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Hey everybody! Anyone applying for the above mentioned program? I haven't had luck finding any threads, in regard to this, for that specific year. I would like to find people who are so we can keep in touch through this process.
1 minute ago, ufanon said:Current student here...
I really hate to say this, but this is an ongoing trend with UF CON especially the ABSN program.
The disorganization only starts here and I'm really sorry to see all of this happening to you all.
If I were you, I would seriously reconsider doing this program if accepted. I would definitely not recommend it. There is a good post on UF Accelerated BSN Summer 2020 toward the very end that was a great summary of all the BS this program puts you through...
If you all want certain examples then I would gladly give some.
The professors are really great (for the most part), but the admin side is very messed up. Like stated, the advisors unfortunately are the messengers for bad news, but they don't really have any control over these things.
I really hope you get some answers soon.
Is there a way you can share the post to this thread? Or copy and paste it here? I am also a current UF student but I’m a psych major right now and tbh it’s not better ? it’s been a struggle trying to get info on my graduation
Hi!! Thank you for your comment. Wow. It is very unexpected to say the least. I was not able to find the thread you mentioned. Would love to read the details on that.
I don’t think that at this point we would deny the offer, if we are accepted. In my case it’s the closest possible start date, hence I can start making $$ sooner. I heard that it’s easy to get a job after this program, and academically it is strong. This is the most important to me. I can deal with bureaucracy and disorganized structure. I’m from Russia, it’s basically all that there x 1000.
but certainly knowing that before starting the program is a huge deal, thank you for coming here and sharing this with us.
8 minutes ago, Bri2399 said:Is there a way you can share the post to this thread? Or copy and paste it here? I am also a current UF student but I’m a psych major right now and tbh it’s not better ? it’s been a struggle trying to get info on my graduation
This is what I found:
”
Hey all, I'm a current student in the UF nursing program in Gainesville, graduating this year (2020).
Seriously consider other schools to study nursing. UF was my first choice when I was applying, and had been for years, so I was ecstatic when I found out I was accepted. I didn't even consider other programs. But as the semesters have gone, I really wish I would have gone somewhere else. My reasons (and just about everyone else's in this program) (seriously, talk to any of them):
Disorganization: exams are scheduled in conflict with one another and with classes. We have to go to events and meetings that are scheduled during class time, but the meetings are mandatory (they take attendance and will email you about it) and all classes take attendance. You'll find out about meetings like this a few days before it takes place, and it'll always conveniently be on exam weeks.
Readings: I'm all for working hard. I don't have an issue with how difficult material is, in my opinion, it's what we all sign up for. However, we are human and have limits—there is only so much you can go through and absorb every day. After meeting with professors about material for guidance, it is clear that, at times, they merely glance at the chapter title and assign the whole thing…for numerous chapters/week. However, professors will constantly look at you with bewilderment and say "that's outside of your scope, why are you studying that?" when you ask questions about material that was assigned that you don't understand.
Exams: Alright, here's how exams go-- you need a 74% exam average in each class to pass the class. As well as a 74% average overall in each class. The former is usually the issue for most students (if not all). At the end of the exam, you can see how many/which questions you got wrong, which of course means you can calculate your pending exam score. Yes, pending. Depending on the statistics of each question (how many people got it wrong/right), you'll either get points back or lose points. How would you lose points? You get a question right, and because the majority of the class got it wrong, it gets thrown out. So you lose that right answer. I've seen people get kicked out of the program because losing those 2 points over having 1 question thrown out puts them below the required 74% average. We've tried fighting it, and were told "this is the way it has been, this is the way it has always been, and you knew that from the beginning of the program".
Communication: it's just not there. Between students and professors, between professors, between administration and students, between administration and professors. Just nonexistent. I don't know how else to put it. You find out about things at the last minute and different sections for the same class will receive different lecture material, including exam tips, so some classes are at an obvious disadvantage. We tried bringing this to the attention of our professors and the administration and were met with complete denial.
Flipped classroom: OH boy. Just mention those words to anyone in my class. Basically, you teach each other. Your professors are just there to take attendance. You go through part of the material with your group and then teach other groups. That's about it.
