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by cajjj cajjj (Member)

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I have been trying to get readmitted into a nursing school right now, and I have found it is so much harder to get into nursing school then it used to be (I was as nursing major right out of high school but changed majors). I am still trying to get in. People are turned away left and right from being able to enter into a nursing program across the US. I was talking to my father in the last week and he said he'd read in the newspaper or seen on the news where the government is going to start bringing in nurses from other countries (with lower pay expectations I am sure) to help with the nursing shortage. IF THERE IS SUCH A NURSING SHORTAGE, WHY WON'T THEY MAKE IT EASIER TO GET INTO NURSING SCHOOLS???!!!!!!!! I am frustrated and really angry about that. Do you know what's going to happen to nurses pay when that happens? I am a medical transcriptionist and of course as most of you know now days because of the Internet a lot of work gets sent overseas to India, Pakistan, etc, where they are paid peanuts, and thus effecting American MT pay in a negative sense by lowering our wages. Something needs to change. They need to open more nursing schools, focus on nursing education funding, etc. I don't see this as a good thing and I am sure will effect American nurses pay if that becomes the answer to the nursing shortage.

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I've seen this happening alot in the northwest too. I think the problem is that there is a shortage of nursing instructors. They are not being paid what they deserve, so it makes it harder for nurses to take a huge pay hit to teach. My favorite nursing instructor had a PhD and she told us we'd be earning more in the hospital than she was. :(

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If you only make $50,000 teaching nursing and $80,000 in the hospital, what would you do? Thats the problem, there is a chronic nursing shortage, but they're not paying the BSN nurses enough to leave the practice and teach, so schools are limited in how many they can admit.

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I have been trying to get readmitted into a nursing school right now, and I have found it is so much harder to get into nursing school then it used to be (I was as nursing major right out of high school but changed majors). I am still trying to get in. People are turned away left and right from being able to enter into a nursing program across the US. I was talking to my father in the last week and he said he'd read in the newspaper or seen on the news where the government is going to start bringing in nurses from other countries (with lower pay expectations I am sure) to help with the nursing shortage. IF THERE IS SUCH A NURSING SHORTAGE, WHY WON'T THEY MAKE IT EASIER TO GET INTO NURSING SCHOOLS???!!!!!!!! I am frustrated and really angry about that. Do you know what's going to happen to nurses pay when that happens? I am a medical transcriptionist and of course as most of you know now days because of the Internet a lot of work gets sent overseas to India, Pakistan, etc, where they are paid peanuts, and thus effecting American MT pay in a negative sense by lowering our wages. Something needs to change. They need to open more nursing schools, focus on nursing education funding, etc. I don't see this as a good thing and I am sure will effect American nurses pay if that becomes the answer to the nursing shortage.

I personally, don't believe that even if they bring foreign workers over here, that it's going to make that much of a difference.

First of all, it takes money to leave their own country and some of these places you have to be wealthy to start with just to get out. I had a cousin that married a woman from China and it took almost 3 years and thousands of dollars to bring her child over to the states.

Second, you can pay a peanut wage overseas when all it takes is a peanut wage to live. Gas in Saudi Arabia is only 11 cents a gallon...they had a guy on TV spraying it in front of his pumps b/c it was cheaper than water. Yes, people get paid only $100 a month, but you can also rent an apartment for $25.00 per month.

They can't pay these people peanuts for long if they bring them over here, b/c it won't take 2 months before they figure out they are getting shafted in the deal, and the cost of living is what it is.

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I'm sorry you're having trouble. Be persistent and I think you'll realize your dream, :mortarboard: :nurse: even if it might take some time.

The scenario you describe - the MT work being sent overseas. I had no idea. I think it exposes personal, protected health info to everyone who gets on the 'net, doesn't it? That really disturbs me. Not to mention the loss of jobs for Americans like yourself.

The bringing in of foreign nurses - they are pawns to their government. Nurses here, like most Americans, I guess, are victims of intentional globalization. Someone :devil: very powerful and very wealthy, someone :devil: who controls the country and the world pretty much wants it that way. It's all about the bucks, as you stated. :wakeneo: :eek: :banghead: :madface:

But for you personally, either you must persist or you must find some other line of work. I wish you the very best.

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[quote Gas in Saudi Arabia is only 11 cents a gallon...they had a guy on TV spraying it in front of his pumps b/c it was cheaper than water.

Where's a match when you need one? :devil: :nono:

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Cajjj, hang in there. What is the reason you are having trouble getting in? GPA? Many schools have academic fresh start if your first experience turned out to be a disaster. What type of program are you after? What is your time frame? Different programs may have surprisingly different standards. You might consider, for instance, a BSN program rather than an associates or vice versa. Depending on your location, one might be more interested in what you have to offer than another. Keep looking for the best fit.

Remember, you have a package to sell to the school - find out what they are buying and bring it on. In other words, if they tell you that "gpa in sciences" is the main thing they consider, go take some sciences and show them you can deliver. Focus your energies on reaching your goal.

Best of luck.

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To TrudyRN, oh yeah, they send it overseas, which I totally agree is a travesity with regards to our personal medical records, and to me is against HIPAA policy. I think as a whole Americans need to raise cain that they do NOT want their medical reports with their personal private medical information being sent overseas to be transcribed via the Internet in Pakistan, etc. It's all about money honey.

Not too long ago on an MT forum us MT's tried to rally together to start contacting our state representatives about this to see if changes could be made about this. I did contact my state representative. We had also mentioned about writing letters to the editor in newspapers, etc. because I don't think the American public really is aware this takes place.

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In response about lack of instructors and their pay, that is what I am referring to in a sense. There are tons of able bodied individuals here in US applying for nursing schools but being turned away for lack of slots and space, and there are the million and one hurdles you have to get through to be able to get in as well. Why don't they focus more on fixing that problem, the problem that there are not enough nursing schools and instructors to meet the demands of qualified applicants, which there is no lack of from what I hear from different nursing schools.

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I agree about the numbers of applicants --- my school took 500 applications for 125 spots.

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To Hopefull, yes but their being paid peanut wages makes it easier for MT companies to keep our wages down, whether or not it works out for them over in their country is inconsequential, it effects the US MT pay here.

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I agree about the numbers of applicants --- my school took 500 applications for 125 spots.

My 2yr ADN program ranked something like 827 applicants (they probably had over 1000 apply) and took the top 125:uhoh21: ...I am so blessed to have been #41!

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