At first I wasn't going to write this post since I believe that a film that appears to be (at least in part) based on thoroughly discredited, fear-mongering nonsense should get as little attention as possible.
Then after browsing several anti-vaccine and conspiracist websites I found as I suspected, that this has already exploded and whatever I write here won't make matters any worse.
The film 'Vaxxed' is directed by Mr Andrew Wakefield, a former physician who lost his medical license after research that he had authored, was found fraudulent (containing as I understand it, both methodological and ethical flaws).
Just watching the trailer for this film elevated my BP into dangerous territory. How is it that this man keeps promoting the same debunked data to this day? Hasn't it caused enough harm already?
It seems that anti-vaccine proponents span the entire spectrum from sadly misinformed to clearly unhinged. However, no matter what their individual motivation happens to be, they are in my opinion dangerous. We have fought a hard battle against diseases that today are vaccine-preventable. Millions of children have died in the past and some still do, to this day. We don't see much of it in first-world countries due to the success of vaccines. Anti-vaccine proponents seem to believe that the "olden days" were better. I think it's deeply worrisome.
In my escapades around the internet, I've found all sorts of scary blogs, clips and opinions relating to childhood vaccines.
This YouTube clip rather amusingly (in a sad way) has 90 likes and zero (!) dislikes (probably because no rational person would even click on it in the first place). (I'm not sure what this says about me)
Anyway this women thinks that nagalese (an enzyme) is added on purpose to vaccines in order to induce autism, cancer and type 2 diabetes in vaccine recipients. And the doctors who discovered this were subsequently murdered to cover this up. This vaccine tampering seems to be a part of some nefarious population control plot.
(It seems that alpha-N-acetylgalactoseaminidase (referred to as nagalese in the YouTube clip) can deglycosylate vitamin D binding protein (DBP) and DBP plays a role in the immune cascade response. So it seems that alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase can interfere with the immune response. While some cancer cells can release alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase, I've found no proof that injecting them into humans induces cancers, never mind autism and DMII. I will however admit that I didn't spend an inordinate amount of time researching her theory).
I admit that this last video is a bit extreme. But this woman and other "anti-vaxxers" have one thing on common. They are willing to accept something as true, even when there is no supporting evidence available.
Serious questions:
* Why are some people so vulnerable/susceptible to flawed logic and poor research?
* What can we as nurses/healthcare professionals do to ensure that our patients base their decisions on sound evidence-based facts or at least have the opportunity to do so? Or should we just reconcile ourselves with the fact that a portion of the population will base their decisions on questionable or outright false information, misconceptions and fear?
While it is true that correlation doesn't always mean causation, and I agree with those who already said this... sometimes correlation DOES equal causation.
There are many and varied causes of autism, not just adverse vaccine (medication) side effects.
I recommend looking at some websites that might get folks thinking outside of the "herd mentality" box. I too was in that box, before my own GP (General Practitioner) doctor, many years ago, warned me against taking a tetorifice shot. He was light years ahead of too many medical people.
Some doctors quietly refuse to get their own children vaccinated, while they get their patients vaccinated... but they are going under the radar, in avoiding vaccinating their own children-- to avoid being called "kooks" by the conservative AMA (American Medical Association), who might "censure" them, for going against the "the Emporer is wearing clothes" (when he's really naked) company line.
It should get very interesting, when we all can see the "VAXXED" film!
While it is true that correlation doesn't always mean causation, and I agree with those who already said this... sometimes correlation DOES equal causation.
There are many and varied causes of autism, not just adverse vaccine (medication) side effects.
No reputable source would say that vaccine side effect is on of the "varied causes" of autism. It has thoroughly be debunked scientifically.
I recommend looking at some websites that might get folks thinking outside of the "herd mentality" box.
Some blog websites where a non-qualified person can tell you what to think? Wait a tic (too soon?), doesn't that mean that actually you are part of the "herd mentality"?
