Two ICU Vent Patients placed on a med/surg floor with no charge nurse....

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I'm just going to throw this out there.. I'm a little worried about my job, and my license. Nothing has happened YET to harm me or my license.. But let me just explain what is going on. (and hope this whole time that my employer does not read this)

Where I work, I was hired as an ICU nurse. The facility is new and the ICU is not open yet. They told me in December when I was hired that it would open in January, in the meantime I'm working on the only floor that is open, med/surg. It is an LTAC. Everyone is nice there, but that really doesn't go far when you've got the problems that this hospital has.

The last few weekends I have been having a terrible time at work. I have been dubbed the unofficial charge nurse of this place and on the weekends I am, again, the unofficial "house supervisor" while having a few patients myself.

It didn't really bother me at first because I knew that someone needed to do it and really the patients were not that ill. I mean, they were ill, but stable and not getting worse or better.

But, now we have a house full of patients that can go either way in a heartbeat. Two weeks ago I had a terrible day and BEGGED the manager to come in. She basically told me to deal with it, she wasn't coming in, she had better things to do and that the nurses need to be more independent.. WHAT??! Okay, so I dealt with it.

Then, the other day, we had a patient code. He coded for several hours and we saved his life. Now he's on a vent, in the med/surg unit. Now, this floor is not condusive to an ICU patient AT ALL. The patient is at THE END OF THE HALLWAY. The powers that be seem to think that if we have an ICU nurse then we are able to handle it.

Well, it is madness. There is no backup for the ICU nurse, and that first day I found myself leaving my vent patient and walking all the way down to the nursing desk just to take a pee break, or to BEG SOMEONE to break me out,, only to see all the nurses scatter from the desk like they are cochroaches and I just turned on the lightswitch.

So, anyway, this morning my back was hurting sooo bad that I called in. I made sure there was enough staff to take care of the patients first, and then I told them I wasn't coming. I didn't get into trouble and this is not the issue. But I found out just now that they had the day from hell up there. That there was NO leadership, no charge nurse and the powers that be still seem to think we can be alright like this. She even announced that we will be admitting another ICU patient tomorrow into the med/surg floor.... a patient on a vent. Again, as long as we have one ICU nurse, we are alright.

NOT.

I don't know about you other ICU nurses, but with me, I can't work alone. I always like there to be atleast one other ICU nurse there so we can meld our thoughts and think through things. I find it scary to EVEN THINK about having two vent patients, alone, on a med/surg floor. How can you be in two rooms at once???? It's not possible. It is just not. And you can't leave your ICU patients alone, by themselves!!

On top of all this, I am assumed to take the leadership role. The nurses will all come to me with their charge nurse stuff, and I will be feeling too guilty to turn them away, where else will they be able to go to if they need help?? No one. There is no one else, that is why it was such a bad day today.

I was advised by a very good friend of mine that works there also to call in again tomorrow. I don't know what to do. I know that I want to protect my license. That is my number one goal. But I also feel sorry for these patients!

What in the world should I do???!?! Help me... someone, please... You all have given me good advice before... I need it now. Thanks :)

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

That sounds like a highly irregular situation. Is the patient in question on telemetry or a heart monitor with continuous O2 saturation monitoring? Does your facility have RT on at night?

It sounds to me as if this facility is one that is trying to skate by and has some irresponsible people in charge. If you are a seasoned ICU nurse, you are highly employable and could get another job in a heartbeat, so you should have some clout here. If you live in a small area, then you could easily line up agency shifts at premium wages. There is an endless need for ICU night shifts, even in this economy.

If you are in a small hospital, there might be a good chance that you are alone with 2 ICU patients once their unit has opened. I once worked in a small hospital in a small ICU. When I worked at night and the census was low, I was alone in the unit with med/surg around the corner. There was no RT at night, I was my own unit secretary and did my own vent checks. If I had any problems I could press the code button and get a makeshift rapid response team pretty quickly. I didn't really feel alone, in other words.

