Now since hospitals are no longer hiring LPN's I think CNAs could possibly have more job requirements later in the future. CNA's already do EKG's and blood draws at some hospitals with further training.
In the LPN course at my college they do not teach IV's, they are told they wont do anything invovling IVs but yet when hired they prepare them! The only thing they cant do is push meds.
Somebody will have to pick up the duties right, or you think Im wrong here?
Well obviously if they pick up more job requirements
they would get a different pay rate DUH!
I was just thinking out loud-who knows.
Oh right, business establishments are quick to throw money at people. They never try to get away with squeezing more work out of people for the same pay.
I recently went to orientation for a phlebotomy course. The guy doing the orientation told us that he was told by a "state official" (I don't know what kind but this is in North Carolina) that in the near future, CNA's will be replacing LPN's altogether. He said he was told that CNAs will be required to take CNA I and II, phlebotomy and medication aide courses and will begin replacing LPN's.
Don't kill the messenger. This is just what we were told when signing up for phlebotomy. I have also begun hearing it from other sources but that is the only semi-official source.
I recently went to orientation for a phlebotomy course. The guy doing the orientation told us that he was told by a "state official" (I don't know what kind but this is in North Carolina) that in the near future, CNA's will be replacing LPN's altogether. He said he was told that CNAs will be required to take CNA I and II, phlebotomy and medication aide courses and will begin replacing LPN's.
Don't kill the messenger. This is just what we were told when signing up for phlebotomy. I have also begun hearing it from other sources but that is the only semi-official source.
This will not happen because a CNA does not have a license like an LVN/LNP, which many duties require. They could get rid of LPNs and have the CNAss do many of the duties and the RNs the rest; but CNAs can not legal replace LPNs all together.
i am in Ontario and what my understanding kind of is right now, is that PSW's (CNA) will be taking on more of the RPN (LPN) role (with training) and RPN's will be taking on more of an RN role. So then there would be more RPN on the floor. The discussion we had about this (and I may be a little off base because it was a while ago) is that the hospitals can pay an RPN less but have them do almost the same as an RN.
This will not happen because a CNA does not have a license like an LVN/LNP, which many duties require. They could get rid of LPNs and have the CNAss do many of the duties and the RNs the rest; but CNAs can not legal replace LPNs all together.
From what the guy described, I think that is the idea.
i am in Ontario and what my understanding kind of is right now, is that PSW's (CNA) will be taking on more of the RPN (LPN) role (with training) and RPN's will be taking on more of an RN role. So then there would be more RPN on the floor. The discussion we had about this (and I may be a little off base because it was a while ago) is that the hospitals can pay an RPN less but have them do almost the same as an RN.
I'm just curious about what PSW and RPN stand for. Thanks
No problem!! PSW - personal support worker - exact same duties as a CNA from what I get from the posts I've been part of. RPN - instead of Licensed Practical Nurse it's Registered Practical Nurse.
No problem!! PSW - personal support worker - exact same duties as a CNA from what I get from the posts I've been part of. RPN - instead of Licensed Practical Nurse it's Registered Practical Nurse.
In South Eastern PA, many hospitals have stopped hiring LPN's. This started about 5 years ago. As the LPN's were being fazed out, some hospital chains paid for their LPN's to become RN's. This does not mean LPN's are no longer being hired in hospitals, it's just not as popular in certain areas. It's decrease in popularity is a known fact in my area. Many LPN's are going back to school because of it. Many are restricted to LTC's. I have learned that many places in the North East Regions have started what is called Medication Tech/Aide courses.
I am not sure of the exact role, but the Certified Medication Technician passes out medication and does general nursing duties such as patient care & some dressing changes. My Cousin has been one for over 3 years. She currently makes $18 an hour.....a few bucks less than the LPN's at her job. They are becoming increasingly popular especially in Assisted Living & Mental Health facilities. This combined with decreased hospital jobs could spell trouble for some LPN's in the future. The Med Techs do become licensed and state certified as they are trained. They DO NOT replace the nurses, they work under the Nurse's supervision but they do pick up many nursing duties. It is all about big businesses trying to save a buck.
I have read several articles that mentioned the CNA's of the future will have more responsibility, this would also mean more training. This does not mean an unexperienced CNA who just finished an 8 week CNA course is suddenly given a med cart and an I.V/Catheter kit. It means they would need to be trained & certified to do more nursing duties.
Oh right, business establishments are quick to throw money at people. They never try to get away with squeezing more work out of people for the same pay.
If you really want to do LPN work for CNA pay then keep hoping, but it's not going to happen. Like miiszkim said, LPNs are not really being phased out like people say they are. And trust me, as long as you're a CNA and not an LPN, it doesn't matter what your job duties are, they're not giving you a raise.
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Oh right, business establishments are quick to throw money at people. They never try to get away with squeezing more work out of people for the same pay.