...and my mouth felt great after....thought hey, maybe it's the capsacin...they use it to treat neuraligias...so now, tonight i have 1 lesion...but it's nasty...and i know it means a few more will be popping up...so i thought"hmmm....i'll try putting hot sauce on it"...and i'll be dammed..after the 2-3seconds of vinegar sting...it felt good enough i could brush my teeth and everything!!!

i am just so tickled with myself i had to share!!!
melinda

donmurray · Dec 10, 2002

Never tried it on a patient, but when the kids were small, and cut their lip, or bit their tongue, bleeding (and yelling!) could usually be stopped with a spoonful of sugar.