I think I'm done answering student nurse help me threads here.
I've gotten rude answers, or they never even bother coming back to the thread to acknowledge the answers they received.
Some will ask life choice questions like "Where should I move?" or "Where should I apply?". Do they think someone is going to offer them a job here, is that why they start these threads? You have the whole internet to research towns, cities, regions, but instead you post a thread asking a bunch of strangers where you should move?
Some help me threads seem to be 'Help me do my homework' threads.
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No one said they would make a new grad go look up protocols during a code,RRT, or crashing patient. If your facility has a good orientation program and a good preceptor then you would know these protocols by the end of your orientation when you are by yourself. And if you don't know what to do during an emergent situation then maybe you shouldn't be in that area. My orientation was 16weeks for ICU level 1 trauma center. I did my homework every night. I learned policies,drips,procedures, you name it. That is the time you have a nurse with you to guide you. If after 16 weeks you don't know the max titrating limits of drugs and policies then you don't belong in ICU. Nurses in general are not going to sit back and allow a patient to crash just to prove a point of go look it up yourself.
I did the same when I went to the ED, and I sure didn't get 16 wk., though, to be fair, it wasn't a Level 1 trauma ED. I used to carry around a clipboard that had index cards with "brains," like how to set up and titrate ntg and other important info.
I believe it discriminates against Crusty Dead Bats. You may be able to get in under an in memoriam type of membership though. Sorry to crush your DREEEEEEEAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM
aw shoot, well, I think you have to be a premium member to have a sig line anyway,
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but I is sho 'nough old enough....not as crusty as some.....
Sigh....then comes the "I don't like your answers, you all stink, this forum stinks, ya'll are jealous and rude. And soul sucking. So goodbye I am outta here".......
This is my all-time favorite AN move.
You know they're not really leaving. They're too wrapped up in it by the time they get to the point that they're threatening us with their absence (boo hoo). So even if they do block us or call us names before making a dramatic exit, you can bet your sweet bippy they'll be back. And that's the part I live for...
...because when they do come back, I'll still be right here...
What about the constant ADN versus BSN debates on the prenursing board?
I think they are just confused and want to make the best choice for themselves. However, I don't think asking people online which way to go should greatly influence their decision. They need to think about it themselves and not ask others "which route should I go?" Am I you? No. Then I don't know the answer to that question.
No one said they would make a new grad go look up protocols during a code,RRT, or crashing patient. If your facility has a good orientation program and a good preceptor then you would know these protocols by the end of your orientation when you are by yourself. And if you don't know what to do during an emergent situation then maybe you shouldn't be in that area. My orientation was 16weeks for ICU level 1 trauma center. I did my homework every night. I learned policies,drips,procedures, you name it. That is the time you have a nurse with you to guide you. If after 16 weeks you don't know the max titrating limits of drugs and policies then you don't belong in ICU. Nurses in general are not going to sit back and allow a patient to crash just to prove a point of go look it up yourself.
To clarify, my orientation period was 12-weeks long. I work in a 1:6 Medical Inpatient unit. I do 3x 12-hour shifts a week. I also rotated through three different preceptors. Case in point: 12-weeks is not nearly enough time to look up every single protocol/procedure and commit it to memory when you're taking 1/2 of the patient load of your preceptor and you don't see every single patient condition you'll ever encounter walking through the door.
My point is that if someone, just barely off orientation, tells you a patient is going south and requests help as they're not familiar with a rather large order set that comes in, it would seem to me that, as the resource nurse, someone should assist, ESPECIALLY if they don't have a patient assignment.
I think they are just confused and want to make the best choice for themselves. However, I don't think asking people online which way to go should greatly influence their decision. They need to think about it themselves and not ask others "which route should I go?" Am I you? No. Then I don't know the answer to that question.
But being armed with that information from someone who might have a good insight never hurts so that said person can make an informed decision.
On a completely different post I have been told that I am a example of horizontal workplace violence simply because I called the OP out on the numerous amount of BS. The OP does nothing but post negative comments about every instructor,professor, etc. that they come in contact with. Multiply years of posts only 90 comments but all the same. I have yet to see a "bully" in AN let alone work. Nor have I seen horizontal workplace violence in threads. When did the world become so sensitive to everything?
Whoever came up with the term "horizontal violence" to describe catty passive-aggression should be smacked. How's that for "violence?"
Really? I'd be a better nurse if, a patient were crashing, I looked up a protocol rather than having the charge/resource nurse assist me? Interesting. It appears to me that if I took the 10-15 minutes to research and interpret a protocol ON MY OWN AS A NEW NURSE, I'd run the risk of having that patient turn far more critical in that period of time than learn ANYTHING. But, y'know, since the older nurses seem to think us new graduates need to be spoon fed, having a patient go south quickly would be better than just getting off of their rear ends and providing help in order to save said patient from experiencing far more negative outcomes. How logical.
Tell you what: you go look it up while we "get off our rear ends" and take care of the patient. Then you get your education the honest and proper way and the patient gets taken care of.
(I loooooove people who act like older nurses just sit on their rear ends. Really.)
You know what? YOU WORK ON AN ACUTE CARE FLOOR? YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THE PROTOCOL. There shouldn't be a patient crashing while you look up a protocol because YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY READ YOUR P&P'S. It's just like school. Commit them to memory. I'm sorry this apparently isn't working out for you, really.
Tell you what: you go look it up while we "get off our rear ends" and take care of the patient. Then you get your education the honest and proper way and the patient gets taken care of.
(I loooooove people who act like older nurses just sit on their rear ends. Really.)
You know what? YOU WORK ON AN ACUTE CARE FLOOR? YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THE PROTOCOL. There shouldn't be a patient crashing while you look up a protocol because YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY READ YOUR P&P'S. It's just like school. Commit them to memory. I'm sorry this apparently isn't working out for you, really.
Clearly, you think orientation is a time where the new nurse sits at the desk and commits protocols to memory. Sadly, not the case. I have witnessed older nurses have to look protocols up themselves because they either a) don't remember because they don't see it often and/or b) never knew it by memory to begin with.
You know they're not really leaving. They're too wrapped up in it by the time they get to the point that they're threatening us with their absence (boo hoo). So even if they do block us or call us names before making a dramatic exit, you can bet your sweet bippy they'll be back. And that's the part I live for...
...because when they do come back, I'll still be right here...
I looked up one of them to see how long it took them to come back. Four months. To be honest I was impressed!
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I did the same when I went to the ED, and I sure didn't get 16 wk., though, to be fair, it wasn't a Level 1 trauma ED. I used to carry around a clipboard that had index cards with "brains," like how to set up and titrate ntg and other important info.