No transition: transition was supposed to be the last half of your last semester, where you're basically a nurse for free. Every nurse I've spoken with says they didn't learn anything until transition. Sure, you can study and have the knowledge, but really knowing how to apply it and practicing skills doesn't come in until transition. They got rid of it.
There's probably a lot more issues with this program, but these are the ones that have been most prevalent throughout the past year or so. Take it as you will. I know UF has really good ratings and is very highly ranked, and that the fact that it has its own hospital is very appealing from a health-profession standpoint. But genuinely, don't let it fool you. My cohort has lost over 25% of its students. That is, they were kicked out. For not meeting standards. You quickly learn that many of your professors say they want to help, but truly seem to do and say things for your failure. And if that's not the intent, it's certainly how it feels from the students' end.
I'm sorry if this is upsetting. I'm sorry if I've made any of you mad, that is not what I want. I just genuinely feel very strongly that all of you be fully aware of what you're getting into. If you've already accepted your acceptance, try to change things from the get-go. My cohort started too late--halfway through our 1st semester, and then throughout those that followed. We had meetings with faculty and administration. We pleaded for things to change, and in the end, we were told that it was too late for our cohort, that everything was already established for us, but that they would take it into consideration for cohorts after ours. I don't know if they've changed anything. If they have, good. If you start to see what I've said is still true, TAKE ACTION.
I really don't mean to complain. Although this does sound like venting. This is all just information I wish I'd known before I decided on UF. I have good grades, really. But I kill myself for them. I love learning about health and I've had a passion for helping others all my life. But I am unhappy. I feel completely unprepared for a career in nursing. The only thing that makes me feel better is that I'm not the only one.”
2 minutes ago, Elizaveta S said:Hi!! Thank you for your comment. Wow. It is very unexpected to say the least. I was not able to find the thread you mentioned. Would love to read the details on that.
I don’t think that at this point we would deny the offer, if we are accepted. In my case it’s the closest possible start date, hence I can start making $$ sooner. I heard that it’s easy to get a job after this program, and academically it is strong. This is the most important to me. I can deal with bureaucracy and disorganized structure. I’m from Russia, it’s basically all that there x 1000.
but certainly knowing that before starting the program is a huge deal, thank you for coming here and sharing this with us.
"
Apr 3, 2020
Hey all, I'm a current student in the UF nursing program in Gainesville, graduating this year (2020).
Seriously consider other schools to study nursing. UF was my first choice when I was applying, and had been for years, so I was ecstatic when I found out I was accepted. I didn't even consider other programs. But as the semesters have gone, I really wish I would have gone somewhere else. My reasons (and just about everyone else's in this program) (seriously, talk to any of them):
Disorganization: exams are scheduled in conflict with one another and with classes. We have to go to events and meetings that are scheduled during class time, but the meetings are mandatory (they take attendance and will email you about it) and all classes take attendance. You'll find out about meetings like this a few days before it takes place, and it'll always conveniently be on exam weeks.
Readings: I'm all for working hard. I don't have an issue with how difficult material is, in my opinion, it's what we all sign up for. However, we are human and have limits—there is only so much you can go through and absorb every day. After meeting with professors about material for guidance, it is clear that, at times, they merely glance at the chapter title and assign the whole thing…for numerous chapters/week. However, professors will constantly look at you with bewilderment and say "that's outside of your scope, why are you studying that?" when you ask questions about material that was assigned that you don't understand.
Exams: Alright, here's how exams go-- you need a 74% exam average in each class to pass the class. As well as a 74% average overall in each class. The former is usually the issue for most students (if not all). At the end of the exam, you can see how many/which questions you got wrong, which of course means you can calculate your pending exam score. Yes, pending. Depending on the statistics of each question (how many people got it wrong/right), you'll either get points back or lose points. How would you lose points? You get a question right, and because the majority of the class got it wrong, it gets thrown out. So you lose that right answer. I've seen people get kicked out of the program because losing those 2 points over having 1 question thrown out puts them below the required 74% average. We've tried fighting it, and were told "this is the way it has been, this is the way it has always been, and you knew that from the beginning of the program".
Communication: it's just not there. Between students and professors, between professors, between administration and students, between administration and professors. Just nonexistent. I don't know how else to put it. You find out about things at the last minute and different sections for the same class will receive different lecture material, including exam tips, so some classes are at an obvious disadvantage. We tried bringing this to the attention of our professors and the administration and were met with complete denial.
