Googlenurse, ASN, BSN, RN 144 Posts Specializes in Home Health,Peds. Has 19 years experience. Jan 14 I'm DO not buy for one bit that there is a shortage of RN's. Hospitals are doing this because it's cheaper for them than to pay RN's adequate wages. I don't mind Lpn's at all, but why don't hospitals consider hiring ADN RN's? In my area, RN's with a diploma or ADN are still not considered for hospital/ acute care employment.
FiremedicMike, RN, EMT-P 375 Posts Specializes in ED RN, Firefighter/Paramedic. Jan 15 Googlenurse said: I'm DO not buy for one bit that there is a shortage of RN's. Hospitals are doing this because it's cheaper for them than to pay RN's adequate wages. I don't mind Lpn's at all, but why don't hospitals consider hiring ADN RN's? In my area, RN's with a diploma or ADN are still not considered for hospital/ acute care employment. I've looked at the RN to BSN curriculum I'm about to start. I've talked to my friends who have recently finished their BSN. I've read the countless threads on here. BSN adds literally nothing to day to day clinical practice. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
Career Columnist / Author Nurse Beth, MSN 168 Articles; 2,988 Posts Specializes in Tele, ICU, Staff Development. Has 30 years experience. Jan 15 FiremedicMike said: I've looked at the RN to BSN curriculum I'm about to start. I've talked to my friends who have recently finished their BSN. I've read the countless threads on here. BSN adds literally nothing to day to day clinical practice. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. When I got my BSN, it opened my mind. I really loved the process. It helped me to be a better thinker. I'm all in favor of higher education.
FiremedicMike, RN, EMT-P 375 Posts Specializes in ED RN, Firefighter/Paramedic. Jan 15 Nurse Beth said: When I got my BSN, it opened my mind. I really loved the process. It helped me to be a better thinker. I'm all in favor of higher education. I love higher learning. My BSN will be my second bachelors and I will probably get a masters as well. That said, you will never see me on these forums or in real life insisting that a BSN nurse provides better care than an ADN nurse.
payitforward 104 Posts Specializes in Med/surg,orthopedics,emergency room,. Jan 15 " Even though technically I was senior to them" therein lies the problem. Most of what I have read isn't really welcoming . Guess you all Forgot that Lpn/LVNS must study, sit boards and do clinicals. You
FiremedicMike, RN, EMT-P 375 Posts Specializes in ED RN, Firefighter/Paramedic. Jan 15 payitforward said: " Even though technically I was senior to them" therein lies the problem. Most of what I have read isn't really welcoming . Guess you all Forgot that Lpn/LVNS must study, sit boards and do clinicals. You Friendly observation from my side of the world. Our best LPNs put their scrubs on, tie their shoes, and dive right into the crap-show with the rest of us, doing everything they are allowed to do, so that patients are taken care of and moved through the system. The worst ones in our department have a huge chip on their shoulder are constantly mouthing off that they get treated like lower class citizens because they are LPNs, that they only get asked to do menial tasks because they are LPNs, that they're nothing more than glorified techs because.. you get it. Out of everyone in the department, they are the ones who are the most aggressive at avoiding tasks that they feel are beneath them. The good ones are respected, trusted, and treated like the colleagues they are. The bad ones are universally known to be lazy and annoying. Don't be the letters after your name.
payitforward 104 Posts Specializes in Med/surg,orthopedics,emergency room,. Jan 16 Thank you, which is the point I'm trying to address.
Googlenurse, ASN, BSN, RN 144 Posts Specializes in Home Health,Peds. Has 19 years experience. Jan 16 payitforward said: " Even though technically I was senior to them" therein lies the problem. Most of what I have read isn't really welcoming . Guess you all Forgot that Lpn/LVNS must study, sit boards and do clinicals. You Question: Do you consider yourself senior to a CNA? What about an MD? I see NP as my seniors. They are also have a broader scope than I do. I'm just not seeing the problem.
ThePrincessBride, MSN, RN, NP 1 Article; 2,592 Posts Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU. Has 8 years experience. Jan 18 RIght before I became an NP, my hospital was talking about bringing back LPNs because RNs refused to work in such terrible conditions. I am probably going to get chewed out, but I would rather the hospitals focus on improving the problem (nurse/patient ratios, pay, poor management, violent/disrespectful patients, ridiculous JCAHO) so that more RNs will return to the bedside than force the RNs that are at the hospital to supervise LPNs. The minute management started saying we would have an LPN for 10 patients was the minute I realized I made the right decision to leave bedside.