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THERE IS NO NURSING SHORTAGE in 2010.

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by mmm333 mmm333 (Member)

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Monster.com NursingLink articles often seem like they were written by students in healthcare administration or MBA programs. This Silicon-Valley-based website combines cliche'd management and business jargon with very topical treatment of nursing issues, many of which seem to be 10 years behind the latest developments.

At a time when there is already a glut of nursing students and nurses due to returners and those holding off retirement, and when jobs are hard to come by, Monster.com is STILL encouraging people to enter this "hot" career field in droves.

THERE IS NO NURSING SHORTAGE in 2010. THERE IS A GLUT OF NURSES , particularly New Grads. There will always be room for new grads, but not for droves upon droves of new grads as there have been in the last 2-3 years. Many of those grads have moved on to other career fields such as PA, PT, or law school. Others have taken refuge in CNA or other healthcare positions and continued job hunting.

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Just a desire to promote open discussion. Hope you don't take it personally. I take no issue with anything said by posters here- I do want to discuss the stuff posted on monster in relation to the real challenges facing nurses, because it often seems that there is a mismatch between the two.

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walk6miles works as a RN critical care areas.

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I don't wish to start an argument; however, there are a variety (and quantity) of jobs in central Florida. Lower your expectations as far as payroll is concerned but benefits are reasonable. You willl need to read the Orlando Sentinal and/or News Journal (Daytona Beach).Good luck.

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RNforLongTime works as a Registered Nurse.

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Come to my facility! We are desperate for OB and ICU RN's!!

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ChristineN works as a RN.

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I wonder how dated the articles on Monster was? Do you know if it was from 2010 or not?

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Esme12 is a ASN, BSN, RN and works as a Emergency / Trauma Nurse.

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Over all.....there is a shortage and a projected shortage when us baby boomers retire.....that is if we can retire.......although, admittedly less of a shortage than a couple of years ago. There are parts of the country that contimue to need nurses and are hiring......but there are more areas of the country that are not hiring and nurses cannot find jobs. There is a plethora of new grads and they cannot find jobs. There are several threads on this very site that shares the same experience.

After 31 years of nursing, I have been unable to find a job. I have applied to everyjob I can think of including one's I am probably not qualified to do just to get in the door (they didn't call anyhow). I have several theories about this but the bottom line remains.............people cannot find jobs. Hospitals are not hiring new grads because it is expensive to orient them plus paying for double staff (preceptors+grad). They are also not hiring experienced nurses because we are at the top of the pay scale which makes us expensive too and .......... experienced nurses are not as malleable as less experienced staff. (true story)

There are more new grads than positions. In times of rough economic terrain....people look for the maximum reward in the shortest amount of time.......something recession proof.........There's alway's a need for nurses right?They make good money plus it only takes two years! This happened in the early nineties when all the .com things dumped people went to nursing school and there was a plethora of nurses. Stay at home MOM's return to the workplace because their husbands get laid off. Others got to school because they can't get a job in their profession and nursing is a quick reward.......2 yrs. Today, many nurses about to retire cannot because we lost big on our 401k's and need to go back to work.

Many people cannot do traveling or re-locate due to family constraints and the housing market stinks so you cannot sell your house. Some are stuck like many others, they owe oore on their houses than what they are worth (like the late 80's). The good thing is.....this too shall pass. The reality is there will still be a nursing shortage because when the market reopens......there will be many who left nursing and went to PA school or other medical fields leaving us right back where it all began.

As so it will begin again..................:twocents::twocents:

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Most people just don't seem to realize that this recession affects everything. All hospitals in my area are on a hiring freeze or are laying off people. It doesn't matter if you are a new grad, or as the other person said, 30+ years of experience. Hell, you could probably have the cure for cancer and not get hired right now. It's not personal.

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Hi Christine, There have been a series of these articles since late 2008 I believe, and there was a recent one a few days ago (Sept 2010)... monster's site seems to broadcast similar information to meg whitman's website...

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BWAHAHAHAHA. Perhaps Monster should look at its own crappy listings for nurses and tell me if there's a shortage or not.

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Haha, seriously- one must wonder if there is a Silicon Valley connection between ebay's Meg Whitman and Monster.com down the street. Their site and hers are almost identical in scope and accuracy.

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Lucky0220 has 4 years experience and works as a RN.

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Over all.....there is a shortage and a projected shortage when us baby boomers retire.....that is if we can retire.......although, admittedly less of a shortage than a couple of years ago. There are parts of the country that contimue to need nurses and are hiring......but there are more areas of the country that are not hiring and nurses cannot find jobs. There is a plethora of new grads and they cannot find jobs. There are several threads on this very site that shares the same experience.

After 31 years of nursing, I have been unable to find a job. I have applied to everyjob I can think of including one's I am probably not qualified to do just to get in the door (they didn't call anyhow). I have several theories about this but the bottom line remains.............people cannot find jobs. Hospitals are not hiring new grads because it is expensive to orient them plus paying for double staff (preceptors+grad). They are also not hiring experienced nurses because we are at the top of the pay scale which makes us expensive too and .......... experienced nurses are not as malleable as less experienced staff. (true story)

There are more new grads than positions. In times of rough economic terrain....people look for the maximum reward in the shortest amount of time.......something recession proof.........There's alway's a need for nurses right?They make good money plus it only takes two years! This happened in the early nineties when all the .com things dumped people went to nursing school and there was a plethora of nurses. Stay at home MOM's return to the workplace because their husbands get laid off. Others got to school because they can't get a job in their profession and nursing is a quick reward.......2 yrs. Today, many nurses about to retire cannot because we lost big on our 401k's and need to go back to work.

Many people cannot do traveling or re-locate due to family constraints and the housing market stinks so you cannot sell your house. Some are stuck like many others, they owe oore on their houses than what they are worth (like the late 80's). The good thing is.....this too shall pass. The reality is there will still be a nursing shortage because when the market reopens......there will be many who left nursing and went to PA school or other medical fields leaving us right back where it all began.

As so it will begin again..................:twocents::twocents:

I am curious as to why you are having trouble finding a job. You seem to have the credentials that any facility would be begging for! :confused:

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Ageism exists in nursing.

There is prejudice against older nurses by some, including other nurses. Some think that older nurses can't or don't critically think, etc. I have heard educators make disparaging remarks about long time nurses during orientation and during in services, etc.

Some employers may not want to hire older workers because they think use of health care and work comp claims may go up, increasing the employer's costs.

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