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I am taking a nutrition class over the summer right now and it ended today. I am a guy. I studied really hard to pass the exams and I put a lot of effort into it. And there was this one lady student who failed both her exams. She talked to the instrutor today after the final about making sure she passes! And the instructor did not seem to have a problem with that. I do not think it is fair. I know many people are failing that class because it is an open enrollment, community college. Also, the instrutor who is a man seems to be really nice to the female students. I think they are urging him on to pass the course. About 65% of the grade is on the exams and about 35% is on a paper we have to write. I guess that on writing the paper, those female students will get a 100%. I do not think it is fair to base grades on who the instructor likes and who the instuructor does not like. To be fair, he should have failed that lady who failed both of her exams.

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Sorry. Its not fair. But this happens...I think especially at community colleges too.

You don't pay the teachers enough=they don't feel as obligated to keep up with the moral ethics of being a teacher and part of the education system.

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Tweety has 28 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

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Can you say for sure what this person's final grade is? The instructor might have just been maintaining his profressionalism and it seemed to you he was buying into it, but he just didn't want to make a scene. I'm pretty sure he's wise to the ways of the female who is flunking and trying to get in good with him. At least I would like to think so.

If you think there is some kind of favoritism going on, then you should report him. Otherwise take comfort in the knowledge you yourself earned your grade the old fashioned way.

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Sorry. Its not fair. But this happens...I think especially at community colleges too.

You don't pay the teachers enough=they don't feel as obligated to keep up with the moral ethics of being a teacher and part of the education system.

I'm not sure you can associate moral ethics with pay. You either have ethics or you don't.

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I am taking a nutrition class over the summer right now and it ended today. I am a guy. I studied really hard to pass the exams and I put a lot of effort into it. And there was this one lady student who failed both her exams. She talked to the instrutor today after the final about making sure she passes! And the instructor did not seem to have a problem with that. I do not think it is fair. I know many people are failing that class because it is an open enrollment, community college. Also, the instrutor who is a man seems to be really nice to the female students. I think they are urging him on to pass the course. About 65% of the grade is on the exams and about 35% is on a paper we have to write. I guess that on writing the paper, those female students will get a 100%. I do not think it is fair to base grades on who the instructor likes and who the instuructor does not like. To be fair, he should have failed that lady who failed both of her exams.
Sorry to hear the teacher is playing favorites; I know how you feel. I few years ago I worked at this place that had mostly women managers and they totally favored the male workers. If a guy wanted something he got it, like being moved to a different department or Sundays off. If a women asked for something they were told no and then punished in some form(overtime/restroom duty) for even asking. It really sucked.

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I am taking a nutrition class over the summer right now and it ended today. I am a guy. I know many people are failing that class because it is an open enrollment, community college. Also, the instrutor who is a man seems to be really nice to the female students. I think they are urging him on to pass the course. About 65% of the grade is on the exams and about 35% is on a paper we have to write. I guess that on writing the paper, those female students will get a 100%. I do not think it is fair to base grades on who the instructor likes and who the instuructor does not like. To be fair, he should have failed that lady who failed both of her exams.

Hi Wanna, Just curious why many people are failing the class because it's a Community College? Are you saying it's not a good school? I've also been spending the Summer taking a Nutrition/Diet Therapy Course through a Community College. It's all online (first time I've taken an online course) and so far I'm maintaining an "A". We have to take a quiz with each chapter, participate in discussions through a discussion board (this is graded on), also complete worksheets (part of the grade), take a test after every few chapters and in a few weeks we go to the school for the Final Exam.

If 65% of your grade is based on the exams and you're saying this woman failed both of her exams - even if he does give her a 100 on the paper she wrote, that still wouldn't be enough for her to pass the course - right? Especially in Nursing School where peoples lives will be depending on you someday and (your knowledge of nursing procedures, etc.) why on earth would someone want to cheat their way through? I can't believe that some Instructors would purposely let some students slide - like I said - peoples lives are depending on what we know.

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Hi Wanna, Just curious why many people are failing the class because it's a Community College? Are you saying it's not a good school? I've also been spending the Summer taking a Nutrition/Diet Therapy Course through a Community College. It's all online (first time I've taken an online course) and so far I'm maintaining an "A". We have to take a quiz with each chapter, participate in discussions through a discussion board (this is graded on), also complete worksheets (part of the grade), take a test after every few chapters and in a few weeks we go to the school for the Final Exam.

