This makes me SOOOOOOO mad!!!!!!!!

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I have been trying to get readmitted into a nursing school right now, and I have found it is so much harder to get into nursing school then it used to be (I was as nursing major right out of high school but changed majors). I am still trying to get in. People are turned away left and right from being able to enter into a nursing program across the US. I was talking to my father in the last week and he said he'd read in the newspaper or seen on the news where the government is going to start bringing in nurses from other countries (with lower pay expectations I am sure) to help with the nursing shortage. IF THERE IS SUCH A NURSING SHORTAGE, WHY WON'T THEY MAKE IT EASIER TO GET INTO NURSING SCHOOLS???!!!!!!!! I am frustrated and really angry about that. Do you know what's going to happen to nurses pay when that happens? I am a medical transcriptionist and of course as most of you know now days because of the Internet a lot of work gets sent overseas to India, Pakistan, etc, where they are paid peanuts, and thus effecting American MT pay in a negative sense by lowering our wages. Something needs to change. They need to open more nursing schools, focus on nursing education funding, etc. I don't see this as a good thing and I am sure will effect American nurses pay if that becomes the answer to the nursing shortage.

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Where's a match when you need one? :devil: :nono:

Yeah, that is why I don't buy the "most of the refineries are in Louisiana" excuse our politicians have been handing us.

Sorry for the temporary hijack :)

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In response to those who posted about 500 applicants and close to 1000 applicants, with only 125 to be accepted-- well, that is exactly what I mean, what the government needs to do is provide grants for more nursing education and instructors, more schools, whatever, instead of trying to fix the problem by bringing them from overseas.

I mean hey if they can't ship out our jobs out fast enough, why not just bring them here to take our jobs too?

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Well if you had a strong GPA you could apply to Fresno State. It's GPA based only. But since you are having trouble i sense that maybe you're GPA isn't exactly in the 3.7ish caliber.

Perhaps you can redo some courses to update you're GPA. otherwise, you can wait it out in city college with the long waiting lists, or try you're luck on the lottery.

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Although I hate to see good applicants go without a school, the 125 that were admitted to my program is down to fewer than 80 facing graduation in the next six months. So, I'm thinking part of the problem lies with selecting the candidates most likely to actually make it to licensure.

Also, the shortage is not of the number of nursing schools but of instructors and even more critically, with clinical space in which to teach, both of which limit how fast each nursing school can grow.

Until the supply of instructors meets demand, market forces beyond any government control will dictate how much our brains' contents are worth on the open market, whether doctor, lawyer, indian chief, MT, RN, etc.

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I am a single mother with two young boys. I do not have the time nor the MONEY to take classes over. I need to get in a nursing program with what I have now-- I have most prereq's completed although some schools because of time past want me to take them over (one male nurse I talked to in an ER visit recently thinks it's all about money, that the schools make money off that so that's a large reason why they require it).

Also, while I was a nursing major I made pretty good grades in all the prereq classes. I'm trying to get all my transcripts to a BSN program, then see what happens from there. It's just amazing all the hoops they make you jump through now. The first time around because of my high school GPA and classes I was accepted right in. This one program I am looking into now seems pretty flexible though and willing to work with you and letting you do additional required coursework along with nursing courses, which is pretty different from most nursing schools I've been looking into.

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. I was talking to my father in the last week and he said he'd read in the newspaper or seen on the news where the government is going to start bringing in nurses from other countries (with lower pay expectations I am sure) to help with the nursing shortage. IF THERE IS SUCH A NURSING SHORTAGE, WHY WON'T THEY MAKE IT EASIER TO GET INTO NURSING SCHOOLS???!!!!!!!! I am frustrated and really angry about that. Do you know what's going to happen to nurses pay when that happens?

a) Foreign nurses have been brought to this country to work for many, many years now so I doubt that the profession is going to implode any time soon.

b) Since its inception, nursing has been underpaid, overworked and undervalued. Coincidentally, the nursing profession in this country has been dominated by White female Americans. I honestly don't think that "foreign" nurses is going to change things much for the worse. It's hardly a highly paid nirvana now.

c) I am against making it easier to get into nursing school for the just for the sake of churning out more nurses. There is a thread in nursing news in which at least in one state something like 25% of students do not graduate because they are not academically prepared to do the work. That is what happens when you let anybody in because "anybody can be a nurse".

d) Which brings me to: have you explored why you haven't been able to get in? Instead of turning your anger against immigrant nurses, maybe you can go over your gameplan and find out where you are falling down.

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I am not falling down in anything, and please don't make assumptions and statements about my efforts to get back into nursing school. It's just more difficult now to get in then it used to be. I had no problems in my two years of nursing school doing the coursework, I was very focused and very studious and I enjoyed the subject matter. That's what makes it a little frustrating too, I KNOW I can do it and I am really ready to get started.

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There has been a concern over the projected nursing shortage and the baby boomers becoming elderly-- the government is proposing as an answer to that shortage to bring in overseas nurses, which would be a lot more than ever before. Yes, I am sure there have always been nurses coming in from overseas, but not in the large numbers that the report insinuated.

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We have some new grads on our floor that waited months to get jobs. I don't think it's a nursing shortage...just an experienced nursing shortage.

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I am not turning my anger at immigrant nurses, hey, I know the possibilities of what could happen if that situation does occur, with my being a medical transcriptionist. I am saying I know there are hundreds of able QUALIFIED (I didn't say warm bodies) applicants trying to get in that are turned away for lack of space. When it's upon us and it's on your doorstep and your losing your job to someone who's willing to be paid half if not a quarter of your current pay, etc ,etc, it'll be more relevant.

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I've read that last year 42,000 qualified applicants were not accepted to nursing school last year. Unfortunately nursing school isn't an easy route to take. Most of those who get in are those that work their butts off. They retake classes for higher grades and spend phenominal amounts of time on studying.

It maybe worth to applying to multiple schools.

I doubt that importing nurses really is going to fix much of anything. It's a temporary fix. There are a lot of new nursing schools springing up, but those aren't an immediate fix either. In my state in the past couple of years about 5 nursing schools have opened up, but there are still over 500 applications to 110 seat nursing programs.

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Respectfully, I suspect that if you were now as you were in high school - good grades, just starting out - you'd be admitted again. Even now it is easier to get into my school as an incoming freshman than as a sophomore, even a sophomore with excellent grades. I had several classmates who were sooooooo glad that they'd declared a major while a junior in high school, because the former pre-med majors and biology majors and so forth with huge gpa's were not getting in.

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