This might make you think twice about which nursing school to go to

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I just thought I would share the link for the pass rate for the RN NCLEX in 2007 at all the Arizona schools. I find it kind of wierd that MCCDNP is all linked into one % for 2007. There are no scores for 2008 yet but I will be looking for it. I wonder if you can call the college and find out what their pass rate is? I want to know what each schools rate is in MCCDNP because this might affect my decision on which school I choose. Sometimes it is not just about getting in, it's also about what school is going to prepare you the best for that test and to be a nurse. :heartbeat Anyways, here is the link http://www.azbn.gov/documents/nclex/Statewide%20Nclex%20Results%20%202003-2007-WEB.pdf hopefully this works.

And vice-versa.

Yeah that's exactly what I just said.

Just because you are having a different time in nursing school doesn't mean everyone...had..the...same...hard...time.

Do you mean different or difficult? Everyone has a different time (since we are all individuals) in nursing school but if you mean difficult which I think you do since you use hard next. Uh no, I'm not having a hard time because that would imply that I can't cut it...rather I'm having a less than pleasant experience. I enjoyed my other classroom experiences but NS just sucks monkey nuts for lack of a better description.

And it doesnt' mean that the teachers all had fragile egos.

Never said all...never used the word once. Please stop reading more into what I am writing than what I am actually writing. That has been the problem since I made my first post in this thread...you just keep reading what I am writing and putting more meaning into it then I ever meant for there to be.

In the same fashion that everyone doesn't have the same experiences ALL nursing instructors don't have fragile egos. Some nursing instructors are wonderful but yes there really are some instructors who are egomaniacs who pretend to know more than they do and they shouldn't be teaching anyone anything....like ever.

Whenever I hear that I think, "excuses"

Btw, what am I making excuses for? I have nothing to make excuses for. I was just sharing my personal experiences. I never said terrible witch nurse so and so failed me or wants to fail me cuz she has a fragile ego.

This is a discussion board. We are discussing. If you don't like what you are hearing then feel free to leave the discussion.

*Shrugs shoulders* Feel free to take your own advice.

Honestly, when the OP started this thread I just came in with my little :twocents: I never expected it to turn into some heated debate over who is worthy of being a nursing student. It's terribly unfortunate that you are taking offense to my every word because it's really not that serious. You know with the economy, the war, and global warming this ranks about a -10 on a scale from 1-10.

To the OP I wish you all the best in NS.

Choose your school as wisely as you can but if you pick a school that isn't that great make it work for you anyway. If they only pass a handful of students per years then just make sure you are one of the passers. Be proactive in your education. Don't wait for the instructor to help you out...buy study guides, suscribe to journals, and join student nursing organizations. Study hard, keep your mouth closed, and ears open...and watch out for those fragile egos.

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Specializes in Cardiac.

You're funny.

I didn't think this was a heated debate at all. In fact, if you think this is heated then you've never been in a really heated debate, lol.

This is still a discussion, and I quite like it. I have no intention of leaving. Nope. I love talking about standards, testing, grades, stuff like that.

You should check out some HESI threads for heated!

This thread has not hit a nerve with me or made me mad. Sad that it did for you.

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I'm not merely funny...according to my friends and family I'm a fricken riot...absolutely hilarious. If nursing doesn't work out for me then I'm going into stand up comedy. :smokin:

I think the topic of this thread was: "This might make you think twice about which nursing school to go to" Am I correct or is that also subject for cross examination?

I don't mind discussions or debates but since there are really no more relevant points of discussion to be had here I don't want to be sucked into a toddler like exchange of witticisms and one liners. Like "oh...oh snap (going old school here) that's real cold she said that she is sorry she struck a nerve with me....dang how will I top that!? :confused:

Chill out (another old school one for you) it's really NOT that serious and I mean that with no malice.

Have a nice day :up:

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Specializes in Cardiac.

I guess the point is, I'm not debating YOU! I am mearly discussing this topic. A topic that I love to discuss endlessly. In fact, I have proudly earned demerits for this very topic.

And I'm not taking it or you seriously!

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I disagree.

