Terminated years ago, go back as travel nurse?

[KrispyRN1]

After graduating college I worked in subacute setting and became bored close to a year. I obtained a position at my "goal" hospital to work at. I was desperate that I let the HR recruiter convince me to take a position on their Bariatrics unit. It was a big change from my previous job and was not necessarily my favorite unit to be working on. My preceptor was quite the micro manager and her anxiety about having to do everything herself made my nursing orientation not a very good. At the end of the three month orientation the nurse Manager decided to let me go. I ended up receiving a job in the ER from a different hospital and it ended up being a blessing in disguise. Now I have 3.5 years of ER experience under my belt. I am now wanting to leave this ER and wanted to take up travel nursing...the ER positions through the travel agencies that I like are with the former hospital I was "terminated" from. My overall goal was to work in their ER and would love to be able to travel there. I assume they won't hire me...but was hopeful because I'm going through a travel agency that maybe it will somehow be overlooked. I obviously doubt that, but I am very hopeful like I said. Opinions?

[Been there,done that, ASN, RN]

All you can do is apply, and let the HR dice roll. Even if you were deemed " do not rehire".. they are not hiring you, they are "renting" you.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

[Cat365]

I'm not sure anyone can answer that. It would depend on if you were put on a do not hire list. Only that Hospital would have the answer.

If you are on a list I'm not sure if they would even let you travel there. Traveling might be a good way to test the waters though. You have nothing to loose by trying.

[KatieMI, BSN, MSN, RN]

If you are "travel" position, you are not hired by the facility you work into. You are employee of your travel agency, and that's their HR who deals with you. The facility's HR has very little to do with it.

Depending on situation, it can be a benefit so huge that it makes up for any inconveniences of travel/agency. They depend on you, and can do pretty much nothing with you, while you can throw a tantrum and walk out of there at the end of any shift, plus convince your agency to drop the place altogether.

Maybe it depends, but I was fired from two hospital systems (yes, NETY), one of them with verified "do not hire" status. I was working in one of them as agency and was "associate" (not employed but had employee's ID, EMR access everywhere, badge, parking permit, etc) in the one where I was supposed to be blackmarked. In both cases, there were absolutely no problems. Later, I easily and with no further problems got provider privileges in both places.

[Crush]

You are not hired by the facility. You are being "loaned" to that facility by the travel agency. I would let your travel agency know what happened with that hospital though just to cover yourself. If it is still an ok to go there, go and do a super job. Maybe if they see how awesome you are , they may allow you to come back as an employee if that is something you want.

But always check with your employer first and make sure all is good.

[NedRN]

It is very unlikely that the hospital put you on a do not use list that staffing will crosscheck against travelers. That said, if your position there is on your work history, they likely will pull your file. It certainly may depend on what the file says, but generally speaking, a failed orientation is also a failure of the facility. Not that that matters, but no harm in being submitted. All they can do is say no, and depending on their need and how glowing your ED reference are, they might say yes.

But if you don't want the possible rejection (who does), why not start somewhere else? You need more agencies anyway if all your current ones have is this one facility. A successful assignment anywhere under your belt means you are more likely to be successful with subsequent facilities as a "seasoned" and proven traveler, including at this facility.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket, and if you want to be a traveler, travel somewhere new! No so incidentally, if you are still local, that also means no tax benefits for being a traveler. You have to work away from home (your tax home) to get tax free housing and other stipends.

[Neats, BSN]

I can tell you if it has been greater than 3 years and it depends on how the situation was... if I can see it was a disagreement, training issue, recurrent tardy, I would question you but would be willing to give you another chance ...If you are deemed non-hirable after 3 years your records maybe in the system but after a period of time (depends on each state) you may find yourself able to work there again. I have hired nurses and NA-C in SNF that were deemed non-hirable some right away after I re hired them some are still there after 10 years.

If your non-hirable offence is stealing, harassment, or patient injury then no I would not re-hire you. I can help you move in a more positive direction for the tardy, training or disagreements with others but once you cross the line into stealing, harassment or patient injury well you will just have to move along.

Things happen in life and people change, If you learned from mistakes then I would allow you the opportunity to show just how much you have learned.

[KrispyRN1]

That's the direction I was going in.

Thank you and I will!

[KrispyRN1]

Thank you and I appreciate your own personal example. We'll see what happens!

[KrispyRN1]

I guess the nursing manager did not see it as a failure of nursing orientation on their part. I was never even warned of not doing well. I personally thought I was doing well despite the over-bearing/ micro-managing. It was actually quite surprising. Hopefully it will all work out. Thank you for your input!

[KrispyRN1]

No, I absolutely did not steal, harass or cause any patient injury. I don't feel there was any disagreement that I was ever aware of. The only thing I could say on their behalf and in my "termination" meeting that was mentioned was a mention of a know it all type of attitude...but I absolutely did not intend a know it all type of attitude. The only thing that I was made aware of was when my preceptor would explain something to me after repeat times..I would say I know instead of saying okay. In my head at the time I thought she would want to know that I knew what she was talking about, meaning I remembered from the previous times she had told me. I guess I thought I should let her what I did know and what I didn't at the time. I now can understand that could be completely annoying, but I wish I was just spoken with. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is and all I can do is learn from it and assess how people may perceive what I'm saying. It stinks that something that was so unintentional can lead to termination, but who said life is fair right?

[CameToSlay]

Wow that sounds like a bunch of B.S. on that manager's part, the reason unions exist. At least you didn't need them in the end. Good luck!