I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
We could go back and forth trading warm fluffy definitions on liberalism and conservatism, couldn't we?
I'm good with moderates on both sides. I'm actually good with anyone as long as they're respectful. Unfortunately, as we've seen, there are some on the left who spend most of their time disbaraging and discrediting those with differing opinions.
I consider myself a moderate conservative. Most people I deal with in my life are more moderate either left or right. Sometimes when frustrated or fearful for our nation when I'm here, I remind myself I'm often dealing with a vocal extremist or two on the left who aren't representative of most of the nation.
What is this revenge you speak of? Do you have examples of who he has exacted revenge upon?
Why are you complacent and letting Biden be your candidate? I just said in another post that if Trump is as dangerous as you think, why arent you making noise to have Biden replaced by a better candidate? I actually do think this will happen. Almost anyone else woukd have a much better chance beating Trump. But if not and Trump wins, the Trump alarmists will be to blame for not acting.
If the Squad is an embarrassment to the silent moral majority, they should be held accountable to stand up to them.
Anyone who uses the NY Post and the Washington Free Beacon as sources is NOT a moderate Republican. Ronald Regan, Gerald Ford, Mitt Romney....none of them would be permitted to be a Republican today.
We could go back and forth trading warm fluffy definitions on liberalism and conservatism, couldn't we?
I'm good with moderates on both sides. I'm actually good with anyone as long as they're respectful. Unfortunately, as we've seen, there are some on the left who spend most of their time disbaraging and discrediting those with differing opinions.
I consider myself a moderate conservative. Most people I deal with in my life are more moderate either left or right. Sometimes when frustrated or fearful for our nation when I'm here, I remind myself I'm often dealing with a vocal extremist or two on the left who aren't representative of most of the nation.
What is this revenge you speak of? Do you have examples of who he has exacted revenge upon?
Why are you complacent and letting Biden be your candidate? I just said in another post that if Trump is as dangerous as you think, why arent you making noise to have Biden replaced by a better candidate? I actually do think this will happen. Almost anyone else woukd have a much better chance beating Trump. But if not and Trump wins, the Trump alarmists will be to blame for not acting.
If the Squad is an embarrassment to the silent moral majority, they should be held accountable to stand up to them.
We are waiting for them to lose their elections. You know, democracy?
Anyone who uses the NY Post and the Washington Free Beacon as sources is NOT a moderate Republican. Ronald Regan, Gerald Ford, Mitt Romney....none of them would be permitted to be a Republican today.
I've just be reminded on a recent back and forth on what is considered "intellectually lazy".
I also use CNN, NYT, WashPo, and a variety of other sources.
Do you have something else to back up your belief that I'm not a moderate conservative?
This is a funny place for you to post your thoughts if you don't want me or others to respond or ask you questions. I don't consider interacting in a forum like this "banging away" but then I don't belong to the party of victimhood.
It's so telling that when confronted with the reality that the leader of the party of family values and law and order is a rapist, that the response from his fans is to get rid of Biden. Isn't that funny? Trump is corrupt so the answer is to replace Trump's opponent. I won't ask you to explain that answer. I don't thin no its possible to make it make sense.
That was a nice pivot to someone not running for office in 2024 and the ongoing baloney that gets spread about covid. Maybe you could explain the significance of mentioning yet another American inspired to take a medication which doesn't improve long covid outcomes. Oh well. Trump helped inspire a cottage industry of covid conmen, grifters and charlatans, there's money to be made by confused, scared and sick people in the USA. Tens of thousands are struggling with long covid and looking for answers.
Let's explore the crazy idea that Fauci needed to be fired because he wouldn't just rubber stamp Trump's covid craziness. That kind of cultish thinking is always a bit surprising to see come from a nurse. It's weird that some nurses have been convinced that Fauci lied or something and should have been fired but they simultaneously ignore that Trump was the biggest source of covid misinformation in 2020 and they want to re-elect him. The contradictions can't be easy to reconcile. If I ask you to try to explain your thinking is that the same as "banging away at you" or is it "firing at you"?
Crazy world indeed.
Not from the party of "victimhood"?. LOL. More like the party of creating victims. Telling black people they are too incompetent to get voter Id and or cannot possible make it in to post secondary education without affirmative action? Or that if they don't vote for Biden they sint black?
The party that cries victimhood of every marginalized group for virtue points but could care less that young black men are being killed in large numbers. Connie these gun crimes don't matter?
The party of creating victims and ignoring actual victims. I think this is more accurate.
I've just be reminded on a recent back and forth on what is considered "intellectually lazy".
I also use CNN, NYT, WashPo, and a variety of other sources.
Do you have something else to back up your belief that I'm not a moderate conservative?
You are a Trumper. Moderate Republicans are not. There is nothing moderate about voting for this dangerous wacko. He's way more dangerous than The Squad. I would not feel safe with him. God knows what he would have done if he were president on 9/11. He makes G Bush look like the world's smartest man.
Not from the party of "victimhood"?. LOL. More like the party of creating victims. Telling black people they are too incompetent to get voter Id and or cannot possible make it in to post secondary education without affirmative action? Or that if they don't vote for Biden they sint black?
The party that cries victimhood of every marginalized group for virtue points but could care less that young black men are being killed in large numbers. Connie these gun crimes don't matter?
The party of creating victims and ignoring actual victims. I think this is more accurate.
You are a Trumper. Moderate Republicans are not. There is nothing moderate about voting for this dangerous wacko. He's way more dangerous than The Squad. I would not feel safe with him. God knows what he would have done if he were president on 9/11. He makes G Bush look like the world's smartest man.
What's a "trumper"? Or a MAGA? I think many americans are neither those things that demorats have made up to create a "other".