Flipped classroom: OH boy. Just mention those words to anyone in my class. Basically, you teach each other. Your professors are just there to take attendance. You go through part of the material with your group and then teach other groups. That's about it.
No transition: transition was supposed to be the last half of your last semester, where you're basically a nurse for free. Every nurse I've spoken with says they didn't learn anything until transition. Sure, you can study and have the knowledge, but really knowing how to apply it and practicing skills doesn't come in until transition. They got rid of it.
There's probably a lot more issues with this program, but these are the ones that have been most prevalent throughout the past year or so. Take it as you will. I know UF has really good ratings and is very highly ranked, and that the fact that it has its own hospital is very appealing from a health-profession standpoint. But genuinely, don't let it fool you. My cohort has lost over 25% of its students. That is, they were kicked out. For not meeting standards. You quickly learn that many of your professors say they want to help, but truly seem to do and say things for your failure. And if that's not the intent, it's certainly how it feels from the students' end.
I'm sorry if this is upsetting. I'm sorry if I've made any of you mad, that is not what I want. I just genuinely feel very strongly that all of you be fully aware of what you're getting into. If you've already accepted your acceptance, try to change things from the get-go. My cohort started too late--halfway through our 1st semester, and then throughout those that followed. We had meetings with faculty and administration. We pleaded for things to change, and in the end, we were told that it was too late for our cohort, that everything was already established for us, but that they would take it into consideration for cohorts after ours. I don't know if they've changed anything. If they have, good. If you start to see what I've said is still true, TAKE ACTION.
I really don't mean to complain. Although this does sound like venting. This is all just information I wish I'd known before I decided on UF. I have good grades, really. But I kill myself for them. I love learning about health and I've had a passion for helping others all my life. But I am unhappy. I feel completely unprepared for a career in nursing. The only thing that makes me feel better is that I'm not the only one."
Not from me! Just reposting!
14 minutes ago, ufanon said:Current student here...
I really hate to say this, but this is an ongoing trend with UF CON especially the ABSN program.
The disorganization only starts here and I'm really sorry to see all of this happening to you all.
If I were you, I would seriously reconsider doing this program if accepted. I would definitely not recommend it. There is a good post on UF Accelerated BSN Summer 2020 toward the very end that was a great summary of all the BS this program puts you through...
If you all want certain examples then I would gladly give some.
The professors are really great (for the most part), but the admin side is very messed up. Like stated, the advisors unfortunately are the messengers for bad news, but they don't really have any control over these things.
I really hope you get some answers soon.
I would love examples! I am currently between choosing this program and a registered dietician program at UNE. Choosing UF would mean taking my children away from their father and friends. I would hate to make the wrong decision and then regret it because I'm miserable in the program.
12 minutes ago, PrincessWarlord said:"
Apr 3, 2020
Hey all, I'm a current student in the UF nursing program in Gainesville, graduating this year (2020).
Seriously consider other schools to study nursing. UF was my first choice when I was applying, and had been for years, so I was ecstatic when I found out I was accepted. I didn't even consider other programs. But as the semesters have gone, I really wish I would have gone somewhere else. My reasons (and just about everyone else's in this program) (seriously, talk to any of them):
Disorganization: exams are scheduled in conflict with one another and with classes. We have to go to events and meetings that are scheduled during class time, but the meetings are mandatory (they take attendance and will email you about it) and all classes take attendance. You'll find out about meetings like this a few days before it takes place, and it'll always conveniently be on exam weeks.
Readings: I'm all for working hard. I don't have an issue with how difficult material is, in my opinion, it's what we all sign up for. However, we are human and have limits—there is only so much you can go through and absorb every day. After meeting with professors about material for guidance, it is clear that, at times, they merely glance at the chapter title and assign the whole thing…for numerous chapters/week. However, professors will constantly look at you with bewilderment and say "that's outside of your scope, why are you studying that?" when you ask questions about material that was assigned that you don't understand.
