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I have been a Nurse's Assistant for about 8 months. I am currently studying to be an RN. I am 23 year old female
In the beginning, the occupation as a Cena appeared to be a wonderful job to me and being that there are SO many opportunities to move up inside of the health care field itself, getting trained and finding a position in a hospital or Nursing home was a smart idea. RNs are in large demand right now.
I have worked at 2 nursing homes so far, and from my experience working as a CNA is one of the most risky jobs you can ever have. While I think the job itself can be relatively easy--especially if you work the midnight shift-- and it can be very challenging--the hectic day shift--it is a wonderful and rewarding job and I enjoy it when you are amongst ppl who are FAIR.
Unfortunately, from my recent experiences I think being a CNA is not a reliable job, and often you work at the mercy to some of the most wicked, scheming, prejudice, discrimanatory ppl in the industry. In this field it is VERY easy to get lied on, and get fired, there is absolutely nothing to protect us from the malicious ways that go on. We are pretty much disposable. It is very hard to keep a job in this field
I am working at a Nursing home with a LPN, who has an infamous reputation for firing Nurse's Assistants like its a sport. She is very manipulative--she has poured water in residents diapers in efforts to besmirch an employees reputation so they can get terminated. She will pick a target, and harass this person until they get fired or they quit.
I am her "target" I have been working there for almost 3 months. I have not yet reached my 90 days, and it's obvious she does not want me to. She has turned up the heat on her treacherous ways because I am getting close to my last days of probation.
Lately, this wicked LPN has been watching me--another employee confirmed this--I feel her eyes on me when I am working. Everytime I pass by I feel her eyes follow wherever I go. I am a very hardworker, I come to work everyday on time, never called off. I am somewhat of a fast worker--I simply cannot help this though once i get going it's like an andrenaline rush.
Since I work the midnight shift anywhere from 3-5 residents have to be up and in the dining room from 5-7am in the morning. I have found a routine that works for me to where I get most of them dressed and ready in the 5 hr bracket. Depending on the residents that I have for that night I get some dressed a bit early because they are my hardest patients. If you start them later then you will end up staying over your shift which will result in write ups. Many employees practice this as well.
The wicket LPN never had a problem with this until the past few weeks. She has noticed that I always have my residents up and dressed promptly and on time in the morning. I am about my business. She has confronted me about this and told me that I get them dressed too early and I explained to her why I have to with certain residents. She wants to make a Cenas job miserable and difficult by being against this.
Last night, the wicked LPN instigated a conflict. While, I was doing my rounds, she pops into the room and tells me that another resident needs to go to the bathroom while I am in the midst of changing someone's brief. (Lately, she has been making a habit of interrupting me in the middle of one thing, to tell me to do something else that really doesn't need to be done in any kind of urgency. This is her scheme to try to throw me off and cause work conflict. She wants me to fall behind) The resident that she "claimed" needed to go to the bathroom is continent and usually pulls her call light when she has to go...I am at this woman's mercy so after I finished changing the resident's brief I do what she says and go to the residents room to take her to the bathroom--only to find that this woman is in a deep sleep and is snoring--obviously she has been sleep for hours and does not need to go go the bathroom. She is continent and in her right mind--she let's you know when she has to go. Still, I tap the woman on the shoulder and wake her up, I ask her if she has to go. She replies that she doesn't. I make sure by asking her several times, she assures me that she doesn't have to pee. I try to encourage her to get up, but she refuses. The residents do have rights. Therefore, I tell her I will come back later and try again just in case.
I leave and assist another resident..the wicked LPN comes in after me as I am changing a brief..and asked me if I took the other resident to the bathroom..when I tried to explain to her what happened when I went in there--she cuts me off, and presumes that I "refused to take orders" and will write me up. I remained calm as I tried to defend myself then later realized its best to stay quiet. The wicked LPN was purposely being very quarrelsome and unprofessional. She left the room and said she will write me up.
