El Centro students Spring '06

U.S.A. Texas

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i know some of us have received our letters so i was wondering who else i will be making this journey with for the next 2 years.

my name is allison shaffer and it's nice to meet you. i know we will all be close because it's a small group. it would be nice to get to know some of you before november 17. :)

Specializes in Nephrology.

I really don't know but I don't agree with her ethics and good ethics is the base of every human, in my opinion. She was wrongfully given those points and that just isn't something that settles well with me. There were a lot of people who were honest people who followed the rules who would have been wonderful nurses who were forced to drop and that's the part that makes me sick....something fishy is going on and I'm seriously considering transferring somewhere else.

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I really don't know but I don't agree with her ethics and good ethics is the base of every human, in my opinion. She was wrongfully given those points and that just isn't something that settles well with me. There were a lot of people who were honest people who followed the rules who would have been wonderful nurses who were forced to drop and that's the part that makes me sick....something fishy is going on and I'm seriously considering transferring somewhere else.

That's it Allison.

I don't think ANY of those students should have been forced to drop. Thye should all have been allowed to stay. If they failed at the end of the semester and could not continue without repeating, that would have been proper.

Normally I am not one to go off on a tangent, but these students seriously need to seek legal redress.

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Specializes in Nephrology.
Personally I think the rule is wrong. If the student needs a 78 or 80 average to pass, the student should be allowed the chance to get the average. Even if there is statistically NO chance they can get that %, If they are not disruptive or a danger in clinical, the student should be allowed to stay.

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I definitely agree that the rule is wrong but that's whole idea- it is a rule.

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Specializes in Nephrology.
That's it Allison.

I don't think ANY of those students should have been forced to drop. Thye should all have been allowed to stay. If they failed at the end of the semester and could not continue without repeating, that would have been proper.

Normally I am not one to go off on a tangent, but these students seriously need to seek legal redress.

I normally don't like to get involved in these kind of things but this is just so incredibly WRONG. I don't think anyone should have been forced to drop either. These students who were done wrong deserve some kind of retribution such as getting back full tuition, at the very least.

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I definitely agree that the rule is wrong but that's whole idea- it is a rule.

I agree with the "rule of law", but if a rule is wrong IMO it is good ethics to challenge the rule.

You don't have to be a firebrand, make trouble or be loud to challlenge a rule. Sometimes it's just a matter of speaking up politely.

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Specializes in Nephrology.
I agre with the "rule of law", but if a rule is wrong IMO it is good ethics to challenge the rule.

You don't have to be a firebrand, make trouble or be loud to challlenge a rule. Sometimes it's just a matter of speaking up politely.

Very true. I guess I just feel very sad for those people who lost out on their opportunity to turn their grade completely around. Their whole future was changed and they essentially had no control over it. :o

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Very true. I guess I just feel very sad for those people who lost out on their opportunity to turn their grade completely around. Their whole future was changed and they essentially had no control over it. :o

They have some control. All hope is not lost. They can wait and start the program again or they can challenge the rule.

Am I correct in assuming that this "two test below 68% and your out" rule is a new one of the last semester or two? Since they are saying that they came up with this rule because anyone who scored under 68% would not pass that section of the NCLEX- what about all those EC grad who DID get a test score below 68% and went on to NCLEX success??

Any good lawyer would have a field day with that.

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I just wanted to add that my hat is off to all of you.

El Centro is perhaps one of the most kick butt nursing programs in the nation and you guys got in.

For those of you that are hanging on strong- WAY TO GO!

For those that have difficulties and were forced to drop- I still commend you! Get back on that horse and kick it's A**!

Among the MASSES that applied YOU were CHOOSEN! Of course you can do it!

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Specializes in Nephrology.

One of our classmate's son is a lawyer and he put together a letter that was given to the president of the school to drop that rule. That rule was supposedly in effect a few years ago and just this semester made a reappearance. I do think it might be good to give people a chance not to have a D or F on their transcript but they may be able to turn it around just like this girl is doing...I hope, at the very least, that they see what this girl is doing and see that a grade can turn around even with 2 grades under 70...or close to 70.

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Specializes in Nephrology.
I just wanted to add that my hat is off to all of you.

El Centro is perhaps one of the most kick butt nursing programs in the nation and you guys got in.

For those of you that are hanging on strong- WAY TO GO!

For those that have difficulties and were forced to drop- I still commend you! Get back on that horse and kick it's A**!

Among the MASSES that applied YOU were CHOOSEN! Of course you can do it!

Thank you Sunny. I do think that any and all nursing students at any school are awesome!

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Specializes in Operating Room.

I'm not having to deal with the rule personally, and hopefully never will have to.

However, I will take a stand to say, I do believe people should be given up until the drop date to make a decision. I also believe, that however it is divided up, the hardest tests should be before the drop date.

Luckily, as I have posted before, I have passed all 4 out of 4 exams that we've had so far. Had I not, I would want to make my own mind up, on the very last day to drop with a W.

I can see lalajenn's point, but then again, I can see the point the girl is trying to make by fighting the rule.

It is a no-win situation. I hope they do away with that rule forever. I wonder who is behind it? This is as stupid as the LASSI exam. :uhoh3:

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I think just because I had dropped does not mean I am not fighting the rule. I wish I was given the option like the girl was to stay and fight the rule instead of dropping and trying to fight it.

The person who we are talking about, I had last semester in my clinical. As far as I can see she did a good job. I was not always around her but she was always really good with her patients from what I can see.

El Centro has a lot of issues. There is a teacher who told someone I know that because she is really nervous with check-offs that she should try to find another career. Who is she to tell someone this? She shakes really bad when she has check-offs but when it comes to clinical she did a good job from what I can see last semester when I had her in my clinical.

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