I believe in clear cut expectations. Sorry but when I was in undergrad the expectations were laid out for all to know about from day one. Same thing when I was in my MSEd program all of the expectations for progress and graduation were laid out from day one...not day 99.

It's called respecting an adults right to make an informed decision.

If I had known about some of the crap that my school was going to pull on us then you had better believe that I would have chosen a different school to attend. That doesn't make me less dedicated to the profession of nursing or less responsible than anyone else. It merely means that I hate being jerked around and lied to. That said my tuition is paid up and nursing courses are non-transferable so I'm not going to risk having to start all over again. I know that I have to keep my very humble opinions to myself even when I can clearly see that the emperor is as naked as a jaybird. It's the total opposite from everything that I was taught in undergrad and grad school where the objective was to actually explore and learn through respectful debate.

Nursing has a weird culture.

It's almost like you are expected to bend over and grab your ankles in order to prove that you really want to become an RN. I know that some of it is because the nature of nursing at times is that you have to be able to follow very exact orders. However, aren't we also supposed to be patient advocates who can and will question what is questionable? Hmmmm, I don't know how you are supposed to have enough of a spine left after nursing school to question anything when all you do in school is nod and say yes ma'am no ma'am in order to keep your instructors fragile ego intact. :twocents:

Nursing does have a weird culture. If school causes this kind of concern - wait until you start working as an RN. It does not get any better. That said, you take from it what works for you - and net-net, I found a job where I can ignore 90% of the culture. Works for me.

I also have a Masters degree and 12 years of business experience. The kind of experience where becoming a nurse was a horrendous paycut. So I approached nursing school with a fresh, albeit world weary perspective. In my experience (i.e.: I am not "lumping" you in with it), there was a certain group in my nursing class who tended to be "mouthy" and view any slight change/bump in the road as a vast conspiracy on the part of the instructors. The instructors could have written the requirements in stone, and they would have inevitably found fault that they were not informed of all the requirements. Fortunately, most failed. As they should have. And guess what - I work with nurses like that too (must have passed their math test with a 90%).

But look at it this way. Even if your school suddenly changed requirements on y'all (frankly, based on MY experience, I don't buy it), so what? Wait until you work as an RN - change is everywhere. Your day is a never-ending grind of change and improvisation. You take change - and you deal with it.

Nothing personal - but allow me to write a disclaimer "THIS POST REFLECTS MY BELIEFS ALONE."

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You're missing the point.

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I'm missing the point? Why because I question your absolute judgement? You definitely have a lot to learn. Number one, you're not always right. Number two, stop being so condescending to those who disagree with you or offer a differing opinion. Number three, ... oh never mind. I've been around long enough to know when a case is hopeless. No offense.:smokin:

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Specializes in ICU, Research, Corrections.
At least they told her at the beginning of her program and at the beginning of the semester. How about when they decide that you must pass your calculations exam with a 90% during the final semester with two tries after it's too late in the semester for a tuition refund?

90% :cry:

It was 100% at my nursing school for every single semester.

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I agree completely- we had >400 apply, 150 accepted, 49 grads, 100% pass rate. If you go to such a school be ready for the ride of your life- it was soul-crushing stress the whole way through but by gosh I am an RN :>

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Specializes in Critical Care; ICU; CCU.

Thank you for that link - interesting information. I went to a community college in IL which had a 98% pass rate for NCLEX for several years running. I have mixed feelings about how much to rely on that. It seemed that they were very hard on students in some aspects which only seemed to "weed out" people to keep up their pass rate. I wasn't 100% convinced we were taught more as much as average people were pushed out of the program.

I agree with the person who posted to check into what hospitals are in the program for the schools and the hours and days of clinicals. It may seem an inconvenience, but you will be better prepared when you graduate if you had more clinical, hands on time. Practicing in the lab at school helps, but it is NOT the same.

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What about a list for Missouri Nursing schools?

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Does anyone know the link for NCLEX results for MI? I have looked and looked and looked and cannot find them anywhere. Thanks

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Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

Looking at a school's NCLEX pass rate does not tell you anything about the quality of their school. Any school can increase their pass rates by making the curriculum extremely hard; this way only the best of the best will make it through to the end, and only graduates take the NCLEX

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