Moments later she drags another Nurse from a different station brings her into the residents room while I am still working, points her fingers and says, "you see this GIRL, she will not do what i say. I told her to take a resident to the bathroom but she did not do it." She went on and I felt humilated and embarassed, felt like I was being bullied. The other Nurse had nothing to do with what was going on, and what she did was childish.
When the two left the room, I could hear the wicked LPN loudly saying in a nasty and harsh tone, "that girl i told her to take that resident to the room but she didn't want to do it..." and some other things. I felt belittled that a person in her position would stoop so low.
Now, I get a call today that I was taken off the schedule to work, and that I have to attend a meeting with the administrator and Charge Nurse Monday. I honestly feel like I do not stand a chance to keep my job and will be fired. I really liked my job but it was the wicked LPN who made things worse. This type of stuff has happened to me in the past where you get Nurse's who like to habitually LIE on Cenas because they think low of us.
I don't know what to do
first and foremost:it is cna, cna, cna, cna. certified nursing assistant
secondly, nurses cannot fire anyone.
they can grieve their concerns, and bring it up the chain of command, but they cannot fire.
third, if a nurse is trying to sabotage your job, it is up to you in trying to protect it.
this includes saving a water-soaked diaper to the charge nurse:
or reporting this nurse to the charge, about how you awoke the pt to see if she had to go to the bathroom.
you need to be proactive in standing up for yourself.
and finally, please do not get into the habit of stereotyping.
not all nurses are malicious.
people are people-regardless of their profession.
best of everything.
leslie
actually, many states use the term cena rather than cna:
program description for cena / cna training
view basket providergratiot technical education center (gtec) date of last update11/11/2007descriptiona class which prepares students to become a competency evaluated nursing assistant (cena) is being offered to assist students in health care career exploration and mastery of basic patient care skills. the course provides students with a combination of classroom and laboratory instruction, as well as clinical experience at long term care facilities. students will learn the skills needed to qualify for state certification as a competency evaluated nursing assistant (cena). gratiot technical education center (gtec) partners with mt. pleasant area technical center to provide this training program.
Since nurses depend on CNAs and techs to help them and lighten their load, why would a nurse want to get a CNA (that was doing her job) fired? And you state that this nurse has done that repeatedly. Doesn't that just make more work for the nurse?
They just hire more CNAs to replace the ones they lost. I had often heard how we are "a dime a dozen". And since I was told not to come into work tonight, they have another CNA who has replaced me. They know how to work the system.
Also when a new head administrator takes over, he/she will literally go down the line and fire regulars or new ppl they did not hire and then bring employees that worked with them at their previous employer to replace them and/or just recruit new employees from the application file. Its a gradual process. This happened to me on my last job as a CNA.
IMay I suggest that you concentrate on your studies to become an RN? I have stated over and over again that CNA is not a stepping stone to RN, it is not necessary to become a CNA to enhance your nursing practice and the value it adds to your education is negligible. The experience you gained changing diapers and doing vital signs will come with time. Furthermore the physical and emotional stressors of the job can distract you from trying to achieve your real goal. Everywhere you work as an aide will not be like this job and all nurses are not like this LPN. However, I have personally experienced the type of treatment you are describing and I have personally witnessed it enough that your story rings true to me. Let this one go.
Thank you so much for your support.
I became a CNA because the pay was pretty good for someone like me (I have no children). And helping ppl do things that we able bodied ppl take for granted seemed like a great job. I mean, what is so hard about making beds? or helping ppl eat their breakfast or lunch?? This comes natural to me. I love my job when I do not work with that LPN, unfortunately I have not had many opportunities to work without her presence. She makes me really despise my job and I dread to go to work when she is there. I feel like I am serving a sentence in a concentration camp.
As a Nurse, do you have any insight as to why this kind of malicious behavior takes place?? Why do they treat CNAs like this? Is it because they think we are uneducated and dumb?
Lastly, I will not let this one go. I have been bullied too much and I am fed up with this. They are playing with ppl's live when they write them up for unfair reasons, and then kick them out the door many of the workers have children & are trying to make ends meet. I am a good worker, with flawless attendance and arrives on time to work..and I can't even use this place as a reference or get a recommendation.
