i have a "hypothetical" situation and i would like to get advice or feedback.
i have a friend who moved to another state and is a nurse. well here back in the "home" state i found out that her nursing license was suspended due to diversion ( not of narcotics, but one for a prescribed med and the other two were otc) and for falsifying work notes as well.
well she now lives in state b and has a current license in good standing. the two states are not part of a compact agreement.
should this be reported to state b or should i just let nature run its course and not say a word?
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
i have difficulty believing how many nurses are so anxious to report someone for something. hundreds of threads decrying lateral violence, bullying, backstabbing and throwing each other under the bus -- which none of the posters, of course, does -- and yet all these responses advocating reporting someone for something that may or may not have already come to the attention of the licensing board in state b. mind your own business, folks. and stop complaining about bullying, backstabbing and bus-throwing as long as you're advocating all of this reporting someone nonsense.
Nurses have a duty to report things like this, regardless of how many states away she is. What I'm not hearing (except for one person) is our job as patient advocate. What if nurse B hurts someone? I know I would feel a bit responsible for that if I didn't say anything.
Also....just because something is done all the time does not make it right. If you wonder why nurses are having a hard time earning a positive image in healthcare.....just read these responses! WOW!!
Be the change you want to see in the world.......Ghandi
there's a difference between advocating for a pt and being vindictive. I get the icky feeling in my stomach that says you are the latter.
i have difficulty believing how many nurses are so anxious to report someone for something. hundreds of threads decrying lateral violence, bullying, backstabbing and throwing each other under the bus -- which none of the posters, of course, does -- and yet all these responses advocating reporting someone for something that may or may not have already come to the attention of the licensing board in state b. mind your own business, folks. and stop complaining about bullying, backstabbing and bus-throwing as long as you're advocating all of this reporting someone nonsense.
What the heck? I have NEVER given another patient someone else's drug. Are you telling me that you give people's medications to other patients? You have GOT to be kidding me. I am not a wet-behind-the-ears nurse, I have 3+ years experience and work in a critical unit pushing meds all the time and I have NEVER done this and to be frank, I have never heard of another nurse doing this.
I guess I *will* have to babysit all the nurses that might take care of my parents in the future if that's the norm among nurses. For pete's sake...
Newsflash: For all your righteous indignation, you sound pretty wet-behind-the-ears to me. 3 years, lol. Talk to me in 20.
Yes, the abhorrent practice of problem solving is rife among nurses. I can't believe this is a) news to you or b) surprising in the least.
You seriously need a hobby my friend. This is totally OTT. I have never looked up a single person, myself included. I know I haven't been reprimanded, and I really don't give a sheet if someone else has. What is that piece of knowledge good for, besides malicious gossip?
I wasn't expecting to find that any one had been reprimanded- especially since we are new grads for the most part. I've actually had friends tell me to look them up, just because they are excited to be there! I'm usually too tired for other hobbies, I guess.
What the heck? I have NEVER given another patient someone else's drug. Are you telling me that you give people's medications to other patients? You have GOT to be kidding me. I am not a wet-behind-the-ears nurse, I have 3+ years experience and work in a critical unit pushing meds all the time and I have NEVER done this and to be frank, I have never heard of another nurse doing this.
I guess I *will* have to babysit all the nurses that might take care of my parents in the future if that's the norm among nurses. For pete's sake...
I have never had to borrow meds from another patient either, but I work in Emergency and we pull meds from a Pyxis.
However, I have heard about the practice in LTC facilities where each resident has a supply of their prescribed meds.
What if your parents were in an LTC facility, and their prescriptions were unable to be filled for whatever reason, for 24 hours or more?
What if your parent was hypertensive, but their clonidine script hadn't been filled yet? What if Mr. Smith down the hall had a month's worth of clonidine? Would you rather the nurse let your parent sit for who knows how long and stroke out because you don't think the nurse should "borrow" a clonidine from Mr. Smith's supply (and pay it back when your parent's supply comes in)?
What if your parent were in pain, and their Percocet script hadn't been filled yet, but Mr. Smith had a month's supply of Percocet? Would you rather have your parent sit there in agony than have the nurse *gasp* borrow a Percocet from Mr. Smith's supply and pay it back when your parent's Percocet comes in?
I know it's not the ideal, and it's not a practice that is encouraged, but sometimes taking care of your patients requires some creative problem solving.
Look, it's okay to disagree. You are allowed your opinion, as am I. I was pointing out in fewer words that I don't think any further discussion would be productive because folks seem to be as passionate as I am about the subject.
I really don't think at this point that I would be able to convince you to change your mind, nor you mine, so why bother? I think we both have better things to do than to beat dead horse...
edit: If I came off as abrasive, I apologize. It's hard to hold frustration in sometimes...
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
Newsflash: For all your righteous indignation, you sound pretty wet-behind-the-ears to me. 3 years, lol. Talk to me in 20.
Yes, the abhorrent practice of problem solving is rife among nurses. I can't believe this is a) news to you or b) surprising in the least.
Especially since the new NCLEX makes nurses "think critically," as opposed to the old NCLEX, when everyone got 1,000 questions and tested over two days. (Just in case you missed that comment from a newer nurse.)
I think I've looked up almost everybody that I work with or went to school with. It's not that I'm out to "get" anyone, I just think it's kind of awesome that we're all there. I've looked myself up more than a few times, too.
I did look myself up almost everyday for a week after I passed the NCLEX, was too excited about the whole thing and wished I could show it to people. That excitement has long since fizzled out...
Ruby Vee, BSN
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i have difficulty believing how many nurses are so anxious to report someone for something. hundreds of threads decrying lateral violence, bullying, backstabbing and throwing each other under the bus -- which none of the posters, of course, does -- and yet all these responses advocating reporting someone for something that may or may not have already come to the attention of the licensing board in state b. mind your own business, folks. and stop complaining about bullying, backstabbing and bus-throwing as long as you're advocating all of this reporting someone nonsense.