Specializes in ICU/Critical Care.

You need to find a different place to work because this one is putting your license on the line here. The longer you "deal" with this dangerous situation, the longer it will continue.

Specializes in ICU.

THanks everyone for their replies. I am at home today. I was so stressed about going to work last night after I got a call from my coworker that I was making myself physically ill. That has never happened to me before. That should be a sign.

The patient is on a vent, Levophed (norepi) drip, he is on telemetry with a portable monitor in the room that has continous O2 sat monitoring. However, this same patient who was circling the drain was not on any kind of monitoring when I walked in the other morning just before we coded him-- Even though he was diaphoretic, tachypnic, tachycardic and hypotensive. I walked in that morning at shift change and basically saved this patient's life . The other nurses were not trained to know when a patient is in serious trouble... either that or they were too lazy to do anything about it, one or the other.

These are the kinds of nurses that I am working with here. They are rehab nurses and most of them do barely enough to keep their jobs.

Oh yeah,,, and No, the alarm to the vent is not hooked up to the call light system. There is an RT there but she seems to want to be gone most of the time. Heck, she has a job to do too. Anyway, so I'm off until atleast Saturday, and I have an interview at an awesome local ICU. I would love to go to work there.. I know they have their stuff together. I would be proud of myself to work there... NOT scared to work there. lol

Thanks everyone for all the advice, it does really help. :)

Specializes in ICU, Education.

I would not keep calling in because this will jeopardize your getting another job (you could be labeled as not re-hirable). I would definitely quit. You are jeopardizing your license there. Very scary sounding place. I cannot believe the docs allow their patients to be cared for in this way!

Specializes in Critical Care.

Run, dude, run!!!!

Specializes in critical care; community health; psych.

Management will go as far as you are willing to go. Can you negotiate this? Tell them you'll accept the two ICU patients and only those patients as your assignment. If they want you to be charge, give you one critical patient and make it official. It's a middle ground solution, not an all or nothing. You seem to have some bargaining ground as the only one willing to take care of vented patients. You were hired as a critical care nurse and you will function as one but not both.

Specializes in ICU.
Run, dude, run!!!!

lol, in my head I hear " RUN FOR---ESSSSSTT RUUUNNNNNNN!"

I feel your pain! I worked in an LTAC for about two weeks and that was enough fear factor for me! I was the charge RN, sometimes the only RN, w/ an LPN, CNA and an RT. Who informed me after the fact that she was not able to intubate and we were not to call 911 should a pt code. I was confused so I asked the manager who clarified that I was to run the code but we had no lab, no pharmacy, no radiology and no doc in house. None of the RT's were certified to intubate. I gave my immediate resignation the next day, this was 2yrs ago and so the economy was better there were more options. However wont do much good to have your license under investigation by the BON and be suspended until they review the complaint. Remember also if you do something negligent you are liable, it is the facilities job to provide safe staffing, you can always refuse the assingment document it then should something happen the burden of proof lies on the facility as I understand it. Doesnt help in the day to day stress though! Best of luck to you.

Specializes in MEDICAL, SURGICAL, OB-GYNE, SCRUB NURSE.

Anyway, so I'm off until atleast Saturday, and I have an interview at an awesome local ICU. I would love to go to work there.. I know they have their stuff together. I would be proud of myself to work there... NOT scared to work there. lol

Wishing you all the luck in the world for your new job interview!:yeah::yeah::yeah:

Specializes in MEDICAL, SURGICAL, OB-GYNE, SCRUB NURSE.
Anyway, so I'm off until atleast Saturday, and I have an interview at an awesome local ICU. I would love to go to work there.. I know they have their stuff together. I would be proud of myself to work there... NOT scared to work there. lol

Wishing you all the luck in the world for your new job interview!:yeah::yeah::yeah:

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

I can't believe they put someone on Levaphed on a med/surg floor. That's crazy. That really sounds like a flaky facility. I can see doing it in a state of emergency, otherwise they should have transfered the pt.

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