I believe you too Ms. NA.
People find it so very hard to believe stories like yours but I have experienced this type of treatment and have seen it with my own two eyes. All nurse's do not act the way that LPN does but some do. When I was a CNA I had a few experiences where I was treated worse than dirt by a few nurse's. One day I went to work like I normally did and I was verbally abused and harassed all day by a nurse. It was so bad that I went into the bathroom and cried and decided right then and there that I was never coming back.
I didn't have a another job lined up or anything but I knew I couldn't take it anymore or I would go crazy. I said to myself that I would be better off working at McDonald's. I made it to the end of my shift and I never worked another day as a CNA again. I was so turned off by my experience that I changed my major in college and did not think of doing nursing for years.
I am glad that I went back to school for nursing and I am happy to report that being a nurse is nothing like being a CNA. I hope you don't lose your job because of that woman but if you do then don't be discouraged from becoming a nurse or even remaining a CNA while you are in school if that is what you need to do to earn a living.
It's possible this LPN is picking on you because you're in RN school (and could be her boss one day. For this same reason, her behavior is pretty stupid).
When I was in nursing school, I worked as a nursing home CNA for 6 months. There was an older LPN who just hated me (I called her nurse Towanda Ratched - her name was actually similar). Once, she accused me of seating an Alzheimer's pt who wanted to go to the BR on the trash can (need I add that the pt managed to do that herself? Nurse Ratched just happened to come in before I could get the pt off the trash can and on the toilet). My nemesis never succeeded in running me off, though.
What did I do? The battleaxe worked day shift, so I transferred to 3-11. Never had to deal with her again!
Can you change your shift, if not your work days? You cannot change your Nurse Ratched, but you could try that. And by all means, tell admin the truth regarding what has happened (defend yourself).
I wish you the very best,
DeLana
The staff that you work with will make or break you! When I was working at a LTC facility, I, too, worked with one of these 'wicked' nurses. While she was the same rank as I at the time, LPN, it was still uncomfortable giving report to her as she was always trying to find something wrong with what I did. I worked 3-11 and she worked 11-7 and we both always worked on the same hall. When she couldn't get to me, she'd go after the CNAs. There were many that either threatened to quit if they didn't change their hall or they simply did quit. Its sad that people (not just nurses) treat others that way. Even if you did do something wrong, the way she responded to it (if what you write is true) is no way to handle it. Sounds to me like she may be on a power trip! You need to type/write up formally all events (major ones, don't nit-pick) and take them with you to the meeting. Only state the facts, no opinions. Ask other co-workers (not only CNAs if possible) if they'd be willing to go to bat for you if she brings up some vaild complaints. You say the resident at issue is oriented? If its not been too long, ask your supervisor to go and ask that resident if what you say is true or not. Ask if you can switch swifts, switch halls, etc. A lot of times it seems people on a power trip are even worse when they work shifts when there are little or no other supervisors present. Best of luck to you, let us know how it works out!
I don't think that it's because the OP is in RN school. I think people like that "wicked LPN" can be found in almost any work environment. The difference is that most other work environments are concerned about lawsuits and have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to harassment and horizontal violence.
I experienced hazing as a new employee in a corporate job and all I had to do was go to HR with a few of the emails I had saved and the problem was immediately solved.
It's possible this LPN is picking on you because you're in RN school (and could be her boss one day. For this same reason, her behavior is pretty stupid).When I was in nursing school, I worked as a nursing home CNA for 6 months. There was an older LPN who just hated me (I called her nurse Towanda Ratched - her name was actually similar). Once, she accused me of seating an Alzheimer's pt who wanted to go to the BR on the trash can (need I add that the pt managed to do that herself? Nurse Ratched just happened to come in before I could get the pt off the trash can and on the toilet). My nemesis never succeeded in running me off, though.
What did I do? The battleaxe worked day shift, so I transferred to 3-11. Never had to deal with her again!