Everyday people see the blatant attempt to use the justice system to combat a political opponents. People see Biden is a demented old man. Americans see that a terrible person like Trump is still better than Biden.
The world sees a vulnerable nation run by a weak man who everone knows doesn't do anything he isn't fed or told to do. Hardly a leader.
The American people feel safer with a mentally unstable man that a complete weak Biden. And no one is to blame except the democrats when Trump wins 2024.
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Beerman said:
We could go back and forth trading warm fluffy definitions on liberalism and conservatism, couldn't we?
I'm good with moderates on both sides. I'm actually good with anyone as long as they're respectful. Unfortunately, as we've seen, there are some on the left who spend most of their time disbaraging and discrediting those with differing opinions.
I consider myself a moderate conservative. Most people I deal with in my life are more moderate either left or right. Sometimes when frustrated or fearful for our nation when I'm here, I remind myself I'm often dealing with a vocal extremist or two on the left who aren't representative of most of the nation.
What is this revenge you speak of? Do you have examples of who he has exacted revenge upon?
Why are you complacent and letting Biden be your candidate? I just said in another post that if Trump is as dangerous as you think, why arent you making noise to have Biden replaced by a better candidate? I actually do think this will happen. Almost anyone else woukd have a much better chance beating Trump. But if not and Trump wins, the Trump alarmists will be to blame for not acting.
If the Squad is an embarrassment to the silent moral majority, they should be held accountable to stand up to them.
I think that we should use the same definitions of words.
I find it hard to believe that a political moderate finds it appropriate to vote to a morally and ethically challenged felon who tried to overthrow our last presidential election. How is it moderate to vote for the guy who added a few trillion dollars to our deficit? What is moderate about supporting the fellow who lied so much during his opportunity to show off his amazing style of strong leadership that he was prohibited from posting on most social media outlets?
Why are you thinking that we accept the judgement of a Trump supporter to decide who is or isn't a good candidate? I mean, your judgment has you supporting a felon and rapist who is a fraud and stole money from a charity.
"The Squad" will never be as embarrassing as the MAGA crowd in Congress. When the competition is Boebert and MTG and Gaetz, etc it's going to be hard for you to make that case.
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Not from the party of "victimhood"?. LOL. More like the party of creating victims. Telling black people they are too incompetent to get voter Id and or cannot possible make it in to post secondary education without affirmative action? Or that if they don't vote for Biden they sint black?
The party that cries victimhood of every marginalized group for virtue points but could care less that young black men are being killed in large numbers. Connie these gun crimes don't matter?
The party of creating victims and ignoring actual victims. I think this is more accurate.
No.
You missed the reality that Trump says that he is a victim? Did you forget that he told a crowd on December of 2020 that they were all victims too? Today your political leaders are playing dress up and telling everyone that Trump is a victim of a rigged trial. Next he'll be a repeat victim of another "rigged" election.
I wouldn't necessarily consider you the best judge of what is or isn't accurate in these threads, but thanks for sharing.
You are a Trumper. Moderate Republicans are not. There is nothing moderate about voting for this dangerous wacko. He's way more dangerous than The Squad. I would not feel safe with him. God knows what he would have done if he were president on 9/11. He makes G Bush look like the world's smartest man.
Interesting.
In my mind, what makes someone a moderate, extremist, radical, etc. has more to do with their stance on various issues.
I'm not familiar with these folks but just found this definition. I identify with almost all of it.
I guess it depends I n the definition of a "Trumper". As I've said more than once, he hasn't been my preferred choice either time around. I'd been fine if he dropped out now if it weren't for that it would probably hand Biden the election because the real "Trumpers" wouldn't vote for the new candidate.
I guess it depends I n the definition of a "Trumper". As I've said more than once, he hasn't been my preferred choice either time around. I'd been fine if he dropped out now if it weren't for that it would probably hand Biden the election because the real "Trumpers" wouldn't vote for the new candidate.
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Moderate Republicans are very patriotic and embrace the ideals of personal responsibility and individualism on which our country was built. They are optimistic about the future and determined to preserve the role of the United States as leader in the promotion of free and democratic societies.
Moderates don't support felons or frauds who sexually abuse women and claim that accountability is persecution. They don't support the guy who says that they live in failing country while planning to damage our global alliances. Moderates don't support people who are working to turn free and Democratic societies into authoritarian dictatorships.
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Moderate Republicans believe that banning abortion is a regressive step and outside the proper role of government.
Moderate Republicans don't support the guy who is proud of ending nationally protected reproductive health freedoms.
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Moderate Republicans generally believe that extending rights enjoyed by all Americans to gay-Americans does not threaten our society. This includes the right to marriage, military service, and adoption. They believe that extending these rights to gay-Americans is the right thing to do and enhances liberty in the United States.
Moderates don't support Trump, who promises to roll back Title IX protections for our LGBTQ+ neighbors.
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Moderate Republicans recognize scientific evidence demonstrating that human activity is affecting the world's climate. They welcome a healthy debate on this issue, including impacts, strategy, and responsible resource allocation.
Moderates don't support the candidate that calls climate change a hoax.
Your citation seems to contradict the notion that Moderate Republicans would support a right wing extremist like Trump. Maybe you can explain.
I would say that, in my view, a Trumper is a person who will vote for Trump regardless of Trump's disqualifying character flaws or any moral or ethical failures associated with him. A Trumper might try to project Trump's lies or weaknesses onto other people or suggest that Trump's opponent is too mentally feeble to serve as president rather than deal with Trump's crazy behavior and verbalizations. A Trumper might always look for a reason to disregard and minimize Trump's legal troubles.
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Anyone who uses the NY Post and the Washington Free Beacon as sources is NOT a moderate Republican. Ronald Regan, Gerald Ford, Mitt Romney....none of them would be permitted to be a Republican today.