Published Feb 5, 2015
nette_mj
16 Posts
Hi everyone,internationally educated from the Philippines just passed NCLEX-RN, What are the requirements to get a social security number for non citizens in the US?
TheAverageMan
106 Posts
If youre here already and came with legal papers ot a green card, just go to the SS office and show your I-94 paper. If you took the exam in Manila and have never been to the US or have some form of immigration petition, then I dont think you can get one.
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
You need a valid work/immigrant visa allowing you to live and work in the US to obtain a US SSN, unless you are a USC. You apply once in the US and they will check the data base to make sure you are legally in the country with a work/immigrant visa before issuing one? Suggest doing a search for US SSN in google where there are lots of clear information from the US government explaining how to get one.
PinayUSA
505 Posts
You can get a ITIN if not eligible for a SSN
"An ITIN is a nine-digit number issued by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to individuals who are required for U.S. tax purposes to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have and are not eligible to get a social security number (SSN)."
Good Luck.....
JustBeachyNurse, LPN
13,957 Posts
If you are seeking employment a SSN is necessary. Once you achieve a visa sponsorship and its current you can obtain a SSN. The social security administration explains the procedure online. SSA verifies electronically with ICE that you are eligible for a SSN. Employers are mandated to use everify to ensure that the SSN you provide is yours, valid and eligible for employment.
The only non-citizens eligible for a SSN are those with a green card/permanent residency and those with a valid non-immigrant or immigrant work visa (such as EB3 visa)
From the SSA how BoN-citizens obtain a SSN:
Learn what documents you need to get a Social Security Card
An ITIN is not valid for work or a professional license its only valid for paying taxes.
steppybay
1,882 Posts
As JustBeachyNurse commented, the ITIN numbers will not be accepted as a form of legal presentation to allow one to work legally in any of the 50 states, it's merely a IRS issued number that allows one to file their income taxes and can either get a refund or may still owe taxes to the IRS and due to a worker that is not eligible to get the working authorized SSN.
The ITIN does not allow for any sort of social security benefits or voting privileges and no employment rights whatsoever.
ITIN = no employment benefits
SSN (those that are valid for employment) = can legally work in the States
There are ONLY three (3) types of SSN...click to this link here: https://allnurses.com/international-nursing/the-three-types-968565.html
In more regards to the ITIN numbers and straight from the SSA website:
Taxes: If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the United States, you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS in person or call the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request Form W-7 (Application for IRS Individual Taxpayer Identification Number).
If you are assigned a number for non-work purposes, you cannot use it to work. If you use it to work, we will inform DHS.
Thank you for all the information everyone :-)
States still will issue RN License with no SSN. You can supply a ITIN or simply a letter of explanation will suffice.
State of Illinois is a prime example
elkpark
14,633 Posts
States still will issue RN License with no SSN. You can supply a ITIN or simply a letter of explanation will suffice.State of Illinois is a prime example
It is now Federal law that states cannot issue any kind of professional/occupational license (not just nursing licenses) to anyone without a valid SSN. Some states are taking longer to come into compliance with the law than others. There are still some states that are issuing licenses without an SSN, but that may change at any time; it's not something you can count on.
Federal Law means very little in USA, Looks good on paper that is about it. Look at things such as Illegal Immigration, it is Federal Law but most all states allow it, and offer sanctuary cities for Illegals.
I am 100% for not allowing any type of Professional, Occupational, Driver License until one has obtained a valid Social Security Number, not one that is purchased illegally on the street.
I think California just passed a bill to give Driver Licenses to Illegal Aliens.
I think most states now and in the future will allow an "Affidavit" stating they are unable to obtain a SSN, in lieu of a SSN, when pushed by the applicant...
Federal Law means very little in USA, Looks good on paper that is about it. Look at things such as Illegal Immigration, it is Federal Law but most all states allow it, and offer sanctuary cities for Illegals.I am 100% for not allowing any type of Professional, Occupational, Driver License until one has obtained a valid Social Security Number, not one that is purchased illegally on the street. I think California just passed a bill to give Driver Licenses to Illegal Aliens.I think most states now and in the future will allow an "Affidavit" stating they are unable to obtain a SSN, in lieu of a SSN, when pushed by the applicant...
With regards to the "driver licenses" comment, it's only to be given the privilege to drive a vehicle and does not give any sort of benefits to being able to use it for employment or voting purposes.
There are 10 other states that allow undocumented people to be allowed to carry a valid driver's license. These states hope to encourage unlicensed drivers to pass the driver's license test and obtain car insurance and to better the already unlicensed driver to understand the rules and regulations of that state's particular laws.
It started in 1993 with WA, then, years later, UT (2005), VT, NM (2003), NV, MD, DC, IL (2013), CT, CO and with CA just added this year (2015).
But to stay within the original OP's concerns, the driver license does not allow for any benefits to being able to gain employment rights.