Can you change your shift, if not your work days? You cannot change your Nurse Ratched, but you could try that. And by all means, tell admin the truth regarding what has happened (defend yourself).
I wish you the very best,
DeLana
I think you should get the lucid resident to testify on your behalf.
Mainly, just try to get away from her. As others have suggested, switch hours, days, shifts, assignments, whatever you have to do to get away from this woman.
Why do people behave as she does? Well, maybe, not saying it is so, but maybe you actually have done something wrong. Is that possible? But I think probably the trouble is that she is very unhappy in her personal life and takes it out on those she supervises at work. Perhaps she envies your youth, your speed, your strength, your health, your good relationships with the residents. She could just be a sociopath and a bully but I think she has maybe been hurt badly in the past and this is the result. Maybe it's based on fear. Maybe she has horrible trouble at home, maybe she fears getting old and dependent, who knows? Maybe she's angry at having to work 84 hours in a week to make ends meet.
You could try to befriend her but I think the relationship has deteriorated beyond this possibility, at least for now. If you still have a job there after the meeting, you might be able to try this strategy.
You could always just gently confront her. Just tell her taht you are puzzled as to why she is so angry with you, you want very much to please her because she is your boss but it seems no matter how hard you try you just can't please her and ask her how you can change in order to make her satisfied with your work. Put the burden on her, which is where it sounds like it belongs.
Apologize for any wrongdoing on your part and shape up - if there is anything you should change. Ask her and good luck.
If you have to go to a meeting go as prepared as you can, if you haven't alread, write up as near as you can instances that she has been unfair (I wouldn't go overboard about her "watching you", thats considered her job and could make you look paranoid or guilty) .Also see if you can take another professional with you, (I did and I just asked her to be there and not say anything.) I have found that sometimes they will gang up on you if there are no witnesses, especially if she's friends with the administrator, maybe another nurse that you work with that thinks you do a good job. There is a lot of back stabbing that goes on, too bad they are not there for the good of the residents. I'd focus on that also, that you are trying to do your best for the residents. I know when confronted I can't defend myself, but if you know its coming maybe writing it ahead of time might help you to defend yourself.I'm an LPN and I have been backed into a corner more than once. The last time in long term care I handed in my resignation and my last day of work they asked me if I'd reconsider, so it helps to be honest and do whats best for you.Keep in mind you could come back as an RN and be her supervisor, what goes around comes around.Good luck, I'll be praying for your situation.
A. The field of nursing is hard to many CNAs....We talk about it often...You cross your fingers that hopefully you work on a floor or in a facility where you either get along, or are professional and can do your job for the best welfare of the patients...but there's always that nurse who treats you rough. You do your job, and that's all you can do.
B. I personally would have a HUGE problem with that, and while not blowing up, would have freely gone back out to the station after rounds and explained myself calmly with reasons, where others could hear me. If she did not want to listen, I would have explained myself to manager when they called me to get my side, and if unsupported, found another job....and quickly.
C. If she got so mad, why didn't SHE try to wake the sleeping resident up to take her to the bathroom, or wake her up to ask her if you woke her up?
D. Some people don't like ANYONE who won't play by their rules......do what you can, nurses are not god.
E. As a RN student, you now have the privledge of knowing "where you came from." NEVER forget that. If you don't pull your fair share, the cnas will know and you will find yourself without a hand when you need one the most.
F. I won't beat a dead horse over the CNA abbreviation......LOL.
GL, hon....keep us posted about what happens!!! I'm rooting for you and hopefully your DONs not a total donk!
SharonH, RN
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May I suggest that you concentrate on your studies to become an RN? I have stated over and over again that CNA is not a stepping stone to RN, it is not necessary to become a CNA to enhance your nursing practice and the value it adds to your education is negligible. The experience you gained changing diapers and doing vital signs will come with time. Furthermore the physical and emotional stressors of the job can distract you from trying to achieve your real goal. Everywhere you work as an aide will not be like this job and all nurses are not like this LPN. However, I have personally experienced the type of treatment you are describing and I have personally witnessed it enough that your story rings true to me. Let this one go.