How about some independent studies? None of your links are studies.
Some doctors quietly refuse to get their own children vaccinated, while they get their patients vaccinated... but they are going under the radar, in avoiding vaccinating their own children-- to avoid being called "kooks" by the conservative AMA (American Medical Association), who might "censure" them, for going against the "the Emporer is wearing clothes" (when he's really naked) company line.
Perhaps a very small minority does. Very. Small. Fraction. Minority.
Perhaps there SHOULD be multiple studies, to determine COD (Cause Of Death), regarding human vs. auto. At least I can admit that there MAY be times that the heart attack occurred at the same time the car hit someone. Can YOU admit that, without needing years of "studies"?
As far as your advice of: "Get over the vaccinations/autism thing. It's over. You just sound silly.", your attempt at "ridicule", to take the place of "critical thinking" about something that you may not have thought enough about, is understandable, so I won't hold that against you.
If studies DO get done, perhaps you, in the future, might "have to revise" your "views on that" (vaccine reaction as one of many causes of AUTISM).
I recommend looking at some websites that might get folks thinking outside of the "herd mentality" box. I too was in that box, before my own GP (General Practitioner) doctor, many years ago, warned me against taking a tetorifice shot. He was light years ahead of too many medical people.
You mean like the crackpot websites full of dangerous disinformation, like the ones you linked below? No thanks. And your GP warned you not to have a tetorifice shot? Oh, yeah, you're much better off just taking your chances with tentorifice. What could go wrong???
Perhaps there SHOULD be multiple studies, to determine COD (Cause Of Death), regarding human vs. auto. At least I can admit that there MAY be times that the heart attack occurred at the same time the car hit someone. Can YOU admit that, without needing years of "studies"?
You don't need years of studies. I think you can probably admit that of all the heart attacks that occur over 5 years only a very small number would be times where a heart attack occurred at the same exact second as a car stuck them (or lightning, or a disgruntled clown with an axe, etc). When you take those 1-2 outliers and examine them in he context of the 3.7million total fatal heart attacks, the outliers are fully insignificant.
If studies DO get done, perhaps you, in the future, might "have to revise" your "views on that" (vaccine reaction as one of many causes of AUTISM).
So, SafeMinds, a leading non-profit autisim research group I amm sure you are familiar with, spend $250,000 to fund a large un-baised study of vaccines and autisim. Guess what?
If studies DO get done, perhaps you, in the future, might "have to revise" your "views on that" (vaccine reaction as one of many causes of AUTISM).
I make you a promise, here and now, that if anyone ever produces any legitimate research that supports the idea that there is a link between vaccinations and autism, I will be happy to consider it and consider revising my views. Until then, the tinfoil hat is all yours.
Thank you, Farawyn, for asking! Here's what I was talking about:
Too many times, it IS the vaccination that causes autism, but too many medical people are in "denial", because they just ASSUME that vaccines couldn't possibly be that harmful---so they find all kinds of other so-called causes of autism (some other causes ARE the cause), or, they say--there's no cause at all, so just accept your child as being different, and gifted in other ways.
Sometimes heavy metal detoxification (either with EDTA or, with "Modified Citrus Pectin", orally), can improve someone's case of autism, if the heavy metal mercury, for example, was a contributing factor.
So, the car hitting human analogy can work either way:
1) Yes, cars kill people, and most of such people DIDN'T have a simutaneous heart attack. The analogy here, is that cars are NON-vaccine causes of autism, and that the heart attack symbolizes a vaccine cause of autism.
or:
2) In SOME cases, the person DID have a heart attack, but everyone figured that it was ONLY the car, that was the cause of death. The analogy in this case, is that everyone ASSUMES that nothing else was happening at the same time as the car/human interaction. In this case the "heart attack", etc., (analogy--heart attack equals vaccine reaction) WAS the actual cause of death, but it was hidden, by other events (car hitting person).
