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Now that I have completed my BSN, and all the other course work to start the CRNA program, I'm having second thoughts. The concern I have is letting the staff nurses care for my patients. Their level of knowledge is, in most cases low. As a staff nurse, I did many inservices. It seems like retention is a problem for many nurses, not all, but many. Laziness is another problem. It seems that the nurses find it more important to sit in the lounge, than care for the patients. It also seems that most, not all, of the nursing staff don't have to listen to management. These nurses know that they won't be fired due to the shortage of nurses.

I'm concerned about my patients. In the future, if I go the MSN route, I will have to turn my patients over to "third world care".

Have any of you all thought about this, how do you see it?

SCB

Where do you work at???

I work at a wonderful hospital. We have some of the most intelligent--hard working nurses at our facility.

Maybe she should try medicine, no make that surgery and then she could really fit in as an arrogant, pompus jerk. As a matter of fact, that was one most condescending post I have ever read on this forum. Do us all a favor and get out of nursing.

Originally posted by chartleypj

Susan,

I'm curious as to why you may think that an RN; a staff nurse as you call him/her who does not have a BSN doesn't have the level of knowledge you posess, nor are they capable of rendering care to patients that meet your expectations?;

How can you generalize by saying we would rather sit in the lounge than care for patients, are lazy and have trouble with retention?

I could work circles around you.

BTW, I have just begun an RN to BSN program not because it will make me a smarter, more qualified staff nurse, but because I want to FOR ME.

You may very well struggle as a CRNA in an OR where teamwork is an integrel part of perioperative care.

Paula

:kiss I never said anything about level of knowledge and the BSN, you did.

I did not say "all" nurses sit in the lounge, but many do.

Many nurses can't think beyond following doctors orders, but they did study A&P, pharm, and disease processes. What did they do, hit the eject button after they landed their first job, or better yet, passed the test with a C-.

You don't know if you could work circles around me, you don't even know me.

Teamwork is far from my problem, but it does seem to be a problem with most staff nurses. This is one reason for the shortage of nurses, and safety issues in patient care.

The patients who die due to medical error - whose fault is it, the doctors, the nurses?

Originally posted by MICU RN

Maybe she should try medicine, no make that surgery and then she could really fit in as an arrogant, pompus jerk. As a matter of fact, that was one most condescending post I have ever read on this forum. Do us all a favor and get out of nursing.

Are you saying that docs are arrogant, pompus jerks? Gee, I have to wonder why they are this way. Are the docs nasty to the nurses, do they disrespect them?

Q: Why does a dog lick his butt?

A: Because he can.

Q: Why does a doctor disrespect a nurse?

A: Because he can.

Mabe law is a better fit for me. I could help push laws that hold nurses responsible for the harm thay do to patients.

#1 Patient goes into hospital for liver bx.

#2 Doctor orders Tylenol for pain.

#3 Nurse gives Tylenol.

#4 Patient go into coma.

Did the nurse give th wrong drug? could be.

Did the patient have a bad liver, and Tylenol is never given to patients with bad livers? could be

Everyone wants know why the doctor ordered Tylenol. Frankly, I would like to know why the nurse gave it. I know, the nurse was just following doctors orders.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Long Term Care.
Originally posted by SCB

I did not say "all" nurses sit in the lounge, but many do.

Many nurses can't think beyond following doctors orders, but they did study A&P, pharm, and disease processes. What did they do, hit the eject button after they landed their first job, or better yet, passed the test with a C-.

Teamwork is far from my problem, but it does seem to be a problem with most staff nurses. This is one reason for the shortage of nurses, and safety issues in patient care.

You make a lot of generalizations. How many hospitals have you worked in that you can say this about "most staff nurses" having a problem with teamwork and that "many" nurses sit in the lounge? Or that "many nurses" can't think beyond following doctor's orders". Granted, I've only had 3 jobs in the last 10 years, one in LTC for 9 months and the others in hospitals, but I have rarely seen or experienced what you describe. If that's what's happening in your hospital, I'm sorry for you and hope I never work there, but I hope you'll take the comments that people have posted here to heart, because something isn't right-- with your heart.

Ohhhhhh brother...this should be interesting :/

Using SCB's sense of logic and reasoning, we can conclude the following:

1. "nurses find it more important to sit in the lounge, than care for the patients"

2. SCB is a nurse

3. Thus, SCB finds it more important to sit in the lounge, than care for patients

ummmm...well....ummm...what is happening?

I hereby nominate this thread as "the dumbest thread in the history of the internet."

Specializes in Med-Surg, Wound Care.

"Mabe law is a better fit for me"

Somehow I couldn't help thinking how appropriate this new career choice would be for you.!!!! Just what the world needs another arrogant lawyer!

Specializes in Med-Surg, Long Term Care.
Originally posted by gotosleep

ummmm...well....ummm...what is happening?

I hereby nominate this thread as "the dumbest thread in the history of the internet."

:rotfl:

I am concerned about the patients in the hospital. The care is not good, and there is much neglect, and many errors. It's not due to a shortage of nursing staff, because the ratio is 4-5 to 1 RN. Many of the nurses do sit in the lounge most of their shift. Families are up set, and so are the patients who are not getting the care they should. Neglect and errors is not something that happens with a caring educated nursing staff. Nurses who take pride in their work also thke pride in themselves, and there is nothing wrong with that.

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