Exams: Alright, here's how exams go-- you need a 74% exam average in each class to pass the class. As well as a 74% average overall in each class. The former is usually the issue for most students (if not all). At the end of the exam, you can see how many/which questions you got wrong, which of course means you can calculate your pending exam score. Yes, pending. Depending on the statistics of each question (how many people got it wrong/right), you'll either get points back or lose points. How would you lose points? You get a question right, and because the majority of the class got it wrong, it gets thrown out. So you lose that right answer. I've seen people get kicked out of the program because losing those 2 points over having 1 question thrown out puts them below the required 74% average. We've tried fighting it, and were told "this is the way it has been, this is the way it has always been, and you knew that from the beginning of the program".
Communication: it's just not there. Between students and professors, between professors, between administration and students, between administration and professors. Just nonexistent. I don't know how else to put it. You find out about things at the last minute and different sections for the same class will receive different lecture material, including exam tips, so some classes are at an obvious disadvantage. We tried bringing this to the attention of our professors and the administration and were met with complete denial.
Flipped classroom: OH boy. Just mention those words to anyone in my class. Basically, you teach each other. Your professors are just there to take attendance. You go through part of the material with your group and then teach other groups. That's about it.
No transition: transition was supposed to be the last half of your last semester, where you're basically a nurse for free. Every nurse I've spoken with says they didn't learn anything until transition. Sure, you can study and have the knowledge, but really knowing how to apply it and practicing skills doesn't come in until transition. They got rid of it.
There's probably a lot more issues with this program, but these are the ones that have been most prevalent throughout the past year or so. Take it as you will. I know UF has really good ratings and is very highly ranked, and that the fact that it has its own hospital is very appealing from a health-profession standpoint. But genuinely, don't let it fool you. My cohort has lost over 25% of its students. That is, they were kicked out. For not meeting standards. You quickly learn that many of your professors say they want to help, but truly seem to do and say things for your failure. And if that's not the intent, it's certainly how it feels from the students' end.
I'm sorry if this is upsetting. I'm sorry if I've made any of you mad, that is not what I want. I just genuinely feel very strongly that all of you be fully aware of what you're getting into. If you've already accepted your acceptance, try to change things from the get-go. My cohort started too late--halfway through our 1st semester, and then throughout those that followed. We had meetings with faculty and administration. We pleaded for things to change, and in the end, we were told that it was too late for our cohort, that everything was already established for us, but that they would take it into consideration for cohorts after ours. I don't know if they've changed anything. If they have, good. If you start to see what I've said is still true, TAKE ACTION.
I really don't mean to complain. Although this does sound like venting. This is all just information I wish I'd known before I decided on UF. I have good grades, really. But I kill myself for them. I love learning about health and I've had a passion for helping others all my life. But I am unhappy. I feel completely unprepared for a career in nursing. The only thing that makes me feel better is that I'm not the only one."
Not from me! Just reposting!
***. This is crazy. Just plain crazy. I don’t even know what to think about that. Thank you for sharing though...
This seem like a complete and total nightmare. And the system with exams is the most terrifying one. How is this even possible to “throw out” the question you already answer and got right????
ladies what are your thoughts on all this?!?
24 minutes ago, ufanon said:Current student here...
I really hate to say this, but this is an ongoing trend with UF CON especially the ABSN program.
The disorganization only starts here and I'm really sorry to see all of this happening to you all.
If I were you, I would seriously reconsider doing this program if accepted. I would definitely not recommend it. There is a good post on UF Accelerated BSN Summer 2020 toward the very end that was a great summary of all the BS this program puts you through...
If you all want certain examples then I would gladly give some.
The professors are really great (for the most part), but the admin side is very messed up. Like stated, the advisors unfortunately are the messengers for bad news, but they don't really have any control over these things.
I really hope you get some answers soon.
Ohh man, that’s not good news ? That sounds awful! Could you share some examples?? I really need to know whether or not it’s worth putting myself through this and if I’m just better off going elsewhere... I really don’t want to because UF is my first choice, but I also have to do what’s best just like everyone else in this thread and I know for sure we all want yo receive the best education and become well prepared nurses. Please, spill the tea because just like myself, e all deserve to know what’s really happening and what the program is like. Bless you.
17 minutes ago, PrincessWarlord said:"
Apr 3, 2020
Hey all, I'm a current student in the UF nursing program in Gainesville, graduating this year (2020).
