There's "no evidence" coronavirus survivors can't be reinfected, WHO says

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

There's "no evidence" coronavirus survivors can't be reinfected, WHO says

by Sophie Lewis

April 25, 2020 / 12:52 PM / CBS News

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The World Health Organization (WHO) said there is "no evidence" that survivors of COVID-19 cannot be reinfected with the virus. In a statement Saturday morning, WHO warned that antibodies may not adequately protect survivors, leaving them vulnerable to a second coronavirus infection.

The warning came as several countries, including the United States, are considering allowing people who have recovered to carry "immunity passports" or "risk-free certificates." That documentation would allow survivors to return to work and other activities under the assumption that they are immune from the virus. ...

April 24, 2000

WHO: "Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19

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WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response.1 Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection....

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19

[toomuchbaloney]

This is troubling news.

I am going to go for a walk and check my tapped trees to calm my mind...

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

I don't think most Americans care anymore. It's time to move on from this toxic relationship with Coronavirus-related news 24/7. People weren't worried constantly about getting the flu or SARS. It's time to make peace with the existence of Coronavirus. The "second wave" thing is inevitable because the premise behind preventing a new outbreak would be quarantining everyone until every single person on earth is Corona-free, as just that sole Coronapositive person could bring it right back. Life has to be restored back to normal at this point. If America and the world could keep running through the 80s and half the 90s with the HIV/AIDS pandemic, we can surely keep our normal lives while also invested in stopping Corona.

[HandsOffMySteth]

It was suggested that this could be a yearly event similar to seasonal flu. New information from actual cases shows that the death rate is somewhere near the flu, but this data has not been put to a study yet. The reason is that new serological testing indicates that many more have had it but were asymptomatic. Once antibodies for the particular antigen are established does not mean that the virus protein spikes cannot change as per the flu. Even though The Who has stated there may be no long term immunity I would take it as a warning because There are no studies to show that the antibodies do not protect long term to my knowledge. We need to get more data to make a sound judgement on this.

[toomuchbaloney]

7 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

I don't think most Americans care anymore. It's time to move on from this toxic relationship with Coronavirus-related news 24/7. People weren't worried constantly about getting the flu or SARS. It's time to make peace with the existence of Coronavirus. The "second wave" thing is inevitable because the premise behind preventing a new outbreak would be quarantining everyone until every single person on earth is Corona-free, as just that sole Coronapositive person could bring it right back. Life has to be restored back to normal at this point. If America and the world could keep running through the 80s and half the 90s with the HIV/AIDS pandemic, we can surely keep our normal lives while also invested in stopping Corona.

Polling suggests that the vast majority of Americans agree with the actions to slow the spread.

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Majorities in both parties say that a range of restrictions have been necessary to confront the outbreak. For instance, 94% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents and 85% of Republicans and Republican leaners say it has been necessary to close K-12 schools, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted March 19-24.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/02/5-facts-about-partisan-reactions-to-covid-19-in-the-u-s/

I think that this COVID19 has distinguished itself well beyond comparison to HIV/AIDS. It really is unlike any modern American epidemic since the 19th century.

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

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according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted March 19-24.

Yeah that is way outdated.

[toomuchbaloney]

3 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

Yeah that is way outdated.

You are welcome to provide a more recent citation. Things indeed ARE moving quickly.

Did you have any quibble with the poll results or with Pew as a source of polling?

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

I have a quibble with you posting outdated data that doesn't encapsulate Americans' feelings suffering from an extra month of house arrest.

[toomuchbaloney]

17 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

I have a quibble with you posting outdated data that doesn't encapsulate Americans' feelings suffering from an extra month of house arrest.

Your opinion is duly noted. But, do you have data to share with me for discussion?

From that month old poll..."Similar shares of Republicans and Democrats say someone in their household has either lost a job or taken a pay cut. At this stage of the outbreak, 36% of Democrats say that they or someone in their household has either lost a job or taken a pay cut because of the coronavirus outbreak. Slightly fewer Republicans (30%) say one or both of these negative job outcomes has happened to them or someone in their household."

I wonder how much that has changed in the past 4 weeks...that seems so long ago in many respects, doesn't it?

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

The burden of proof falls on the claimant. I don't have to refute your faulty data with my own data.

[toomuchbaloney]

7 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

The burden of proof falls on the claimant. I don't have to refute your faulty data with my own data.

But I provided credible data that hasn't been found faulty and no conflicting data has been presented. Your opinion is noted, however.

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

You citing outdated data calls your own credibility into question.