If 65% of your grade is based on the exams and you're saying this woman failed both of her exams - even if he does give her a 100 on the paper she wrote, that still wouldn't be enough for her to pass the course - right? Especially in Nursing School where peoples lives will be depending on you someday and (your knowledge of nursing procedures, etc.) why on earth would someone want to cheat their way through? I can't believe that some Instructors would purposely let some students slide - like I said - peoples lives are depending on what we know.

I am going to nursing school in the Fall 2004. The school let me take the Nutrition class at a nearby community college so I would not have to take it when I am at nursing school. Community college, some of these students are not suitable for college. I mean, they skip class, sleep in class, do not pay attention in class, don't know what is going on, etc. The instructor knows that.

The instructor is only nice to some students and really rude to others. He is kind of rude to me but I ignore and avoid him. So, that is how I see it. I do not think he should be doing that since grades really depend on exams and quality. Being likeable as a student should not count in terms of grades.

The woman failed both exams. That is like under 60%. Well, I do not know what will happen but she was shaking hands with him and he was really nice to her when grades were discussed. What if a student he did not like, came up to him about passing? Things would be quite different and he would probably would have said, "go away!!"

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RNSuzq1 has 7 years experience as a RN and specializes in Med/Surg..

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Hi Wanna,

Just curious, what State are you in and are all the CC's like this where you are? I can't imagine why someone would take a class just to sleep through it - what a waste of time and money.

I'm also starting Nursing School in a few weeks - at a Community College. The Program is incredibly difficult to get into so I'm assuming all my fellow class-mates will be focused on one thing (learning). Most if not all of my Instructors will be female, so just guessing there won't be any "flirting" going on to get better grades.

You mentioned that you're a guy. My brother went through Nursing School 20 years ago at a time when not many men were going into the field. Sadly, some people automatically assumed that if you were a "male nurse" you were gay, good grief. It was just him and another guy in a class filled with women and he said they got plenty of teasing for being the only males (but he's very VAIN and loved all the attention).. :chuckle He finished school at the top of his class and married a fellow "female" student - so I'd say he had a good time in school. He's been a Trauma Nurse for years now and loves every minute of it and an added plus is that he gets a fantastic salary for what he does that enables him to support his wife and children. It's a great career if you're cut out for it. I wish you the Best... SusanNC

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It happens at private expensive schools also...there's a lot of bull that goes on at schools like Beth Israel School of nursing in NY where i go to...if i had to vent I'd write 5 pages that would make people's eye pop out :)

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lil' girl has 4 years experience as a LPN and specializes in LTC.

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I'm not sure you can associate moral ethics with pay. You either have ethics or you don't.

Ditto

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it goes on at our school also....we take our co-reqs through a major university....chem is one of them, and there are always people who dont pass...however, our admissions officer(who also works with the students) isnt above calling our chem instructor and asking him to give the nursing students who are doing well in nursing but not making it in chem, to pass them(we need a C to pass)....she's done it for the last two years or so, but this year, the chem instructor failed a bunch, and she couldnt get a hold of him to beg for the grades to be changed....I barely squeaked by with the C I needed, truthfully, I'm not even sure I earned it......but we were told that as long as we talked to him and left him know how serious we were about nursing(his wife is an RN) that he would pass us....I think it worked for some, but not for others...two failed cause from what I heard they got caught cheating......i think it happens more than we think.....

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it goes on at our school also....we take our co-reqs through a major university....chem is one of them, and there are always people who dont pass...however, our admissions officer(who also works with the students) isnt above calling our chem instructor and asking him to give the nursing students who are doing well in nursing but not making it in chem, to pass them(we need a c to pass)....she's done it for the last two years or so, but this year, the chem instructor failed a bunch, and she couldnt get a hold of him to beg for the grades to be changed....i barely squeaked by with the c i needed, truthfully, i'm not even sure i earned it......but we were told that as long as we talked to him and left him know how serious we were about nursing(his wife is an rn) that he would pass us....i think it worked for some, but not for others...two failed cause from what i heard they got caught cheating......i think it happens more than we think.....

oh my yes! not that i have experience of it, but there are best seller books which talk about the epidemic of cheating in this country. very sad.

nursefirst

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