Seriously consider other schools to study nursing. UF was my first choice when I was applying, and had been for years, so I was ecstatic when I found out I was accepted. I didn't even consider other programs. But as the semesters have gone, I really wish I would have gone somewhere else. My reasons (and just about everyone else's in this program) (seriously, talk to any of them):
Disorganization: exams are scheduled in conflict with one another and with classes. We have to go to events and meetings that are scheduled during class time, but the meetings are mandatory (they take attendance and will email you about it) and all classes take attendance. You'll find out about meetings like this a few days before it takes place, and it'll always conveniently be on exam weeks.
Readings: I'm all for working hard. I don't have an issue with how difficult material is, in my opinion, it's what we all sign up for. However, we are human and have limits—there is only so much you can go through and absorb every day. After meeting with professors about material for guidance, it is clear that, at times, they merely glance at the chapter title and assign the whole thing…for numerous chapters/week. However, professors will constantly look at you with bewilderment and say "that's outside of your scope, why are you studying that?" when you ask questions about material that was assigned that you don't understand.
Exams: Alright, here's how exams go-- you need a 74% exam average in each class to pass the class. As well as a 74% average overall in each class. The former is usually the issue for most students (if not all). At the end of the exam, you can see how many/which questions you got wrong, which of course means you can calculate your pending exam score. Yes, pending. Depending on the statistics of each question (how many people got it wrong/right), you'll either get points back or lose points. How would you lose points? You get a question right, and because the majority of the class got it wrong, it gets thrown out. So you lose that right answer. I've seen people get kicked out of the program because losing those 2 points over having 1 question thrown out puts them below the required 74% average. We've tried fighting it, and were told "this is the way it has been, this is the way it has always been, and you knew that from the beginning of the program".
Communication: it's just not there. Between students and professors, between professors, between administration and students, between administration and professors. Just nonexistent. I don't know how else to put it. You find out about things at the last minute and different sections for the same class will receive different lecture material, including exam tips, so some classes are at an obvious disadvantage. We tried bringing this to the attention of our professors and the administration and were met with complete denial.
Flipped classroom: OH boy. Just mention those words to anyone in my class. Basically, you teach each other. Your professors are just there to take attendance. You go through part of the material with your group and then teach other groups. That's about it.
No transition: transition was supposed to be the last half of your last semester, where you're basically a nurse for free. Every nurse I've spoken with says they didn't learn anything until transition. Sure, you can study and have the knowledge, but really knowing how to apply it and practicing skills doesn't come in until transition. They got rid of it.
There's probably a lot more issues with this program, but these are the ones that have been most prevalent throughout the past year or so. Take it as you will. I know UF has really good ratings and is very highly ranked, and that the fact that it has its own hospital is very appealing from a health-profession standpoint. But genuinely, don't let it fool you. My cohort has lost over 25% of its students. That is, they were kicked out. For not meeting standards. You quickly learn that many of your professors say they want to help, but truly seem to do and say things for your failure. And if that's not the intent, it's certainly how it feels from the students' end.
I'm sorry if this is upsetting. I'm sorry if I've made any of you mad, that is not what I want. I just genuinely feel very strongly that all of you be fully aware of what you're getting into. If you've already accepted your acceptance, try to change things from the get-go. My cohort started too late--halfway through our 1st semester, and then throughout those that followed. We had meetings with faculty and administration. We pleaded for things to change, and in the end, we were told that it was too late for our cohort, that everything was already established for us, but that they would take it into consideration for cohorts after ours. I don't know if they've changed anything. If they have, good. If you start to see what I've said is still true, TAKE ACTION.
I really don't mean to complain. Although this does sound like venting. This is all just information I wish I'd known before I decided on UF. I have good grades, really. But I kill myself for them. I love learning about health and I've had a passion for helping others all my life. But I am unhappy. I feel completely unprepared for a career in nursing. The only thing that makes me feel better is that I'm not the only one."
Not from me! Just reposting!
Not gonna lie reading this made me sick to my stomach. I work in a hospital now and it has taught me so much more than I would know otherwise. It is frightening that they got rid of transition period. Ugh now I’m stressed even more
OK. So. Do you think we can send an email to Ken to find out if the program still has transition period and what is the grading system for the tests? These are two main concerns that are critical.
Or is it completely out of line sending an email like this? Basically risking (maybe) eliminating our chances to get admitted?
