Oregon equal pay for equal work law has been signed into law in an independent practice state with NP's and PA's getting paid FULL amount from private insurance. This means that a new grad NP's will be paid the same amount as an attending family physician and psychiatrist and also have the same rights and scope of practice as a family physician and psychiatrist.
With the tremendous push for equal pay and for autonomy for PA and NP, is there any reason for medical students to want to go into primary care anymore? I guess my question is, it seems so bizarre that someone would put themselves through hell when they could become a competent provider through the NP route or PA route.
So do you think with these new laws, PA's and NP's will ultimately lead primary care? will these laws drive away medical students from primary care? Is it financially reasonable for a medical student to become a family physician in an equal pay state?
As an sNP, I'm incredibly thrilled and happy at how much progress our profession has made. However, I also understand how some medical students hoping to go into family medicine can feel cheated and grumpy about it. What are ya'll thoughts?
Wow. That's pretty amazing that you are the main preclinical and clinical instructor for MD students. Which medical school do you teach?
I bet you have never seen RNs or MDs or DOs (especially interns) or PharmDs or any other medical profession "do scary stuff"!
I have been involved with the didactic and clinical education of both NPs and MDs for many years, a few years of in-the-trenches practice experience (physician residency, NP collaborative practice) develops a clinical knowledge base that far exceeds any amount of schooling, or RN experience for that matter.
I have been involved with the didactic and clinical education of both NPs and MDs for many years, a few years of in-the-trenches practice experience (physician residency, NP collaborative practice) develops a clinical knowledge base that far exceeds any amount of schooling, or RN experience for that matter.
I was just re-reading an old thread "ADN's being pushed out." In post #460 of August 16, 2013, you said: "I haven't been a bedside RN in three years." On the same thread, in post #248 of May 2013 you mentioned that you were half way through your DNP.
I was just re-reading an old thread "ADN's being pushed out." In post #460 of August 16, 2013, you said: "I haven't been a bedside RN in three years." On the same thread, in post #248 of May 2013 you mentioned that you were half way through your DNP.
I don't understand what your point is? I last worked at the bedside in 2010 when I stared working as an NP. I finished my MSN-DNP in 2014. Would you like a CV?
Wow. That's pretty amazing that you are the main preclinical and clinical instructor for MD students. Which medical school do you teach?
Boston said "involved with," not "main preclinical and clinical instructor." Lots of us in academic medical centers participate in the education of medical students and residents in an ancillary role.
Boston said "involved with," not "main preclinical and clinical instructor." Lots of us in academic medical centers participate in the education of medical students and residents in an ancillary role.
Everyone in the hospital is involved with in one way or the other.
I don't utilize NPs for either myself or my family although I do know a few NPs and a few PAs who I think are excellent. That said I'm extremely picky about the MDs we see also and am thankful I'm in this industry so I have a better chance of sifting out the kitty from the litter.
Do you refuse to see NP/PA or is that just how things have shaken out? Just curious, because I have been called out for not allowing my kid to be seen by a midlevel.
Everyone in the hospital is involved with in one way or the other.
My clinic has 3 medical students per year that spend 60% of their rotation working 1:1 with me. I am a guest lecturer 4 times(12 hours) per year with the medical school.
Do you refuse to see NP/PA or is that just how things have shaken out? Just curious, because I have been called out for not allowing my kid to be seen by a midlevel.
Who called you out? They could suck it. I've had the same PCP for almost 8 years and he's young which I also prefer so hopefully he's not going anywhere soon and I'm probably only 20 years from palliative care anyway. At one point gyno practice lost my MD and attempted to put me in with a PA and I just said I'd wait until a female MD had an opening. For anything out of the ordinary for self or family members I ask colleagues who they recommend and then get in directly with that MD. I have excellent insurance but am of the frame of mind that I'll pay out of pocket if needed. Interestingly enough none of my colleagues I asked for a referral has ever suggested a NP or PA so there's that. Again I do know a couple who are very good but why would I go to someone with 1/2 the education especially since I'm paying the same either way.
I am a guest lecturer 4 times(12 hours) per year with the medical school.
Are you paid to guest lecture? I was asked to lecture at a highbrow SON where apparently people clamour to get the name on their resume but they wanted me to do it for free. I was not impressed and declined which apparently was shocking to the person who asked me.
Are you paid to guest lecture? I was asked to lecture at a highbrow SON where apparently people clamour to get the name on their resume but they wanted me to do it for free. I was not impressed and declined which apparently was shocking to the person who asked me.
Its a ton of work an the pay probably doesn't reflect it, but I wouldn't even consider doing it for free. The med school pays more than the nursing school by about 50%.
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Wow. That's pretty amazing that you are the main preclinical and clinical instructor for MD students. Which medical school do you teach?