Thank you, Farawyn, for asking! Here's what I was talking about:
Too many times, it IS the vaccination that causes autism, but too many medical people are in "denial", so they find all kinds of other so-called causes of autism (some other causes ARE the cause), or, they say--there's no cause at all, so just accept your child as being different, and gifted in other ways.
Sometimes heavy metal detoxification (either with EDTA or, with "Modified Citrus Pectin", orally), can improve someone's case of autism, if the heavy metal mercury, for example, was a contributing factor.
So, the car hitting human analogy can work either way:
Yes, cars kill people, and the people DIDN'T have a simutaneous heart attack. The analogy here, is that cars are vaccines.
You mean like the crackpot websites full of dangerous disinformation, like the ones you linked below? No thanks. And your GP warned you not to have a tetorifice shot? Oh, yeah, you're much better off just taking your chances with tentorifice. What could go wrong???
Taking a chance with tetorifice??? Oh dear God.....that's not a death I would wish on anyone.
You don't need years of studies. I think you can probably admit that of all the heart attacks that occur over 5 years only a very small number would be times where a heart attack occurred at the same exact second as a car stuck them (or lightning, or a disgruntled clown with an axe, etc). When you take those 1-2 outliers and examine them in he context of the 3.7million total fatal heart attacks, the outliers are fully insignificant.
So, SafeMinds, a leading non-profit autisim research group I amm sure you are familiar with, spend $250,000 to fund a large un-baised study of vaccines and autisim. Guess what?
Thank you, Farawyn, for asking! Here's what I was talking about:
Too many times, it IS the vaccination that causes autism, but too many medical people are in "denial", so they find all kinds of other so-called causes of autism (some other causes ARE the cause), or, they say--there's no cause at all, so just accept your child as being different, and gifted in other ways.
Sometimes heavy metal detoxification (either with EDTA or, with "Modified Citrus Pectin", orally), can improve someone's case of autism, if the heavy metal mercury, for example, was a contributing factor.
So, the car hitting human analogy can work either way:
Yes, cars kill people, and the people DIDN'T have a simutaneous heart attack. The analogy here, is that cars are vaccines.
Or, in SOME
you talk about diseases as though it's better to get the disease than the vaccination against the disease. That's nonsense. You talk about autism as though the risk of that is far worse than anything the diseases the vaccines are for could possibly do, and that's nonsense.
Why do you keep speaking nonsense as though it was something reasonably prudent people should accept? It isn't. It's still nonsense. Repeating worn out myths doesn't make them become fact. It makes the speaker of old, worn out myths seem a little foolish for doing so.
Too many times, it IS the vaccination that causes autism, but too many medical people are in "denial", so they find all kinds of other so-called causes of autism (some other causes ARE the cause), or, they say--there's no cause at all, so just accept your child as being different, and gifted in other ways.
No it is not. Just like autism doesn't happen overnight.
Sometimes heavy metal detoxification (either with EDTA or, with "Modified Citrus Pectin", orally), can improve someone's case of autism, if the heavy metal mercury, for example, was a contributing factor.
This is dangerous medical advice and against the TOS.
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to cover this up. This vaccine tampering seems to be a part of some nefarious population control plot.
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While it is true that correlation doesn't always mean causation, and I agree with those who already said this... sometimes correlation DOES equal causation.
There are many and varied causes of autism, not just adverse vaccine (medication) side effects.
I recommend looking at some websites that might get folks thinking outside of the "herd mentality" box. I too was in that box, before my own GP (General Practitioner) doctor, many years ago, warned me against taking a tetorifice shot. He was light years ahead of too many medical people.
Some doctors quietly refuse to get their own children vaccinated, while they get their patients vaccinated... but they are going under the radar, in avoiding vaccinating their own children-- to avoid being called "kooks" by the conservative AMA (American Medical Association), who might "censure" them, for going against the "the Emporer is wearing clothes" (when he's really naked) company line.
It should get very interesting, when we all can see the "VAXXED" film!
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