34 minutes ago, Elizaveta S said:***. This is crazy. Just plain crazy. I don’t even know what to think about that. Thank you for sharing though...
This seem like a complete and total nightmare. And the system with exams is the most terrifying one. How is this even possible to “throw out” the question you already answer and got right????
ladies what are your thoughts on all this?!?
Honestly, this whole situation is making me consider even stronger into going into a registered dietician program. I was between UF, UMass, and an RD program at UNE. I'm going to talk to my husband about just doing the RD program instead. I'm 39 years old and really don't want to deal with the stress of a program like that or of nursing, for that matter. I've been asking for a sign to point me in the right direction. The current events and these two posts make me believe that an RD degree might be better for me...
46 minutes ago, Bri2399 said:Not gonna lie reading this made me sick to my stomach. I work in a hospital now and it has taught me so much more than I would know otherwise. It is frightening that they got rid of transition period. Ugh now I’m stressed even more
The only thing in that message from last year above^ that has changed is the exam section. We currently do not have the 74% exam average, but I do not know if that will change for the next cohort. I also think they did away with people losing points if they throw away a question (not sure if this just never happened with us for if they figured out a better way). There is still no transition period like they mentioned.
This program is pricey, save about $1000+ for the first semester in just textbooks, computer programs, along with supplies (some of which you will barely use past first semester.)
We were told to buy a kit first and second semester and paid around 300+ for it and most of it is still sitting in my closet.
We have all these unneeded cost for different programs like MyClinicalExchange (around $40) and CastleBranch ($200 that you have to buy in the first few weeks after acceptance) which are basically the same thing. The newest thing is that we now have to pay $10 to TAKE OUR HESI. That is just for the proctoring, so it's $10 for the test, $10 for the retake, and another $10 for the specialty exam which starts in second semester. Those costs over time add up and it is unclear why this isn't covered in tuition.
We had an incident last semester when the proctoring was turned off for one of our exams and they didn't realize until 20 min in and some people were told they can retake the exam immediately after finishing, others were not told and we lost time on the exam because the clock didn't stop, this resulted in multiple people not finishing the exam. We were then told we can retake the exam 4 days later on a Friday when we had another exam scheduled on Monday and we we took it our last exam score was deleted. So basically some got an advantage and others did not.
You will teach yourself everything in this program. The flipped classroom is basically you sitting and reading and doing assignments all day every day. This lightened up around 3rd semester, but I found the first semester it was a LOT of busy work.
You will find everything out the last minute. We had NO clue what this semester was gonna be like until our first day back in January. We are currently in clinical and our lectures are online. It was very hard to plan because you find everything out so last minute. They would tell us that we didn't need to come to campus until a certain date and then we would get an email that we actually needed to come and do something way before then. This doesn't sound too bad, but keep in mind we were online for a while and lot of people did not live in the state or in the area of our campus. This was very frustrating as we had to change work schedules, childcare schedules, and some even had to drive across the state at the drop of a hat.
We still have no idea what next semester holds and I wouldn't be surprised if we found out like a week before. You will find out about exam/ grade averages probably when the syllabuses come out for next semester. (Which will not be for a while.)
I can really write a book on all the things messed up with this program.
I posted a breakdown of the grading scale from one of our syllabuses.
But....There are some upsides to this program. UF Health is a magnet hospital and they really like to hire new grads. It's a teaching hospital so the staff is very pleasant and you don't feel like a bother most of the time. The professors are very smart and knowledgable, unfortunately our cohort did not have a lot of didactic time with them early on and I felt like our grades suffered because of that. The structure of the courses is not great.
Lastly, I had some issues with a faculty member and I went higher up about it, not only was I basically called a liar, they almost completely dismissed me and my concerns.
You just have to weigh the pros and cons.
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Glad I'm not the only one feeling stressed with the uncertainty of decisions coming out. I feel like we should have known two times over! What has me mainly concerned is my spot on the waitlist for another school. They need to make their decisions by Monday at 8am and I'm sure lots of people are waiting for UF and UCF decisions. I'm scared that by them not releasing decisions soon, more people will have to RSVP to the other school because of the possibility of not getting accepted anywhere else- making it harder for people to move off of the waitlist. I'm staying optimistic that I get accepted to UF though but is a fear thats running through my head