This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

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Crusades said:

Perhaps. However, no one at the receiving end of Trump's rhetoric has almost been assinated twice in less than 9 weeks. 

Also, Trump says immature high school insults. He has never said directly specified someone as an "existential threat that needs to be eliminated".  Or "put in a bullseye". 

And no one has almost been murder twice in 9 weeks. 

Right.  The fact that a couple of crazy guys tried to kill Trump apparently means that Trump shouldn't be held accountable for his wildly reckless, inappropriate and dangerously violent rhetoric.  You keep pushing that belief.  

I am never going to agree with that childish logic and thinking.  

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Hmph. At least he didn't throw paper towels at them ...

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heron said:

Hmph. At least he didn't throw paper towels at them ...

 Trump did lie to them, though, to agitate them along political lines. In the midst of their personal crisis following unprecedented weather that killed more than 100 people. Trump cannot muster a political message that is supportive, inclusive and hopeful.  He lies instead.  We saw that during COVID. 

He is unfit for office.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Right.  The fact that a couple of crazy guys tried to kill Trump apparently means that Trump shouldn't be held accountable for his wildly reckless, inappropriate and dangerously violent rhetoric.  You keep pushing that belief.  

I am never going to agree with that childish logic and thinking.  

"Some crazy guys"? 

Exactly. So do you think when almost every msm calls him "a threat to democracy, an existential threa that needs to be eliminated, and the  POTUS says to put him in a bullseye" a crazy person might not take that seriously? 

You're right tho. It was just a bunch of "crazy guys" that were part of a riot on Jan.6. 

He should be held accountable but so should the left side and judged by the same standards. No? 

Only narcissist believe they are too superior and do not need to go by the rules they set..... 

https://newlinesinstitute.org/nonstate-actors/operating-under-the-radar-violent-left-wing-extremism-is-becoming-more-dangerous/

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heron said:

Hmph. At least he didn't throw paper towels at them ...

I saw a clip of him tossing boxes of chicken nuggets out ...

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I thought this was an interesting story in the Washington Post this morning about a career IRS agent, responsible for the arrest of child porn distributors, catching drug dealers and returning $12 billion to the US Treasury. He is the kind of person that Trump and Vance want to replace with party loyalists. 

https://wapo.st/4gG5ueZ

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nursej22 said:

I saw a clip of him tossing boxes of chicken nuggets out ...

As my ex used to say, dumb as a box of rocks.

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Crusades said:

 

And no one has almost been murder twice in 9 weeks. 

What about Gerald Ford?

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nursej22 said:

What about Gerald Ford?

She might be trying to make Trump some kind of a martyr.  It's easy to forgive the violent language of a martyr, right? 

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Crusades said:

"Some crazy guys"? 

Exactly. So do you think when almost every msm calls him "a threat to democracy, an existential threa that needs to be eliminated, and the  POTUS says to put him in a bullseye" a crazy person might not take that seriously? 

You're right tho. It was just a bunch of "crazy guys" that were part of a riot on Jan.6. 

He should be held accountable but so should the left side and judged by the same standards. No? 

Only narcissist believe they are too superior and do not need to go by the rules they set..... 

https://newlinesinstitute.org/nonstate-actors/operating-under-the-radar-violent-left-wing-extremism-is-becoming-more-dangerous/

Yes.  The media should tell the truth about Trump.  

Mentally ill and unstable people who believe that violence may be the only way to resolve their issues are too often agitated by violent or imagery. This is a known. 

I don't think the violence on January 6th was visited on the Capitol by crazy people but by people under the under influence of a mentally ill man who agitated them with lies about our elections and warnings that if they didn't fight they would lose their country.  

If we are going to hold people accountable for their violent rhetoric we should start with the most obvious and egregious examples, like Trump.  

That's correct, narcissists don't think that they should be accountable to the rules or laws which govern other people.  Trump is a perfect case study

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nursej22 said:

What about Gerald Ford?

Yes. We have already ascertained the attempted assasination attempts on another Republican president by far left radicals. President Ford. Does this somehow make the 2 attempts on Trump less? 

Now tell me a Democrat that was shot at a basketball game, a Democrat justice that had a murder plot against them. Now tell me 1 instant of real harm against a Democrat because of what Trump said. 

Calling some one a pig or nasty is a whole lot differnt then calling them an existential threat that needs to be eliminated and put in a bullseye. 

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